What is the best all purpose knex assault rifle?

I know that a lot of you will suggest the storm 223, however I really dislike the instructions. Any other suggestions will be appreciated! Thank you.

Comments

[dansdoc]

definatly the one on best knex weapons 2009

[Owenmon]

KILLERK's TR-18 w/ slide. It's the best rifle I've ever made.

[matsermetsuiker]

totaly agreed!

[Jesus.]

I agree, best gun eva!

[Owenmon]

Heh. Now I like the ZKAR follow up better. I also extended the mag to hold 21 rounds.

[heat-seeker]

br-18 for use

[Kinetic]

I will agree with them-the Z35, but I am working on a gun that might top that one-heres a few pics so far. Also-the T.B.A.R by Killer-Safe-Cracker is also a good all-purpose gun because it can be used as sling gun for range, as well as an assault rifle.

[travw]

Here's my comparison on Z35 vs. BR18. 100 ft. range > 40 ft. range Piece efficient > Piece consuming Light > Cumbersome Oodammo > Blue rods 100% reliable > ~85% reliable BR18 > Z35 So, winners, in order: BR18 BR18 BR18 BR18 BR18 BR18 My choice: Uuuuh......... Z35. Sorry for being so rude about it, but I'm tired of people saying Z35.

[Kinetic]

The br18 is the obvious winner if you want a gun for wars, but when you say all-purpose, people take it that you mean how many features it has. In that case, it is the z35.

[travw]

Eh, ok. Maybe that's my bad for the way I put it. But I really meant: What do you guys use as a primary, and why?

[Kinetic]

Ya in that case it would be the br-for me anyways.

[knexsuperbuilderfreak]

Z35

[Hiyadudez]

Oblivitus' Z35

[The Jamalam]

Z35 by oblivitus.

[TigerNod]

Oh, the OSNJCKMA2 is very good too, even though I mentioned that before on another topic.

[TigerNod]

If you don't need the semi of fully auto mechs and stuff, I would go for this one: http://www.instructables.com/id/knex-assault-rifle-the-g36c/ . Otherwise, that thing the Dunkis was talking about sounds be fine for you. There is also my SPARCCS gun which is not posted yet but looks really cool. However it uses many pieces and does not have a mag (yet). Oh, and you can mod nearly all guns with a mag to shoot yellows or blues. But anything that shoots a rod that is bigger then blue will drastically decrease the power of the gun.

[TigerNod]

Correction: Anything larger the white will increase the range, not decrease it.

[travw]

Do you know the range? Is it sturdy? The handle looks TEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNYYYY!!!!!!! Looks like it also uses a lot of pieces... If it is sturdy+has good range I'll build it.

[TigerNod]

I am glad to know you like it. The range is 23 meters, or 75.5 feet. Not the best of all, but still quite impressive. It is very sturdy, yes, it is almost like, indestructible. I will improve the handle someday. It uses a ton of pieces, you could mod it but it won't be so sturdy anymore.

[The Creatornator]

75.5 ft is a lot for a blue rod firing ramrod gun.

[TigerNod]

For a blue rod repeater: yes. For a sniper: no.

[The Creatornator]

i agree.

[Der Bradly]

Knexsayer. Zak gun.

[travw]

Well, I actually decided on my BRv1 that I just built... I wouldn't build the 'sayer because it is a little too complex to be used in a knex war, (in my opinion.) and the same goes for Zak's assault rifle.

[DJ Radio]

I would prefer the knexsayer, it is stronger and sturdier. I would also use zakgun, or AR-4 v3. BTW, sorry it didnt work, but it all falls squarely on the builder not building it right.

[travw]

How would you know the Knexsayer is sturdier? There's no way you could build it! It is stronger in some places, but it is much heavier, therefore more stress is put on more places...
Also, I actually use my BR18, not BRv1.

[DJ Radio]

I think its sturdier because some parts are 1 yellow rod thick. The handle seems to be the weakest part, and its pretty decent.

[travw]

Keyword: SOME parts. But that also makes it heavier, therefore putting more stress on other places. Like I just said!
=p

[DJ Radio]

I dont care about weight, except if it weighs more than 10 pounds. The BRv1 is a bit light and the stock is too short for it to feel comfy and natural for me. Anyways, I modded the AR-4 v3 all yesterday and today. Its better than ever.

[travw]

Ok, don't wanna argue about the sturdiness (and/ or lack thereof...) of the Knexsayer. What'd you do to your AR-4 v3?

[DJ Radio]

Fair do's. I made a stock extention, modded the area around the trigger, modded the bottom of the barrel, Made a new bipod holder, replaced mag, improved scope, and the area around the barrel is better.

[travw]

Sounds good, post?

[DJ Radio]

Its not enough for a separate instructable.

