household bottles to hold gasoline?
i need a sealable bottole that i kind find around my house,water bottle,detergent bottle,etc that can safely hold gas for about a day
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What Lemonie means by "other plastics don't like gasoline so well" is that gasoline will dissolve some plastics. Your bottle could melt away with the gasoline in it, which will quickly place the gasoline outside of (the remains of) the bottle, which will make us all hope that there don't happen to be any sparks or open flame around.
Speaking of sparks and open flame, some plastics can also generate static electricity. That's kinda fun when you rub a party balloon on your shirt and then let it "magically" stick to your hair; but when you add a spark to air that contains enough gas fumes, that is "the bomb" - in a very literal way that is no fun at all for anyone within range.
What Frollard means "...do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT use any container that is not rated to store gasoline. Not for a day, not for a minute..." is that this would be a really stupid and silly way for you to die, and it would be an even stupider and sillier way for you to kill anyone you happened take along with you.
(Frollard answers 911 calls for a living, so you gotta figure he knows way too much about this kinda stuff.)
Speaking of sparks and open flame, some plastics can also generate static electricity. That's kinda fun when you rub a party balloon on your shirt and then let it "magically" stick to your hair; but when you add a spark to air that contains enough gas fumes, that is "the bomb" - in a very literal way that is no fun at all for anyone within range.
What Frollard means "...do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT use any container that is not rated to store gasoline. Not for a day, not for a minute..." is that this would be a really stupid and silly way for you to die, and it would be an even stupider and sillier way for you to kill anyone you happened take along with you.
(Frollard answers 911 calls for a living, so you gotta figure he knows way too much about this kinda stuff.)
May 26, 2009. 6:53 PMmman1506 (author)
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what about a glass container i just need for about 5 minutes so i can change a primer vulb and dont soak me and my engine in gas
glass is safe and doesn't corrode under 'most' chemicals - notably muriatic acid etches glass...and a few others. Petro-chemicals should be safe in glass, for a short term. Label it properly with indelible ink...
I agree with Frollard: glass is probably safe enough, especially for a short time when you're just taking it out of something and putting it right back in. The danger with glass, of course, is breakage - I'm not sure just how bad things can get once the floor is covered in spilled gasoline and broken glass, but I really hate to find out. If it were me going to do this, I'd make sure to have a good safe place to set the glass bottle while I worked - maybe something like a metal bucket with a "cushion" of sand in the bottom. And if it were me, I'd toss or recycle the bottle afterwards. (In theory, you could wash the glass clean of all the gasoline residue, but in practice, I sure wouldn't want to drink out of it.) Maybe even put it in a sturdy paper bag and break it first, just to be sure it could never accidentally get re-used. Good luck with your project :)
May 28, 2009. 2:21 PMmman1506 (author)
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thanks im just dont have the time or extra money to buy a gas tank and it should be quick ,now if only i could choose 2 as best answer
With your permission, mman, I hereby invite Frollard to be my co-Best-Answerer for this Question, and to share in my Best Answerer title and all the rights and privileges pertaining thereto. :)
I'm honoured - that would break the laws of...everything though...as 'best' is notably...unsharable between two entities :) Man...my head would explode.
But, wait... - if your head were to explode, then who would answer the 911 call?* We can't have that. Perhaps you'd better be my First Runner Up, to assume my crown and title in the event I become unable to fulfill my duties as Best Answerer :) (*In reality, I'm quite sure that your back-up plans have well-backed-up back-up plans, to prevent just that sort of problem.)
I'm backed up, except in case of catastrophic head destruction...then theres life insurance...and employment related loss of head insurance.
May 30, 2009. 7:32 PMmman1506 (author)
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if you want to be co-best answer then you are but if dont because your head would explode then you're not
May 27, 2009. 6:34 AMand7barton
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What's the matter with using a PETROL CAN ? - You can buy one in your local petrol station.
I wouldn't use a bottle of any kind -
Bottle + Petrol = Molotov Cocktail.
I wouldn't use a bottle of any kind -
Bottle + Petrol = Molotov Cocktail.
There are two problems with simply "Use a Petrol can" as the Answer to this Question:
1) That's not the Question that was asked. The Asker wanted to know whether he could safely use something other than a petrol can.
