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A massive AD! Round 3

First AD attack: I was just surfing around on instructables until I came across this massive AD of macs! It there some kind of bug on the AD?



Second AD attack: I first thought I have been redirected to another web, but... Now instructables home page has the same layout as the AD it self! NORTON!



Third AD attack: Norton strikes again...



You can customize instructable header to your like to try eliminate the weird layout linked to the AD by following this forum. I hope this helps!

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DJ Radio says: Aug 2, 2009. 3:23 PM
Ibles has let apple and norton advertise on their site like this so they can get more money to keep the price of pro accounts low.
Derin says: May 22, 2009. 9:46 PM
Round 3!Also,this is new.Check the system clock.
Plasmana (author) says: May 24, 2009. 12:17 PM
System clock? Where?
Derin says: Jul 5, 2009. 1:11 PM
I say my pic didnt post.
Kwitmeh3 says: May 22, 2009. 6:04 PM
It's happening AGAIN!
Joe Martin says: Apr 25, 2009. 3:31 PM
Eww, Norton.
Rock Soldier says: Apr 25, 2009. 11:57 AM
After the Apple ad, I'm surprised Microsoft didn't put an ad up yet...
tech-king says: Apr 23, 2009. 3:45 PM
i go away for a few months and the site goes to yellow hell......
Rock Soldier says: Apr 25, 2009. 11:47 AM
It's revenge I tell ya.
Plasmana (author) says: Apr 24, 2009. 12:38 PM
Same, that what caused me to leave instructables for a while, now it may happen again. There also have been so many changes on instructables, I don't like changes... :-(
tech-king says: Apr 27, 2009. 4:40 PM
same; i hate the categorised forums.
Sandisk1duo says: Apr 25, 2009. 12:35 PM
changes scare ppl
Plasmana (author) says: Apr 29, 2009. 11:02 AM
Big time to those who has Asperger..
Matt21497 says: Aug 2, 2009. 11:45 AM
I forgot what that was. Educate me.
gimmelotsarobots says: Apr 24, 2009. 7:14 PM
AAAAAAAAAH!!! It's attach of the killer norton blobs! RUN FOR COVER, SAVE THE IBLES ROBOT!!!!
tech-king says: Apr 27, 2009. 4:41 PM
good point; we must protect the robot from nortons power-craving architecture.
Plasmana (author) says: Apr 29, 2009. 10:58 AM
Yeah, I just hope they don't paint those freaking weird black circles on him... :-O
Derin says: May 17, 2009. 1:10 AM
Oh an ethernet cable on the norton servers! *reads label* Label:Leads to Instructables Robot QUICK GET ME MY CRIMPERS
Derin says: May 17, 2009. 1:12 AM
Imma redirect the wire to that photo flash cap to KILL the servers!
gimmelotsarobots says: May 17, 2009. 8:08 PM
How about one of the 50,000V one of a tesla coil?
ll.13 says: Apr 25, 2009. 4:52 AM
dombeef says: Apr 24, 2009. 7:05 PM
I fell of my stool when I first went on Intructables that day!
-henry- says: Apr 22, 2009. 8:23 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! now it's yellow with big Norton Security ads and strange black circles. I liked the white better.
Plasmana (author) says: Apr 23, 2009. 10:33 AM
- Updated yeah, those strange black circles are freaky... Whats up with all those lines coming out of the circle?
-henry- says: Apr 23, 2009. 4:24 PM
I don't know what the deal is with the circles, and all of the people that look like they are falling down. I think the background image kind of screws up the whole design of the website.
Lithium Rain says: Apr 22, 2009. 8:30 PM
Same.
Lithium Rain says: Apr 23, 2009. 11:11 AM
Thanks for the linkback, but I *really* don't want people using my script to circumvent the ads.

If necessary, I'll remove them.
xACIDITYx says: Apr 23, 2009. 11:23 AM
It doesn't do anything as far as the ads are concerned. I don't think that 'ibles gets money based upon how many people see the background, because there's probably no way to check if the background loaded. The ads are what matters. But I could be wrong.
Lithium Rain says: Apr 23, 2009. 12:36 PM
Hm, well the only thing is some of the Norton images would probably be supplanted if you used my styles - it would definitely be good to know whether this is a package-deal thing (in which case I have no qualms about supplying the style to cover it) or if it's impression based, in which case I don't want people using them to cover over the yellow. It'd be good to get some official confirmation on whether you're right - but then it wouldn't make very good business sense to tell us, so it'd be a bit unfair to ask...
Doctor What says: Mar 5, 2009. 6:50 PM
Oh, so that's why I have massive ad attacks. I thought the white header was an error on my part, not actually removed for effect.
Plasmana (author) says: Mar 6, 2009. 11:09 AM
Haha, I thought the same thing too... :-)
yourcat says: Apr 14, 2009. 8:55 AM
Me too...
Doctor What says: Mar 6, 2009. 12:22 PM
I was going to make a topic about it, but then I thought, maybe someone had the same problem? Then I searched it. And then I found this topic.
Plasmana (author) says: Mar 10, 2009. 11:14 AM
lol
Doctor What says: Mar 19, 2009. 9:03 AM
Just a thought...

