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Best way to have internet in "shop" in backyard?

My shop is in my back yard about a 100 ft from my house. I'm going to be renting a trencher and running direct burial wires out there for power (they wont be in conduit). I plan to run water, cable and phone lines out there as well. I had done this for a previous building that I had out there that unfortunately was lost due to a fire (neighbor had been burning leaves and thought he had put the fire out completely, but sometime during the night, the leaves had apparently been still smoldering underneath and reignited and I woke up to the sound of an explosion, which was my gas cans for my mowers out there, and the building and all my tools and hobbies etc., not to mention my truck which was parked out there, all lost in the fire) Anyway, I have a bunch of cable I could run from my router in the house, but I was curious if anyone knew if I should put it in conduit, and also, if there might be a problem with "interference" from the electric cables, and if there might be a problem with the distance. I guess another option would be to go wireless, but I'm concerned about the distance and quality. If any wireless suggestions I would appreciate it. Thanks for any answers.

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bwrussell2 years ago

Go with a conduit or else burrowing creatures will chew the lines and you'll be fine with a bog-standard CAT5 line for internet.

iceng bwrussell2 years ago

Are you reading my PC ? :)

bwrussell iceng2 years ago

If you mean personal computer then my answer is probably not, don't worry about it, just carry on, why do you ask?

If you mean previous comment then no, 90% of the time I'm posting comments at work so tabs can sit open with half written comments or unread for hours. I don't bother refreshing because, well I can't really be bothered and confirmation from multiple sources never killed anyone.

iceng bwrussell2 years ago

nO I WAs humorously accusing you of a bug inside my machine because we randomly both spoke of "burrowing creatures" ,"CAT-5", "conduit"

Rare odds that . . !

bwrussell iceng2 years ago

Well here at the NSA we're not supposed to.... I've said too much.

That is pretty unlikely to both use burrowing though.

lmao

For future proofing and ease, make sure there is extra room for more cables and maybe have a piece of line running through it as well so it's easier to pull new cables.

iceng2 years ago

Use the grey electrical PVC conduit. keeps the burrowing creatures from eating that tasty insulation !

No problem with the CAT-5 or CAT-6 because of twisted pairs. Phone lines however may or may not be twisted. Several sources are reporting phone lines in contact with power and no-hum. The recommendation is 10" separation.

When I ran power to my shop, I added extra CAT-5 cables and coax (yea long ago)

but no hum at all on the phone lines and no measurable DC leakage for 35 years.

Vyger2 years ago

Your concerns are valid. First, there is a distance limit on Ethernet cable length but you are well under it. Generally they say not to go to much over 1000 feet. There is an outdoor Ethernet cable that has more shielding and is more resistant to noise and environmental conditions. It has a thicker covering. However I don't think you need it. I am actually doing something similar but it is an old mobile home that was given to me that I am hooking up. I am running a phone line, Ethernet line and multiple CCTV cables to it. (TV cameras that are mounted to the outside). I have a large diameter black plastic pipe that I am using for a conduit. It is usually used for things like underground sprinkler systems. It's pretty inexpensive and gives all the wires protection from physical damage and from water. You can buy it in 100 foot spools. I buried it only about 1/2 foot which is plenty to keep it from being hit by a lawnmower or something else. Run the electric line separate. Use an outdoor rated cable. It has sunlight resistant covering and is also designed for underground use. It has much better insulation on it. But it sounds like you already know that. Try and keep some distance between it and your other wires. Maybe bury it a foot deeper than the rest. I would make a map of where the cables are located just in case someone else has to know about it in the future. Put it on the wall next to where the cables come in. Using the pipe to run the small wires also gives you the possibility of pulling another cable through it if you need to replace one or add to what you have. I ran a nylon construction string with my lines so I have something running the length that has the strength to pull other things through. One concern that I have with mine is it possible being used by mice as a way of travel. I plan on stuffing the ends with steel wool which does prevent them from getting into things. The steel fibers cut their mouth if they try to chew on it so they usually leave it alone.