B) Petrol cans don't grow on trees (neither do gasoline cans, for that matter). Maybe the asker is short on cash. Maybe he belongs to a religion that strictly prohibits the use of petrol cans as such. Maybe he's snowbound and he has to drain and store the last half gallon of gasoline in order to fix the engine of the snowmobile that is his only way to make it out to civilization before the rations run out.
Of course the best general answer to "What should I store this petrol in?" is "A gas can." But cirumstances don't always allow us to solve a problem with what would otherwise be the best and easiest solution.
1) That's not the Question that was asked. The Asker wanted to know whether he could safely use something other than a petrol can.
B) Petrol cans don't grow on trees (neither do gasoline cans, for that matter). Maybe the asker is short on cash. Maybe he belongs to a religion that strictly prohibits the use of petrol cans as such. Maybe he's snowbound and he has to drain and store the last half gallon of gasoline in order to fix the engine of the snowmobile that is his only way to make it out to civilization before the rations run out.
Of course the best general answer to "What should I store this petrol in?" is "A gas can." But cirumstances don't always allow us to solve a problem with what would otherwise be the best and easiest solution.
May 30, 2009. 7:38 PMmman1506 (author)
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yah im short on cash and in canada you cannot buy gas cans at gas stations and it oddity to see a person fill up a gas can in canada.also my dad dosent like going to canadian tire (even though hes under contract to them) and they cost like 7.00 also i found a working gas trimmer on side of a lawn with oil and gas and started on the first time and the second the day i came squeezed the primer bulb and it broke so now i have to screws covering the fuel lines and some gas on the engine (i never use paragraphs)
Jun 14, 2009. 12:56 PM2 stroke
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i never fill a gas can at the station i ask my dad if i can siphon some gas from his car . using the easy siphon dont siphon by mouth or siphon without asking the person who owns the car.
Jun 16, 2009. 5:09 AMmman1506 (author)
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thers traces of oil and gunk in a car and i also mix my own oil into the mixture so it can contaminate it
(paragraphs are seldom effective in small gasoline engine repair anyway) So what do Candians do when they run out of gas? Wait (politely :) by the side of the road until the Mounties come along to on their way to Always Getting Their Man? Good luck with the trimmer.
I think iPod Guy is making a joke about Molotov Cocktails. They are not really appropriate for this situation because you want to store the gas for later use, rather than deliver it via expedited airmail to someone who will be the First Up Against The Wall When The Revolution Comes.
A rag in the mouth of a gasoline container acts as a wick, condensing & absorbing gas fumes from inside the container and re-evaporating them to the outside air, rather than a as a barrier. This makes it a good choice for early-20th-century-vintage improvised explosive devices, but a lousy one for a gas cap. A metal cap or lid is much better for effective storage of the gasoline.
(Note: In addition to being almost as dangerous to the wielder as to the wieldee, and highly illegal just about anywhere with a functioning legal system, Molotov Cocktails are largely obsolete. Advances over the last century in weapons and armor have made them ineffective against pretty much any Establishment that is well-established enough to be worth the bother of insurrecting against.)
A rag in the mouth of a gasoline container acts as a wick, condensing & absorbing gas fumes from inside the container and re-evaporating them to the outside air, rather than a as a barrier. This makes it a good choice for early-20th-century-vintage improvised explosive devices, but a lousy one for a gas cap. A metal cap or lid is much better for effective storage of the gasoline.
(Note: In addition to being almost as dangerous to the wielder as to the wieldee, and highly illegal just about anywhere with a functioning legal system, Molotov Cocktails are largely obsolete. Advances over the last century in weapons and armor have made them ineffective against pretty much any Establishment that is well-established enough to be worth the bother of insurrecting against.)
do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT use any container that is not rated to store gasoline. Not for a day, not for a minute. They are rated as such for the chemical resistance, and static discharge. They should have a stamped marking showing UL, or CSA, or some other international safety symbol.
and thats not a quintuple negative perse, it's a very emphasized 'dont'.
May 26, 2009. 6:57 AMBardouv
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even if it were the quintuple negative thing there are five NOTs so there are two pairs of NOTs which cancel out so there is still one NOT that stays negative.
technically it's a quintuple regarding using 'not' rated containers - sextuple negative on the positive :D Either way - I just figured some might misinterpret it.
Polyethylene or polypropylene (PE / PP) are good, otherwise glass. Other plastics don't like gasoline so well.
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