What resistor (or do I need one)?

I'm designing a simple prop that requires 2 LEDs. I figure a 2AA batteries connected to a switch that splits into 2 resistors and then into 2 LEDs then back to the batteries. See diagram below. The LEDs should take 20mA at 1.9-2.0V. So what resistor should I put in between the switch and LEDs.

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JM19992 years ago

I am completely not used to electronics like this, can someone please enlighten me as to why you even need resistors?

iceng JM19992 years ago

Sure, the author has a 20ma 2v LED which is the same as the yellow LED curve below and the 100 ohm Resistor straight line !

If you raise the voltage to 3v the Resistor current will increase to 30ma while the LED current may Exceed 100ma and destroy the LED.

And the 3 volt supply with a 56 ohm resistor draws only 20ma....

Does that make you en lightened ?

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JM1999 iceng2 years ago

So it basically keeps the voltage at a level that the LED can handle?

iceng JM19992 years ago

It keeps the current at a level the LED likes.

LEDs are diodes and small voltage changes cause Huge changes in current. It is current that can overheat the diode junction and destroy the LED..

Someone asked if one could really control that voltage would it work too ?

NO because a small room temperature change will push the LED into another part of that curve that could help or hurt it !

LEDs Are Current Devices..

JM1999 iceng2 years ago

Wow, so complex!

Thanks for explaining this, I will look further into making something with LEDs before I start! (I don't have resistors)

iceng JM19992 years ago

PM me with your address and let me send you some, if you like.

I presume you have LEDs and a soldering iron ?

iceng2 years ago

R = V / I = ( 3V - 1.9V ) / o.02 = 1.1 / o.02 = 56 ohms

55 is not available...

iceng iceng2 years ago

Your original schematic is correct

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lucek (author) 2 years ago

OK so reading what people have said and following links I think I've got it now.

2AA>switch>1 33ohm resistor>2 LEDs in perralel(fig 1)

Or

3AA>switch>1 39ohm resistor>2 LEDs in series(fig 2)

When I enter the 3v of 2AA batteries into the calculator from petercd it gives me an error.

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iceng lucek2 years ago

You never run LEDs in parallel some will be brighter.

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You CAN use 2 x aa with two chains of one diode and one resistor 47 Ohm

petercd2 years ago

What is the reason for 2 resistors, are the leds physically separated, as in far apart?

Normally we put the 2 leds in series and use one resistor.

You havent mentioned the supply voltage, so kinda hard figuring what the resistor value should be.

Use the calc here http://www.hebeiltd.com.cn/?p=zz.led.resistor.calculator, its much quicker than waiting for an answer.

petercd petercd2 years ago

use one resistor of 25 ohms serving the 2 paralleled leds as in the last calc in the link.

iceng petercd2 years ago

2AA batteries = 3 VDC

petercd iceng2 years ago

my blonde moment. :)

In the circuit you've shown, the LEDs are in parallel. This means you can analyze it as two different "current loops". Using Kirchhoff's loop rule, we know that the sum of the voltage drops in any current loop is zero. This tells us that 3V (from the batteries) - I1 (the current through R1 and D1) * R1 = 0. For the current through D1 to be 20mA, R1 needs to be 150 ohms. The same goes for R2. The problem with this analysis is that I believe your LEDs will receive 3V which is greater than the 2V maximum that you listed. They will probably still function alright, but they might not last as long. Additionally, you should take this response with a grain of salt. I am not an electrical engineer. For more information on the subject, you might want to check out this instructable.

After looking at an online calculator, I realized my error. I neglected the voltage drop of the LED (2V). The calculation then becomes 3V - 0.02A*R1 - 2V = 0. This gives R1 to be 50 ohms like the calculator says. I would also agree with petercd that 2 resistors are probably unnecessary. You could use one 25 ohm resistor instead of 2 50 ohm ones.