The mac ads worked, really, really well. Think about it. Not just that they removed the orange from the page to emphasize their ad. They got the main group of the community talking about their ad. "Where's the orange?" "Oh, APPLE did it." "You mean APPLE controlled the header?" "Yes, APPLE made a huge ad." "I feel like buying an APPLE." "Yes, APPLEs are good".
ReCreate says: Mar 30, 2009. 10:45 PM
that reminds me,i gotta steal apples from a neighbors tree since it is over the road
canida says: Mar 19, 2009. 2:52 PM
Hm, sounds like the brainwashing has worked. ;) I think the ads looked pretty good, and the whitewashed page was pretty slick, but am happy to have the orange header back where it belongs.
Lithium Rain says: Mar 21, 2009. 6:51 PM
Oh, but you don't have to go back to orange!

Use the wonderful user script/user style written by that insanely talented user, umm...whatshername....hmm, can't remember, but yeah, it's awesome! :D

</shameless plug>
dombeef says: Apr 13, 2009. 6:16 PM
It sounds like you are trying to sell something
Lithium Rain says: Apr 14, 2009. 7:38 AM
Hahaha. Well, I'm trying to give away something! :D
dombeef says: Apr 14, 2009. 2:11 PM
Yeah lol
dombeef says: Apr 13, 2009. 6:17 PM
LOL
Rock Soldier says: Mar 10, 2009. 2:02 PM
Gah! It happened again! Stop the eco friendly madness...
on second thought
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:22 PM
What's all that junk on your dock?
Plasmana (author) says: Mar 6, 2009. 3:29 AM
Umm, mainly stuff I downloaded onto my computer. I did not really bother to clean it up...
Kiteman says: Feb 23, 2009. 10:36 AM
I'd assume that Apple paid extra for the larger ad, and then paid more extra to have the orange removed from that page so that it didn't over-power the green.

I know they contribute to the continued existence of the site, but I hope they're not going to get too common.
canida says: Feb 27, 2009. 12:54 PM
Never fear, it's a short-term special event. We like the orange!

This message typed on my shiny MacBook Pro
gmjhowe says: Mar 1, 2009. 1:52 PM
YES, mac users unite! I recently got myself a nice new iMac, and i'm loving it. Did apple do you a special deal? Han works at a University, so i get student discount (about £200 odd).
Keith-Kid says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:11 PM
Deals? Discounts? Money?! Uh....yeah!....uh....Apple!....I have an ipod!....uh....Macs rule!!.....yeah.....(Can I get my money now?)
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:20 PM
Go to the Mac store and try to track down the student discount page, and see if your school participates.
11010010110 says: Mar 5, 2009. 4:26 PM
its a bit like what microsoft attempted with their software (reaction from kids was like : no thanks we'll continue to download it on emule)
Keith-Kid says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:34 PM
Trust me, I don't even need to check. They don't. Period.
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:47 PM
I couldn't pick which response would be funnier...
Keith-Kid says: Mar 5, 2009. 2:01 PM
The answer is none.
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 3:44 PM
:P
gmjhowe says: Mar 5, 2009. 2:07 PM
Actually, its all done off apples back, not your schools. Basically, you have to enter a valid school name, and thats all.
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:47 PM
Sucks to be you :p
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:47 PM
Srewed, you be, strong with the force your school is not.
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:46 PM
Then thoust art screwed my son...
Derin says: Mar 5, 2009. 10:17 AM
I want a Mac too.Maybe I'll get a Mini sometime.
Kiteman says: Feb 27, 2009. 1:13 PM
And read on my elderly un-branded PC!
Keith-Kid says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:14 PM
Cheap-o-brand-o? I have one of those. In fact I just got the latest in computer technology. Its called "Windows" a chap by the name of Billiam Gates came up with it. Seems promising. In fact, I got a version that isnt gonna be released for another few years, its called Windows 3.1.

So yeah, im hip to all this technology scene. *Jams out to hip cool cassette player* Can't touch this.....
ReCreate says: Mar 30, 2009. 10:50 PM
Wow,My time machine worked!
KentsOkay says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:21 PM
ROFLMAO
Kiteman says: Mar 5, 2009. 1:59 PM
Indeed...
Plasmana (author) says: Feb 25, 2009. 3:28 AM
I have now seen it four times. I wonder how much apple paid for that massive add...
Kiteman says: Feb 25, 2009. 10:07 AM
More than the other advertisers, but I bet less than they paid to get it on the NYTimes' website.
qwertyboy says: Feb 24, 2009. 5:48 PM
Kiteman said: "I know they contribute to the continued existence of the site, but I hope they're not going to get too common."

