50 LED Light String

Im trying to wire a string of 50 LED's that are 200mA each. They are all connected in one long string, end to end (in series, I think). I'm having trouble trying to figure out what kind of power source and resistors to use and how to wire the resistors in. In the past I've wired 1 or 2 LED's to a 12 volt power source using a couple of resistors in parallel, but this project is much bigger and I'm worried about current loss and the very high voltage needed to power a string of 50 2 or 4 volt LED's in series... is that like, 100000 volts, or what?? Any guidance would be appreciated.

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wd468 years ago
I have a question, can I take 12V DC white Pre Wired 5mm LED Lamp and put them in my garden light housings, and run 20 of them in a row using the same wiring i have in the ground already? the low voltage system uses 20, 4 watt bulbs rite now, but i would like to remove the transformer and use my battery back ( 10, trojan T-105's ) i have for my solar panel system.
mark10111 years ago
I tried this and it doesn't work. The problems that occur are LEDs light up with different brightness, and secondly my string got pretty hot on 120v. You have to go with much smaller groups in parellel.
photozz mark10111 years ago
were you trying to connect them to 120 AC? cause that would most likely explain the heat. LED's only pass electricity one way. AC tries to ram current back through the other way as well. should use an inverter unless the LEDs were designed for AC..
LEDNewbie (author)  photozz11 years ago
So if I use a power inverter I can keep the string wired in series? problem is- newbie that I am, I already wired the string, and just wired it in series because thats how it came in the 1st place... I think- (LEDs are from a GKI/Bethlehem light string- was too short and needed to be extended to fit the app.) Id really like to avoid rewiring, but will do it if I absolutely have to.
photozz LEDNewbie11 years ago
Well, most normal LED lights are designed to use DC current. What comes out of a wall socket is AC. I'm not entirely sure how most LED Christmas lights are set up, it could be that half are wired for one polarity, and half are on another circuit with the opposite polarity, or they could be designed for AC. Aditionaly, the strings were set up to have a certain number of lights to account for the voltage. removing half the lights could cause problems. What I was saying is that taking normal Radio shack LED lights and wiring a pile of them to an AC circuit is asking for a fire. Half the AV current is going to try to flow through the light the wrong way. this could, and almost certainly will generate a lot of heat and possibly small explosions I would have wired them all in parallel, then found a 2-5v supply that could provide the right amount of amperage. Much safer than trying to run 100v. If you are absolutely stuck with them wired as they are, you will have to find a 100V supply somewhere and do your best. You could try cutting every third or fourth light, and then rewiring all those series "chunk" sections into groups of parallel lights. then all you would need is a DC brick delivering 6-8v at an amp or so. Else, if you are brave and want to cheat, just go to Radio shack or Home Depot and find a beefy variable resistor (pot) and wire that in. Make sure it can handle the full voltage and then some. think wall style dimmer switch...then plug it in and crank on the pot til the lights look right. duct tape it down and away you go.
LEDNewbie (author)  photozz11 years ago
Very Helpful. Thanks. So the consensus seems to be that the best thing to do is to wire the LEDs in a parallel/series arrangement with say 5 LEDs connected in series with each string connected in parallel for 10 parallel strings. The current would be 200mA times the number of parallel strings - 2 amps and the voltage would be the 5 series connected LEDs or 17.1 volts, which means I could power the LEDs with an input voltage of 20V and 2 amps of current- then use resistors at the beginning of EACH series chain (10 resistors in all) to bring the 20v down to the 17volts of forward voltage needed for the LEDs. Does this sound right or do I need to do more homework? And can I just pick a 20volt2/Amp power supply up at a local Radio Shack or Home Depot... or do I need to start studying THAT now too? ;-)
20v over each LED is WAY too much. LEDs tend to range from 2-4v. Putting that much foreword voltage will just kill the LEDs
LEDNewbie (author)  trebuchet0311 years ago
even in a series-parallel chain with 5 LED's in series?
wait, I think I misread -- you want 20V over 5 LEDs... that should work for 4v rated components ;) Remember, you can always go a little less and have your components last longer ;)

If you want to go DC - I'd use a laptop power cable. Mine is rated for and output of 18.5v and 6.5A max which should do the trick.
Half the AV current is going to try to flow through the light the wrong way.

Just to reiterate -- this is not a problem. The "D" in LED is diode, a diode's job is to make sure current can only flow in one direction. Thus, they are designed to take current in either direction (to a design limit) but only pass in one direction.

Perfect example is Fridge Lights which uses AC to power their LEDs ;)
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