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Anybody know how to build motorcycle safety wheels?

I want to build some "training" wheels or safety wheels for my motorcycle.  Arthritis is giving my left knee and hip some trouble and I worry about tipping or stopping. I have an idea to build a set of wheels that will allow me to stop without fighting to stay up.  Being five foot two does not help anyway.
Mainly, I am looking for some input.  I have a concept, all the tools I need, and the material is easy to access.  The pre-made sets are way over  my budget...but I am a handy old broad and can do it.  If you have plans or some ideas, let me know! Summer is coming soon and I want to get out on the road the first pretty day.
THX-

Hello Eccentric57,

You question brought to my mind the Sidewinder mini-sidecar.
In the UK these were made to circumnavigate the need to pass the bike bike riding test.
They were a  tiny token sidecar to get around the law; they apparently don't affect the handling so much but it does mean that the bike stands up on its own.

Kind Regards

FOH

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Presumably though, the sidewinder only protects you falling over towards the car, not the other way, because it isn't heavy enough ?
Hey Steveastrouk,

I thought about that but Eccentric only needs support when she is stationary; that support is only needed on her arthritic left side and the side car should help. 


The trouble is, I've just realised that the USA people drive on the wrong side of the road. . . so I'm not sure if a left sidecar would be legal.

Anyhoo, here is one on ebay for £34 so far.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sidewinder-Sidecar-in-very-good-condition-/200905269904?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec6e32290
Ironic that the only contributors to this thread are ALL UK based, so far.

Surely its not beyond the wit of man to mod it to go on the wrong side of the road ?
eccentric57 (author)  steveastrouk1 year ago
All my UK men are always more gallant! Kisses to all-eccentric57
eccentric57 (author)  FriendOfHumanity1 year ago
The side of the road is nothing to me....but those pesky boys with the badges don't seem to share my devil may care attitude! Drove the tiniest bit of a car in Scotland last year and did pretty good...i figure the only wrong side of the road is the one without a shoe store....eccentric57
eccentric57 (author)  FriendOfHumanity1 year ago
I had never seen one of these before...might be worth a try...thx!-eccentric57
I bought one of those back in the early 80's for a Honda CX500c, I used it to carry my tool chest around for work.
It didn't support the machine at all, in fact you could lean with it but only to around 45 degrees which could sometimes be a bit of a hazard & occasionally produced some rather disconcerting creaks if you pushed it down a bit too far; you still needed the bike stand as it wouldn't support the weight of a stationary bike, for that you would need a proper rigid frame sidecar.
It was a crazy way of getting around the law & the company that made them didn't really seem to care that they were enabling people to ride bikes way out of their realm of experience, I had been riding for years & only used it occasionally but I knew a guy in Great Yarmouth who had one on a Kawasaki GPz900 at 17 after spending a year on a power restricted 50cc Yamaha FS1E utter madness!
I would go for either a proper sidecar or a trike.
That seems strange. What purpose would it serve if it can't hold the weight of the bike? Purely cosmetic?
At that time under UK law you could ride any size motorcycle at all as a learner as long as it had a sidecar, the sidewinder ticked all the boxes to qualify as a sidecar.
It was mounted on the side of the vehicle, It was capable of carrying a load albeit a relatively light one compared to a person & was within the required dimensions of overall width etc
Long story short it had the benefit of a rigid sidecar inasmuch as it was a way for people to legally ride a far larger machine than they would otherwise have been able to, less of the restriction on manoeuvrability & almost none of the weight, also the there was no way it would cause any of the frame damage that the weight a traditional rigid sidecar can.
It could also be added to & removed from the bike in a matter of minutes, meaning that for someone like me who only wanted something to carry large loads occasionally it was ideal, at around £120.00 it was way cheaper than a trailer & when I wasn't using it I could hang it on the garage wall out of the way.
From a cosmetic point of view if you wanted an ugly lump hanging off the side of your bike it would have been easier to cable tie a giant cabbage patch doll to it.
Dear Nostalgig Guy,

Good call; In that case the sidewinder would be useless.
In the photo it seems to support the bike, but the stand must be down.

Thanks

FOH
Kiteman1 year ago
Trainer wheels create the risk of your drive wheel being lifted off the road surface, which is fine for a toddler on a bicycle, but dangerous for a motorbike.

Plus, they would look like trainer wheels, and attract unwanted comments from fellow bikers.

Your best bet is to add a proper sidecare, because it would give you the stability you want, with the added ability of carrying an extra passenger or cargo (such as your weekly shopping).
eccentric57 (author)  Kiteman1 year ago
Not a bad idea at all! The side care would mean I did not have to strap a back pack on to do my bit of shopping either...hmm...you make me think...eccetric57
why not get a trike.
If you put 2 extra wheels on a bike it becomes a car according to the Great State of Texas.
eccentric57 (author)  thematthatter1 year ago
LMBO! That is funny hatter! I have a really nice bike and may go the trike route...if I don't work out the bugs in my idea, I might have to but I am sure not giving up the road-
eccentric57
Best line in the question " I am a handy old broad and can do it". Wish there were more ladies like you around. Anyways, I think, as some others have stated, A side car may be the safest, sturdiest, most proven method to help you out.

Though my opinion may not be the one you want to hear and may be wrong in some eyes, nothing replaces the skill it takes to do a full stop and a launch from standing still. I hope you are able to find a way that is safe and works for you.
eccentric57 (author)  cerberustugowar1 year ago
Thanks so much for the worry. I can come to the stop, but every once in awhile the old knee tells me to get buggered. I have been riding for over 40 years and can't give it up...but I am going to figure it out!

Take care!-eccentric57
rickharris1 year ago
Stick a side car on it.

I would think stabilisers would be dangerous at any speed.
OK, post up your concept for us to look at. You don't fancy a trike then ?