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Is this site a scam or is it good?

The site  is: http://horizonnashville.com/

I just wanted to know because i sent them a song and they sent me some information and a contract. The email says:


Congratulations! We are impressed with your song lyrics (BLANK) and I’m happy to tell you that we have accepted them to be
set to music and Professionally Recorded!

We have many credentials and accomplishments and we hope to add your song
to our list. With sales, radio air-play, television, motion pictures and
live performances a prolific songwriter can easily earn in excess of One
Million Dollars!

Please open and read the attached letter and contract. Our contract is for
your benefit. It protects you as 100% owner of your words and provides
that you receive all money that they may earn, in addition to, our "Cash
Bonuses"!

I look forward to a rewarding relationship.

Respectfully,
Ronnie James
President, Horizon Music
(615) 417-1945
www.horizonnashville.com


The contract says: 

                                                                                    SONG RECORDING CONTRACT
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Date: May 25, 2011
Songwriter: Vincent Dolliole

I would like for Horizon Music to produce a professional recording of my song listed below:
(Blank)
                                                              
                                                                                     Horizon Music agrees:

1. To compose music for the Songwriter’s words and produce a professional song recording using five
Nashville musicians and one Nashville singer.
2. To provide the Songwriter with two compact disc copies of the completed song within approximately
three weeks from the date that their contribution is received in full for that song.
3. To submit the song to music industry professionals as Horizon Music deems appropriate.
4. To ensure that the songwriter is paid 100% of all money that may be earned by their words from
sales, radio airplay, television, motion pictures, live performances and to pay $80,000.00 Cash Bonus
for each song that reaches the Number One position and $20,000.00 Cash Bonus for each song that
reaches the Top Ten position in the internationally recognized Billboard Magazine Chart.
5. To edit the Songwriter’s words only for phrasing and commercial time allotment and to protect them from
plagiarism to the best of our ability.
                                                                    Songwriter agrees:

1. To make a one-time contribution of $369.00 for the song listed above to be professionally recorded.
2. To make a partial payment of $_______________________ (minimum $123.00) and send the balance in
payments that are convenient for my budget. I understand that I may use a personal check, money order or use
my charge card below.
3. Please charge my: Name on Credit Card: ____________________________ Amount $_________________
Card Number: _______________________________________________ Expiration date: _______________
Check song style preference: ____ Country ____ Pop ____ Christian ____ Rhythm & Blues ____ Rock
Print, sign and mail one copy of this contract with your contribution to:
Horizon Music, P.O. Box 292006, Nashville, TN, 37229
If you do not have a printer, e-mail us your regular address and we will send you copies by regular mail.
_____________________________________ _________________________________
Songwriter’s Signature

Ronnie James, President




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orksecurity5 years ago
This looks like a _CLASSIC_ scam, to be perfectly honest -- a complete swindle which is actually legal.

Note that "as Horizon Music deems appropriate" leaves them free to deem it inappropriate and do nothing at all.

Note that there's no guarantee of quality of anything they do for you. They're perfectly free to set your words to the same awful tune that they've used for the last 297 suckers, send you a CD of an unrehearsed run-through recorded in Fred's bathroom by a group of incompetents, and walk away $365 richer. (Heck, they could even use the same backing tracks they used for all those other suckers; there's nothing there which promises _new_ music will be composed, so all they really have to re-record is a new vocal track with your lyrics.)

Note that even if they make this absolute minimum effort, they'll have delivered what they promised so you'll have no recourse.


Nobody respectable goes randomly trolling the net for song lyrics -- or, if they do stumble across something and are impressed enough to want to do something with it, they'll send you something more than a form-letter come-on.

Do not walk away from this offer. RUN away.
Elena243 years ago
Pls guys cam some one tell me is this a scam? I am having this contract with me now but i don't know what to do cos there are alots of scamers in internet... Who knows what is writtin in the contract are they all true or atlist 50% true or a CLASSIC scam?
$380 can easily get you a decent guitar and a 4-track recorder, why not record your music all by yours?

I agree. From all it says on the submission page, they make you think that you're sending in lyrics to be considered by recording artists, who may or may not offer to buy your lyrics if they like them (as not all singers write their own). I had no idea they just wanted you to pay them to make a demo. Like I can make my own rough demo but I still don't know what to do with it once I've recorded it.

Vyger5 years ago
This might be a fun one for Dateline with Chris Hansen.

At the very least tear it up and walk away.

If you want to get more involved report it to the authorities.

If you want to live on the edge write up an invoice for your time and consulting services and send it to them. Who knows maybe they would pay you.

LOL true.

Is this the same for ALL websites that you can send lyrics to? I sent one to Sun Music Group. Does anyone know anything about this? I'm not going to send them money or pay them anything, I'm not stupid--I just thought that this one looked kind of legitimate and thought I'd give it a try and see if it was a total waste of time or not. I don't know because I've never submitted anything before--are all these websites scams or are there any real ones?

duna12 months ago
duna1 duna12 months ago

come on people if they you're good they'll offer you money!

