have i done anything wrong?
today with my friend, i made a saturated solution of hydrogen sulfide by boiling aqeous hydrogen sulfide solution made by reacting hydrochloric acid with calcium sulfide.
then what we did was we mixed the solution with ammonium hydroxide with hopes that as simply logic would predict, that we would get ammonium sulfide.
now, the end result was nothing like ammonium sulfide, and was actually almost completely scentless, aside from the strong odor of exess ammonia, though we have not yet removed any of the mixed solution from its sealed container yet.
i would like to ask, did we make ammonium sulfide suitable for use in a stink bomb? and if not, what did we do wrong?
in multiple previous questions i have asked if hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide will mak ammonium sulfide, however, in all questions lemonie and others change the subject and spam the questions with warnings about the dangers of hydrogen sulfide, but refuse to actually answer the question, and so have forced me to go trial and error in the practical rather than the theoretical first.
we do not plan on re-attempting the experiment until we know exactly what our outcome will be,
which is , if we either mix a solution of hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide, or bubble hydrogen sulfide gas through ammonium hydroxide solution, will we get ammonium sulfide!
also whoever best answers the question will recieve a best answer, also if you know any other ways to make ammonium sulfide, please do tell
then what we did was we mixed the solution with ammonium hydroxide with hopes that as simply logic would predict, that we would get ammonium sulfide.
now, the end result was nothing like ammonium sulfide, and was actually almost completely scentless, aside from the strong odor of exess ammonia, though we have not yet removed any of the mixed solution from its sealed container yet.
i would like to ask, did we make ammonium sulfide suitable for use in a stink bomb? and if not, what did we do wrong?
in multiple previous questions i have asked if hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide will mak ammonium sulfide, however, in all questions lemonie and others change the subject and spam the questions with warnings about the dangers of hydrogen sulfide, but refuse to actually answer the question, and so have forced me to go trial and error in the practical rather than the theoretical first.
we do not plan on re-attempting the experiment until we know exactly what our outcome will be,
which is , if we either mix a solution of hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide, or bubble hydrogen sulfide gas through ammonium hydroxide solution, will we get ammonium sulfide!
also whoever best answers the question will recieve a best answer, also if you know any other ways to make ammonium sulfide, please do tell
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You're not thinking right about this, you'll have an equilibrium concentration of ammonium hydrosulphide.
Why thought, what's wrong with using calcium sulfide?
L
Yes hydrogen sulphide is really toxic, and I don't know why you're doing this...
ammonium hydroxide, ammonium sulfide will precipitate, in the same way
it does with ammonium sulfate?only the calcium will turn to calcium hydroxide instead of sulfate?
will that reaction be the same if i am using polysulfide instead of sulfide? if not, will sodium sulfide work?
as for the reason why, i am trying to make ammonium sulfide, so i may replicate a rather expensive brand of liquid stink bombs
Sulphides are really basic, I can imagine ammonium hydrosulphide (NH4SH) but I think it might not dry.
Ammonium sulphide is (NH4)2S, you'll not get that.
L
is there any way to turn the hydrosulfide into just sulfide?
It sucks up moisture and turns back into gases. Use it as a liquid (see that link) but not dry.
L
though , is there any way to extract the amonium sulfide or distill it, from the ammonium hydrosulfide?
Hmm, possibly - have you got the kit to try?
L
Anyway, if you haven't done so already you should read both of these. They're both short.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_sulfide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_hydrosulfide
And then take a look at W.P. Bloxam's 1895 article "The Sulphides and Polysulphides of Ammonium", via Google-Books, here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=BgE3AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA277#v=onepage&q&f=false
The (right or wrong?) impression I got from this article is that the bubbling H2S through aqueous ammonia, that this is a process that's both cold, and slow. The article says he prepared a sample of aqueous ammonium hydrosulfide by bubbling the gas through his sample for like 20, or 24 hours. I'm guessing it's done cold to keep it from decomposing, and it's probably the cold that makes it so damn slow.
I'm guessing that whatever it was you mixed up was not cold enough to keep your NH4SH product from decomposing, and not slow enough to allow a significant amount to accumulate in the first place.
Bloxam also describes his attempt to combine NH3 and H2S, both in gas phase, in a glass jar. He says he got some little white crystals. This is another reason I think reacting the two gasses together might be better, because if you succeed you'll actually get something you can see, little white crystals.
Anyway, good luck with your endeavors, and try not to poison anybody, including yourself, with the gasses.