I agree with that statement, it's nice to know that we exist, but too many would just be annoying.
agent says: Feb 24, 2009. 1:21 PM
*Agent thinks about the future of Ibles with Mac* ... *Shudder*
kelseymh says: Feb 23, 2009. 11:16 AM
Eric mentioned this on Adrian's color-changing thread. I'm a bit disappointed that the Staff left the masthead white, rather than adopting Adrian's very own "green theme" masthead CSS. But yeah, I think you're right that Apple is sponsoring I'ble's "Green" category for a while, to promote their new MacBooks.
ewilhelm says: Feb 23, 2009. 4:02 PM
We offered green; they preferred white.
Plasmana (author) says: Mar 6, 2009. 3:31 AM
Why do they want white instead of green?
yourcat says: Apr 14, 2009. 9:00 AM
Cause macs are white! (at least, they always used to be...)
Plasmana (author) says: Apr 16, 2009. 4:34 PM
Ha! On the age of G3's, they came in many differnet colors, but now apple use white, silver, and black...
gmjhowe says: Feb 25, 2009. 4:28 AM
Did you speak with Steve Jobs himself?
PKM says: Feb 24, 2009. 5:09 AM
I actually quite like the white masthead... I wondered if it was part of a slashdot-style initiative to randomly change the colour scheme of the entire page, then I saw it was just an oversize advert.
Tool Using Animal says: Feb 23, 2009. 4:15 PM
Oh so that's what that's about.
Lithium Rain says: Feb 23, 2009. 3:41 PM
He did? I can't find the comment...what did he say about it? Hehe. I guess they don't want/need my stinkin' code! :-D
jeff-o says: Feb 23, 2009. 11:37 AM
Does this mean that Apple might be supplying some prizes in the future? *crosses fingers*
KentsOkay says: Feb 24, 2009. 5:36 AM
WOOT WOOT *joins in with lucky hat dance*
jeff-o says: Feb 24, 2009. 6:26 AM
You're on your own, I lost my lucky hat in a game of strip poker.
KentsOkay says: Feb 24, 2009. 9:11 AM
Haha
Labot2001 says: Feb 23, 2009. 12:11 PM
Expect vouchers for $100 off your next MacBook.
agent says: Feb 24, 2009. 1:22 PM
Doesn't do much to the price :P
Labot2001 says: Feb 25, 2009. 1:42 PM
It was sarcasm.
jeff-o says: Feb 23, 2009. 2:00 PM
With billions in cash tucked away, I should hope that Apple can pony up a bit more than that. ;)
Rock Soldier says: Mar 1, 2009. 4:39 PM
Oh good. I thought it was just me...
jedi pen-gui-n says: Mar 4, 2009. 7:21 AM
me too. i'm like aahhhhh!! what happened?
jessyratfink says: Feb 25, 2009. 6:03 AM
I think the front page looks quite nice, honestly. It was a little confusing at first but it's a very well done ad, no popping out or loud noise. Those are two things I appreciate. :D Plus, yay for us to have Apple advertising here!
ewilhelm says: Feb 23, 2009. 11:25 AM
Check out http://nytimes.com/ right now. I'm proud that we're running similar campaigns as the New York Times.
Plasmana (author) says: Feb 25, 2009. 3:32 AM
Ahh, so it is NOT a bug... Thanks for telling me it was an agreement.
gmjhowe says: Feb 23, 2009. 2:32 PM
For apple to want to advertise on Ibles like this is a great move forwards. Biggest specific advertiser to date? And, the advert is some what relevant, the materials used by apple, really do set some new standards in computer manufacture.
11010010110 says: Feb 28, 2009. 1:23 PM
continued from depths
without itunes (or itunes alternative or changing the ipod default settings) - can i unpack the ipod and plug it in and drag mp3 files to the window ?

