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I want coal!

i'm a blacksmith in training and i need some coal, i want some, i don't need it but it would help a ton. my father keeps saying that i can get 1000 lbs of coal for $100 but so far, it's all 50 lb bags for $20 on http://www.centaurforge.com, some 12 lbs for $20 on some remote website somewhere someplace in some far recess of the pixelated world of the internet!!!  ... i don't mind paying $200 for 1000 lbs, or even a bit more but the problem is, is that i'm in Florida right now. so, i don't know how to get coal cheaper than a buck a pound. right now i'm using lump charcoal and it works fine. but coal gets the metal a bit hotter. so what do i do.

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CharlieC491 year ago

coal for ale in FL @ The Barberville Pioneer Settlement $35 for 100# see web site for details

rickharris4 years ago
I was under the impression Blacksmiths use coke rather than smoky coal??

i'm not quite sure but i do believe coke is used coal. i'll look it up...oh!!! it's just coal that's gone through the charing process! look at the comment above where i explain what charcoal is and how it's made.
Coke os coal that has been bakes in an oven with restricted air flow. this removes the tars and volatile chemicals in the coal leaving behind a spongy carbon mass which heats up quickly and burns at a high temperature with minimum smoke and fumes.

I well understand what charcoal is but Coke is a different form of coal and will get hotter and leave less residue.

ALL of the blacksmithing I have witnessed has used coke or charcoal mostly coke. It's fairly common in the UK.

Kiteman has a reference re different fuels.

Quote from Kitemans link

"Coal, more specifically bituminous coal, is a soft coal and one of the most abundant types of coals that is mined in the world. Unlike charcoal, coal does not need to be made and is ready to burn as soon as it is mined out of the ground. Coal, like charcoal, produces up to approximately 15,500 BTUs. However, the advantage of coal over charcoal is that pound for pound, it takes less coal to fire your forge and produce your ironwork. When choosing coal for blacksmithing, be sure that you buy coal that has the least amount of impurities you can find. Never buy coal with a high level of sulfur because it is not good for steel which makes it more brittle. The disadvantage of coal is that it does produce soot and smoke which can be hazardous for your health.

Coke is made from coal. Coke is produced when all the impurities in coal, such as oils, gases and liquids, have been burned off. When using coal, it is the coke that is directly used to heat up the iron and not the coal. You can buy ready made coke but its really not necessary since coke is produced when burning coal. It is also harder to start a forge fire with coke compared to coal. The advantage of using ready made coke is that you will not have the fumes, soot and smoke associated with burning coal into coke."
i knew most of that, but you still gave me some new info so thanks for commenting! i appreciate it!
+1
Kiteman iceng4 years ago
http://blacksmithsupplies.net/blacksmith-supplies/blacksmith-supplies-choosing-your-forge-fuel

Different smiths use different fuels for different reasons.
kelseymh4 years ago
Did you type "buy coal in florida" into Google? Here are the first two hits:
http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/10270-where-to-get-coal-in-florida/
http://www.coalcarbonconsulting.com/

And the fifth hit:
http://www.fholder.com/Blacksmithing/coal.htm
yes. but i looked and i found to my dismay i really can't get coal down here cheap. so i might as well settle for charcoal.
Ah. One of those links implied that they were priced below what you quoted, but that was several years ago.

Sorry :-(
thanks anyway! as long as you tried.
canucksgirl4 years ago
This Blacksmithing website lists coal suppliers by state/province and shows one for Florida. They just don't list any prices, so you'd have to contact the Florida company to see how much they charge... 

http://www.fholder.com/Blacksmithing/coal.htm
i looked it up and i can't open the page, or it can't be found. i dislike these computer thingys.
Ya... it looks like the Blacksmithing website went down *sigh*
but I did find the company name that was listed there and their phone number...

Southeastern Coal
Williston, Florida
Call Al Pendray after 7:00 PM
TEL: (904) 528-6124

I hope that helps you. :-)
Also... AFAIK, experienced Blacksmiths don't recommend using charcoal. It apparently does not get as hot and will be a disappointment... (just so you know).
yeah. i did know, that's why i was looking.
thanks!i shall try it out, and keep being helpful, its very...helpful? anyway, thanks again.
mrmerino4 years ago
i think if you put some wood in your furnace, you can get charcoal, which you can use just fine.
no, i've made charcoal and it's a 3-5 hour process at least. you have to suck all the air and moisture out of the wood without burning it. to do so you take, for example; a 55 galleon drum and a 30 galleon drum. you put some wood in the bottom of the 55, the put the 30 in right in the middle. then you stack wood all around the 30, then then you fill the thirty with the wood that you want to be your charcoal, seal the top and poke a small hole in the top. when the wood around the 30 lights up, the air with be pushed out with the carbon monoxide that comes from the wood, after 3-5 hours all the air should be gone replaced with carbon dioxide! and you have charcoal!!! use this info wisely young one... do not turn to the dark side! other than blacksmithing that is.