DevonD65 months ago

i got the same thing but mine says sun music group and it an recording contract and i'm not sure either and also it got it but from a different company Suns Music Group

Sun Music Group
SONG RECORDING CONTRACT
Contract Date: January 9, 2016
This agreement is made between Sun Music Group and the Author, (My name), with respect to the
Author’s song lyric entitled: LAUGH NOW, CRY LATER

Sun Music Group agrees:


1. To compose a melody for the song lyric and produce a recording using Five Professional Nashville Studio
Musicians and a Professional Singer.

2. To send the Author the completed song recording attached to an e-mail as an mp3 file within two weeks of
receiving their payment in full and to mail the Author a CD copy if they send us their mailing address.

3. To submit the song to a singer or their representative. Should the song be selected by a singer, Sun Music
Group will assist the Author with all licenses and contracts to facilitate the use of the song in all areas of the
music and entertainment industry free of charge.
4. To ensure that the Author receives 100% of the writer’s royalty that is earned by the song and, in addition, to
pay the Author $80,000.00 in Cash should the song reach the #1 position and $20,000.00 in Cash should the
song reach the Top Ten position in the internationally recognized Billboard Chart.
Author agrees:

1. To remit to Sun Music Group the sum of $429.00 in full or to send three payments of $143.00. I may send a
check or money order payable to Sun Music Group or fill in my charge card information below.
Credit or Debit card number: ______________________________________________________________________
Card expiration date: __________________________ Amount to be charged: $ ___________________________

2. To allow Sun Music Group to edit the words only for phrasing and to enhance the songs marketability.
3. I may send my song to singers, record producers and music publishers at my discretion.
4. The music industry is unpredictable and Sun Music Group cannot guarantee the success of the song or
financial gain for the Author.
Check song style preference: ___ Country ___ Pop ___ Christian ___Blues ___ Rock ___ R&B
Print, fill in and attach this contract to an e-mail as a document or, mail one copy with your payment to:
Sun Music Group, P.O. Box 292006, Nashville, TN, 37229.
________________________________________

________________________________________
Author’s Signature

Ronnie James, President, Sun Music Group

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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A Tradition of Fine Music for Over Forty Years

SONG RECORDING INFORMATION

We are a song recording company who provide Professional Recordings to writers who do not have access to Nashville singers, musicians, producers and recording studios. We also record songs for Singers, Music Publishers and Record Producers. We have been in business since 1972. Our credentials are many. Our writers have written “Hit” songs for Tim McGraw, George Jones, Carrie Underwood, George Strait and more than 100 other artists, in fact, we are currently receiving radio airplay in more than twenty countries. Our staff musicians play with some of the biggest names in the music industry.

We must first compose music for your words so that you have a complete song. Words alone are not accepted by Singers, Record Labels and Music Publishers. We will write music to compliment your words giving them the best chance to become a Money Making Song. Once we have completed your song with music we will record a Professional “Demo” Recording. The “Demo” Recording is how all Professional Songwriters deliver their songs to Singers, Record Labels and Music Publishers. A Professional Recording is absolutely essential to present your song to Music Industry Professionals.

If you were to lease a Recording Studio with the Sound Engineer and hire a Professional Singer and Five Professional Nashville Studio Musicians you would easily pay $1,925.00 for a three hour recording session. Having our own recording studio and staff musicians we are able to record your song at a tremendous discount and we pass this savings on to you. All we ask of you is a one-time contribution to help defray the many recording studio and administration expenses that we are confronted with in bringing this opportunity to you.

The attached contract protects you as 100% owner of your song and provides that you will be paid 100% of all money that your song may earn you as the writer, in addition to, our "Cash Bonus". Simply fill in and attach the contract to an e-mail or mail it to us in the regular mail. If you do not have a printer send us a mailing address in an e-mail and we will mail you the contract.

If you choose to make monthly payments, we will send you a receipt for each payment that we receive. When your contribution is received in full we will take your song into the recording studio. We will send your finished song to you attached to an e-mail as an mp3 file and if you send us your mailing address in an e-mail we will mail you a CD copy.

We will deliver your completed song to a singer who has immediate plans for recording a new song or album. Should your song be chosen by a singer, we will assist you with all licensing and contracts to facilitate the use of your song in all areas of the music and entertainment industry Free Of Charge. As 100% owner of your song you should “pitch” your song yourself to recording artists and music publishers.

Of course, the nature of the music business is unpredictable and no one can accurately predict the success of a song but we can safely say that a #1 Hit song can earn the Songwriter a Million Dollars. Dolly Parton’s Hit song I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU has earned her 23 Million Dollars.

It is our policy that if you are not completely satisfied with your recording, we will re-record your song at no additional cost to you.

Feel free to call me with any questions. (615) 838-5646.