[travw]

You could add on to the original instructable...

[DJ Radio]

guess so..

[DJ Radio]

AR-4 v3 or zakgun. Build em now.

[travw]

I have built the AR-4v3, and was bitterly disappointed. It jammed quite a bit due to the tan clip connectors, and the power was horrible. I got about 12 feet for range. It was good as a concept idea, but I would never use it in a war.

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, just my observations. And yes, I did build it correctly.

[DJ Radio]

I dunno, Use decapitated connectors instead of tan clips. I got around 35 feet with one band. Also, Im gonna rebuild and make a modded version.

[Fred the Penguin]

just wait til you see my bolt action rifle it makes the ar-4v3 green with envy, it looks awsome has wicked power (i was shooting it though this plastic storage case i have with its standard ammo today) and hardly ever jams

[DJ Radio]

hehe, Im gonna mod my AR-4 v3, that way it can kick your rifle's butt.

[Fred the Penguin]

my rifle is probably one of the most powerful firing pin guns ever made, when tested against a killerk pistol with the same number of number 64's and using yellow rods I got more power, range and accuracy from my gun

[DJ Radio]

Video please.

[Fred the Penguin]

on the video I have made I show some of the damage I have done to various things in my bedroom

[travw]

What does it fire? Is it TRUE-bolt-action?

[Fred the Penguin]

yellow rods. and it is a true bolt action, you pull back the bolt then push it foward then you fire

[travw]

Cool. Is the bolt realistic? Or is it more like the one on the AR by djradio?

[Fred the Penguin]

it doesnt swivel but it isnt slide

[DJ Radio]

HA! I win.

[Fred the Penguin]

how yours is slide and i have a swivle mod on it now but its really only for looks and realism

[DJ Radio]

What exactly do you mean by swivel? Also, slide is easier to pull back.

[Fred the Penguin]

It hooks onto the bolt and you have to lift it up to pull the bolt back I dont really like it because it can just get in the way

[DJ Radio]

that just seems like a hindrance when you operate the gun.

[Fred the Penguin]

exactly thats what I said. Its only real purpose is to shut up the people who say "its not true bolt action because it doesnt twist". I really dont like it it gets in the way and I will be posting the gun without it

[DJ Radio]

Good. Personally, I think it can be done, but its a reliability issue.

[Fred the Penguin]

look at my forum topic new pics are up

[DJ Radio]

not true bolt action at all.

[Fred the Penguin]

thats the fsastr... did you even read the information?

[DJ Radio]

just link me. Your descriptions are too confusing.

[Fred the Penguin]

how? its a pin action assault rifle. in the pictures it shows the magazine, two different configurations and the "grenade" launcher

[DJ Radio]

What I meant was that I thought you were not talking about yor fsatr or whatever, but a different gun. Anyways, just the fact that it lacks a bolt disproves most of your claims.

[Fred the Penguin]

the gun shown in the pictures is part II of project firestorm I am talking about part III here the fssr

[dynno97]

Ummmm depends, do you want a rod shooting one? Or an RBG? And do you want it to be Fully Auto? Or Semi Auto?

[travw]

Well this has sorta been answered. I decided on one of the following (depending on situation.) : Rectangle, ZKAR², BR18 (With some of my mods.)
=p

[geodez]

br-18 or KDTG or TR-V1 or BR-36 (not reccommended) because a COMPLETELY non-jamming magazine, looks cool, shoot far, and is very strong.

[The Jamalam]

What don't you like about the instructions?

[The Creatornator]

The new 221

[travw]

I think that you show really big chunks and don't describe them very well... ^{Just my opinion, and that was positive feedback so don't hate me.}

[chopstx]

i know this is late, but i agree.

[TheDunkis]

What must it have to be considered an assault rifle? While my UMP is more SMG styled it is still a good assault weapon. If you want something with a larger caliber then I would wait for Zak to post his new AR on KI. It'll repeat but have the power of a single shot.

[travw]

Ok this is going to be long... I am looking for: Shoots blue or yellow rods (I could make exceptions), at least 50 ft. range, I don't care about how many pieces, a magazine with at least 10 rounds, and preferably good looks.

[Fred the Penguin]

Sounds like my Kobra assault rife it uses a hopper of yellow rods bout 15 or so

[TheDunkis]

Sounds like Zak's weapon will be perfect for you...well other than that it's rather blocky in looks. However looks are something that you could easily modify yourself.

[travw]

Ok, as I said "PREFERABLY good looks". I really don't care that much about looks... You said that would be on Knexinnovations.net right?

[TheDunkis]

Yup. He just posted it I believe.

[TigerNod]

Could you give us the link?

[travw]

Oh yeah! I just saw it and I'm strongly considering it. (By the way, I thought it looked pretty cool.)