have i done anything wrong?

today with my friend, i made a saturated solution of hydrogen sulfide by boiling aqeous hydrogen sulfide solution made by reacting hydrochloric acid with calcium sulfide.

then what we did was we mixed the solution with ammonium hydroxide with hopes that as simply logic would predict, that we would get ammonium sulfide.
now, the end result was nothing like ammonium sulfide, and was actually almost completely scentless, aside from the strong odor of exess ammonia, though we have not yet removed any of the mixed solution from its sealed container yet.

i would like to ask, did we make ammonium sulfide suitable for use in a stink bomb? and if not, what did we do wrong?

in multiple previous questions i have asked if hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide will mak ammonium sulfide, however, in all questions lemonie and others change the subject and spam the questions with warnings about the dangers of hydrogen sulfide, but refuse to actually answer the question, and so have forced me to go trial and error in the practical rather than the theoretical first.

we do not plan on re-attempting the experiment until we know exactly what our outcome will be,
which is , if we either mix a solution of hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide, or bubble hydrogen sulfide gas through ammonium hydroxide solution, will we get ammonium sulfide!

also whoever best answers the question will recieve a best answer, also if you know any other ways to make ammonium sulfide, please do tell

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lemonie6 years ago

You're not thinking right about this, you'll have an equilibrium concentration of ammonium hydrosulphide.
Why thought,  what's wrong with using calcium sulfide?

L

Yes hydrogen sulphide is really toxic, and I don't know why you're doing this...
oldmanbeefjerky (author)  lemonie6 years ago
what? are you saying that if i simply mix calcium sulfide with
ammonium hydroxide, ammonium sulfide will precipitate, in the same way
it does with ammonium sulfate?only the calcium will turn to calcium hydroxide instead of sulfate?

will that reaction be the same if i am using polysulfide instead of sulfide? if not, will sodium sulfide work?

as for the reason why, i am trying to make ammonium sulfide, so i may replicate a rather expensive brand of liquid stink bombs

Sulphides are really basic, I can imagine ammonium hydrosulphide (NH4SH) but I think it might not dry.
Ammonium sulphide is (NH4)2S, you'll not get that.

L
oldmanbeefjerky (author)  lemonie6 years ago
thats right, it has no odor on account of the fact it doesnt evapourate, which is a definate downer.

is there any way to turn the hydrosulfide into just sulfide?

It sucks up moisture and turns back into gases. Use it as a liquid (see that link) but not dry.

L
oldmanbeefjerky (author)  lemonie6 years ago
liquid is the only way to use it!, at least i think it is anyway, as its the only way ive ever used it.

though , is there any way to extract the amonium sulfide or distill it, from the ammonium hydrosulfide?

Hmm, possibly - have you got the kit to try?

L
oldmanbeefjerky (author)  lemonie6 years ago
i have an improvised distil which consists of a large metal tin containing ice slurry, with 4m of plastic tubing coiling inside it, and i have a few beakers and flasks designed for boiling water in, also i have some stoppers which work with the tubing
kelseymh6 years ago
You really desperately need access to a good undergraduate chemistry textbook. You seem to have little bits and pieces of knowledge, just enough to severely injure yourself and others. You also seem to be unwilling to recognize the hazards of what you are doing. If you don't want to listen to advice from a professional chemist, then you're on your own, and deserve to take the blame for maiming or killing your friends.
I thought H2S was a gas...
. At STP, it is.
If you want to make a concentrated product, I think you'll have better luck reacting H2S and NH3 both in the gas phase. The reason I think that is ammonium hydrosulfide, as this stuff is said to exist when in water, is really, really soluble.  The Wiki article says "infinitely soluble".  For that reason I don't think it will be easy to separate it from water, or even to concentrate it.  I mean if you boil the water, or maybe even if you just let it sit, it is probably going to decompose into H2S and NH3.

Anyway, if you haven't done so already you should read both of these. They're both short.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_sulfide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_hydrosulfide

And then take a look at W.P. Bloxam's 1895 article "The Sulphides and Polysulphides of Ammonium", via Google-Books, here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=BgE3AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA277#v=onepage&q&f=false

The (right or wrong?) impression I got from this article is that the bubbling H2S through aqueous ammonia, that this is a process that's both cold, and slow.  The article says he prepared a sample of aqueous ammonium hydrosulfide by bubbling the gas through his sample for like 20, or 24 hours.  I'm guessing it's done cold to keep it from decomposing, and it's probably the cold that makes it so damn slow.

I'm guessing that whatever it was you mixed up was not cold enough to keep your NH4SH product from decomposing, and not slow enough to allow a significant amount to accumulate in the first place.

Bloxam also describes his attempt to combine NH3 and H2S, both in gas phase, in a glass jar.  He says he got some little white crystals.  This is another reason I think reacting the two gasses together might be better, because if you succeed you'll actually get something you can see, little white crystals.

Anyway, good luck with your endeavors, and try not to poison anybody, including yourself,  with the gasses.