Question about three card brag in the film Lock,Stock & Two Smoking Barrels.?

 In the film Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, the  game comes down to two players; Hatchet Harry And Eddie, ( If you've seen the film please skip to the end for the question)

Eddie does not have enough to continue.
The croupier says- We'll have to see your cards if no one lends you the money.

Hatchet offers to lend him the money.
Eddie says- No, I think I'd rather turn 'em over.
Hatchet-We don't have to turn 'em over because you can borrow....you need five hundred grand to see me.
 Eddie-  That' s if I wanna see you.
Hatchet- Your gonna have a problem carrying on, ain't ya?
Eddie- I'll see you.


I've never played this game  so my question is;  
Is it in the rules that if you run out of money in this position in a game, that you have to carry on if someone offers to lend you the money; or was Hatchet  insisting that Eddie take the loan through intimidation alone?


Thank you...you toerags.


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caarntedd7 years ago
Turning his cards over is the same as throwing his hand in. If you run out of money you can't go on and have to turn your cards over. To remain in the game Eddie must pay to raise or pay to see Hatchet's cards. Hatchet offers the loan because he is sure he will win, then he will have the pot and Eddie will owe him the price of the loan (with high interest no doubt).
Eddie wanting to show how much he dislikes Hatchet says he would rather turn them over than borrow money, but then takes the loan anyway as he thinks he will win, giving the appearance that he isn't cheating (which they both were from memory).
So to answer the question (I think) you don't have to continue if you are offered a loan, Hatchet was trying to give the appearance that he was a good sport and was not cheating and that Eddie still had a chance.
Hope this helps you toerag.
FriendOfHumanity (author)  caarntedd7 years ago
 Thanks for the reply...you have answered my question with "You do not have to continue if you are offered a loan."

Just to refresh your memory.......
Eddie was bluffing and bust; Hatchet knew this.
So , Eddie couldn't win whatever happened  and he obviously also knew this.

He took the loan ,as you say,  but not because he was obligated by the rules.
My only conclusion is that he had to because of Harry's insistence which always puzzled me because so much was at stake.

Thanks once again...you toilet.
orksecurity7 years ago
Uhm... websearch the game name and/or the movie name. If you find an answer, you'll have an answer. If you don't, assume the game was made up for the purposes of the film.

(Might have tried a search on your behalf, but not with your final phrase.)
FriendOfHumanity (author)  orksecurity7 years ago
 I did research the game before using this site and it does exist but I could not find the answer to that particular question; I was hoping to find an instructables player who knew.

I hope that you were not seriously put out by my parting phrase... it was of course from the film.... so chill, Winston.

kind regards and sincere best wishes

FOH
lemonie7 years ago
In these betting games you end up having to put money in to call a conclusion on the round.
Eddie is saying "I don't want to borrow money to pay to see your cards, I'll just show mine".
No one has to take a loan, but if they did their loss (and someone else's gain may be greater) - you can read intimidation into this if you want, you saw the film. But bear in mind that bluffing and intimidation can blur into each another.

L