Respectfully,

Ronnie James

President, Sun Music Group

We record Country, Pop, Rock & Roll, Blues, Rhythm & Blues and Gospel/Christian styles of music!

and it not in this order but i got it from a song place i enter

DevonD65 months ago

i got the same thing but mine says sun music group and it an recording contract and i'm not sure either and also it got

[image pic]

A Tradition of Fine Music for Over Forty Years

SONG RECORDING INFORMATION

We are a song recording company who provide Professional Recordings to writers who do not have access to Nashville singers, musicians, producers and recording studios. We also record songs for Singers, Music Publishers and Record Producers. We have been in business since 1972. Our credentials are many. Our writers have written “Hit” songs for Tim McGraw, George Jones, Carrie Underwood, George Strait and more than 100 other artists, in fact, we are currently receiving radio airplay in more than twenty countries. Our staff musicians play with some of the biggest names in the music industry.

We must first compose music for your words so that you have a complete song. Words alone are not accepted by Singers, Record Labels and Music Publishers. We will write music to compliment your words giving them the best chance to become a Money Making Song. Once we have completed your song with music we will record a Professional “Demo” Recording. The “Demo” Recording is how all Professional Songwriters deliver their songs to Singers, Record Labels and Music Publishers. A Professional Recording is absolutely essential to present your song to Music Industry Professionals.

If you were to lease a Recording Studio with the Sound Engineer and hire a Professional Singer and Five Professional Nashville Studio Musicians you would easily pay $1,925.00 for a three hour recording session. Having our own recording studio and staff musicians we are able to record your song at a tremendous discount and we pass this savings on to you. All we ask of you is a one-time contribution to help defray the many recording studio and administration expenses that we are confronted with in bringing this opportunity to you.

The attached contract protects you as 100% owner of your song and provides that you will be paid 100% of all money that your song may earn you as the writer, in addition to, our "Cash Bonus". Simply fill in and attach the contract to an e-mail or mail it to us in the regular mail. If you do not have a printer send us a mailing address in an e-mail and we will mail you the contract.

If you choose to make monthly payments, we will send you a receipt for each payment that we receive. When your contribution is received in full we will take your song into the recording studio. We will send your finished song to you attached to an e-mail as an mp3 file and if you send us your mailing address in an e-mail we will mail you a CD copy.

We will deliver your completed song to a singer who has immediate plans for recording a new song or album. Should your song be chosen by a singer, we will assist you with all licensing and contracts to facilitate the use of your song in all areas of the music and entertainment industry Free Of Charge. As 100% owner of your song you should “pitch” your song yourself to recording artists and music publishers.

Of course, the nature of the music business is unpredictable and no one can accurately predict the success of a song but we can safely say that a #1 Hit song can earn the Songwriter a Million Dollars. Dolly Parton’s Hit song I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU has earned her 23 Million Dollars.

It is our policy that if you are not completely satisfied with your recording, we will re-record your song at no additional cost to you.

Feel free to call me with any questions. (615) 838-5646.

Respectfully,

Ronnie James

President, Sun Music Group

We record Country, Pop, Rock & Roll, Blues, Rhythm & Blues and Gospel/Christian styles of music!

is it real or fake?

plz help

Jaydabe3 years ago
I'm a professional songwriter that's has worked with various labels. It is actually a pretty good deal. As a nonestablished songwriter, it is pretty pricey to jump start a serious career. It's very helpful if you yourself could sing and produce songs. In most cases its unlikely. In order to get an artist (especially mainstream) to record one of your songs, you're looking at a few hundred dollars upfront whether the song is unsuccessful or not. On average, I'd say for a hit recording, you're looking at 600-1200. Depends on how studio time they soak up also. The artist has to get paid, the producer, the engineer, musicians, and the light bill. I spoke to Ronnie James and he is very legit. He also throws in promotion and believe it or not. He's well respected in the music industry. If you want to start a serious songwriting career, want to build up a portfolio, this is a good start. Wish I would've done this earlier.
a2194 years ago
I had horizon music do two demos, which made tears come pouring when i heard the emotions and talents that were put into my song made my song just beautiful. I totally thought it was worth my money and now they are going to send my songs to 500 radio ststions.
Vyger5 years ago
This is from a forum I found through Google.

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|Apr 26, 2011

Beware, I submited a song and paid the money up front (dumb) because there was no problem with Horizon according to the Chamber of Commerce. The contract said Horizon would hire five studio musicians plus a singer, put music to the lyrics and submit the demo to recording artists. What they did was use band in a box and sent me two cd's, pretty expensive cd's and I have not heard a word since. How do you say SCAM.
kelseymh5 years ago
The fact that they are asking you for payment up front smells like a scam. Did you try checking either the Federal Trade Commission or State of Tennessee Office of Consumer Affairs Web sites, to see if this company is already listed as a scam?
frollard5 years ago
Fact of the matter is whether its legit or not can't be proven without more information. What does the contract say?

Even if you do get selected for distribution to a mega-star and they make hundreds of millions, you'll make peanuts on the song, thats how it works.