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is overunity possable?

Is it possible? Because somone says it isn't; I don't believe them unless I test it for myself.

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jpitz314 years ago
nerd7473, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

Your desire to want to test inspite of what others say, by gathering empirical data, is to be commended. Others would just believe in what they read, even what they read in textbooks, at face value, without testing.

Your desire to test things out inspite of what others say, will make you a good engineer and scientist.

Study hard in school, take lots of science courses and keep on learning on your own. Ignore many of the stupid replies you have recieved on your starship coil posts.

nerd7473 (author)  jpitz314 years ago
ok thanks for the site jpitz31
iceng4 years ago
There actually was a young fellow
Who had an electric wheel barrow
and put an alternator
on his electric motor
But It didn't work in Reno.
nerd7473 (author)  iceng4 years ago
did it givwe him more energy out than in?
iceng nerd74734 years ago
"But It didn't work"
nerd7473 (author)  iceng4 years ago
cool...not, I wish it would have worked
lemonie4 years ago
Fundamentally, the answer is "no" in terms of energy or mass.
However, you can achieve overunity in things like stock-markets where money may be generated from nothing (and vanishes just as easily).

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If you mean in the sense of getting more energy out of a system than you put in, in the absence of any fuel, then, no, as you have been told, the laws of thermodynamics forbid it. You can't get round them. Remember these "laws" are based on detailed observation about how the universe works.

If, on the other hand, you're referring to something like nuclear fusion, where, if you kick the reaction hard enough, the fusing bits release more energy than you kicked them with, then yes, you can have an "over unity" system - here, if you feed it with fuel from which the energy is released.


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nerd7473 (author)  canucksgirl4 years ago
what does that mean?
It means I agreed with the comment... (hence the +1) :-)
nerd7473 (author)  canucksgirl4 years ago
k now I feel dumb
pfff.... you're not the first (or the last) to ask what that means... :-)
nerd7473 (author)  steveastrouk4 years ago
you have to put energy in from what I understand
Yes, exactly! For a mechanical or electrical system, you put energy in in one form, and you get out energy in a different form, along with some "wasted" energy in the form of heat, sound, vibration, etc., which isn't usable for other purposes.

An "overunity" device claims to produce more usable energy as output than you put into it to start with. This is fundamentally impossible (and provably impossible, not just "we've never seen it before"). You will need to study physics in order to understand why that is true.
Kiteman4 years ago
"I don't believe them unless I test it for myself."

So, go ahead and test it.

You can come up with your own design, or search the web for many proposed free energy systems, build it, and carefully monitor the energy you get out compared to the energy you put in.

If you get more out than you put in, be sure to get back to us quickly...
nerd7473 (author)  Kiteman4 years ago
I think that is a great idea kiteman
kelseymh4 years ago
No, it's not possible. If you really want to understand it, then you should enroll in a good physics course at a local college or university.

Given how you've phrased your question, it is unlikely that you have either the equipment or expertise to "test it for yourself". Do you know how to measure energy inputs to a system in the form of mechanical, thermal, electrical, and other sources?

Do you know how to properly encapsulate your system so that you can fully measure all of the outputs, including thermal, sound, light, infrared, mechanical, and other forms of energy?
nerd7473 (author)  kelseymh4 years ago
no
Then you need to have some physics background (take and pass courses) in order to understand the problem, and understand what you need to do to test it.

Testing it yourself is always a good idea, provided that you understand what you're testing, how to test it, and how to interpret your results.
nerd7473 (author)  kelseymh4 years ago
k