the eject option is ok then if it is easy to spot
gmjhowe says: Feb 28, 2009. 2:14 PM
Its very easy to spot the eject options. The said drag and drop for an mp3 player, normally only applies to low end small sized mp3 players. As i said, ALL the good quality big brand mp3 players, use their own programs, sony, zune, creative, to name a few. Part of the reason the iPod is popular, is how usefull itunes is. Also, iTunes is an extension of a normal window. In that, you can drag and drop files into it as if it was part of the OS, or you can easily delete, change view, you can drag and drop to the iPod itself, or set the iPod to auto update.
11010010110 says: Feb 28, 2009. 3:09 PM
this is a huge downside of ipod and the other players which act like that when i buy a device i want it to be plug and play. no plug and go install software (no matter how easy it is to install) the fact you need itunes to sync it drops the ipod to below the untitled chinese players - which accept and are able to play any mp3 you drag to them using any file manager in any operating system without need to install extra stuff. this includes the computer at friends home or in school library or the dvd player etc. the main task of ipod is portable media player and not usb dongle for itunes several users may think that itunes is t3h best. to me it is useless cause i allready have the player and file manager of my choice (ones that dont bother to enforce stupid drm upon me by the way). but it is required. the untitled chinese product that costs 1/4 the price and has similar capabilities does work with my software of choice. and they are not that flimsy - mine is alive and performs well despite that it goes with me everywhere thru everything like if it was pikachu apple could make the ipod usable as much as possible without requiring itunes. this would not reduce the value of ipod or itunes in any way - if you like itunes you can still install it i dont know about creative today but we had a muvo 2 fm somewhere and it used to sync perfectly on my linux box with just a file manager
gmjhowe says: Feb 28, 2009. 3:16 PM
It would seem to me, alot of your problems and annoyances come from using a less standard OS, being linux, i had this through before, and you have just confirmed it. To me on the other hand, i love having itunes to orginise my music, just like i have iphoto to orginise my pictures, a sepcific program designed to help me orginise the said media in the most efficient and simple way. I see your point about the cheap players, but, i also like to be able to watch HD video, or browse the internet, or check my emails, like my iPod allows me to do. I guess, really, the iPod touch is no longer a mp3 player, but more like a pocket sized netbook.
11010010110 says: Feb 28, 2009. 3:46 PM
imagine you want to buy a swiss knife. you have a choice of 2 products. one is smooth and shiny and has dc in socket and comes with power adapter. the other is stamped of steel and has sharp and not very accurate edges and comes without anything else the descriptions on them say : knife (needs plug in to ac) + flashlight (needs plug in to ac) + screwdriver + lighter (needs plug in to ac) + cork opener + wire cutters + file + saw knife + screwdriver + lighter + saw i would go with the secon one. why ? i think its obvious. i do have ac at home and at friends homes but i want it to be able to work everywhere i am a linux user. it would take me exactly a minute to install gtkpod and sync an ipod my point is another. everything i said would hold if i used windows. my point is about ability to utilize the abilities of my devices to the max where ever i am and whatever computers are around me i think that stuff should be built mainly for the widest functionality possible under different circumstances. not for being perfect in ideal conditions. not for being visually pleasing. stuff that you can take on you everywhere and get the most out of it - even if its most is not very high this relates also to the fire extinguisher battle we had about the use of flash for insts slideshows
gmjhowe says: Feb 28, 2009. 3:59 PM
You see, i understand you thinking, but, i want a device that excels at what it does, i want it to always work, just how i want it. It needs to be well built, and reliable, in my line of work, i can not afford to have something not work. If im booking an appointment with a client, my iPod needs to work perfectly, and then auto sync itself with my Mac, and iCal. My photos need to auto sync with my iPod so that i have my latest Portfolio at hand. We both have different needs, which is exactly why i understand the need for different OS's. But, having said that, there is alot about Mac OS X, that many people do not know exists, and many peoples views are 'tainted' by rumours, and old problems, like the 'right click' argument, that so many a noob brings up. For me, things have to work, thats why i use Macs, and why i use everything else i use.
11010010110 says: Feb 28, 2009. 5:29 PM
everyone wants stuff to work you speak about a known set of stuff which works well together (and note that most of it is by apple) i speak about ability to work as much as possible in a wide variety of circumstances - moving stuff around between many computers which run anything between linux or windows 98 - vista in various levels of good maintenance or broken-ness. when i need to do anything like copy a folder of mp3s from friend's player to mine using a school library computer (windows with restricted user account) and rush with it to the stage arts to plug the amp to its headphones socket (with twisted wires skills cause plug does not fit). or just move presentations and docs between computers with different versions of ms / open office about the noob part - i know myself what you are speaking about. i am one of them when it comes to mac. but in windows and linux everything seems to go well. i think that any os goes well if you know how to handle it. problem is to learn how
gmjhowe says: Feb 28, 2009. 8:09 PM
Every thing you just described works just the same in mac is x. Dragging files accross etc. Opening files including word files actually works better, the built in quicklook allows me to view word, excel, all the common picture movie and music files. Just by hitting the space bar when the file is highlighted. What I am speaking about is that mac does all those things, but better. Apple really strive to make everything work across all OS's to the point that you can save items in a specifically compatible format. The fact that I am posting this comment from my iPod touch shows how you can't compare it to a cheap mp3 player.
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