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Advertise-ible?

I have an rss feed from -ible to my reader.

I've noticed that there are lots of -ibles that seem like thinly veiled ads.  They talk about a secific 'brand' to solve a problem which I think makes the whole point of the site useless.

Is this just because the website can't screen it, is within the guidelines or is a revenue stream for the site.

I'm fine with anything, just as long as I can expect as such.

lemonie2 years ago
It's all page-hits, they've never been overly bothered...

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
It depends - when I'm not working, I catch a lot of spam 'ibles that are posted, whilst HQ sleeps ("How to buy cheap Ugg boots" etc), but they could easily have made it into the RSS feed before I flag them for removal.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
The topic was on the subject of "thinly veiled ads" (like reposts from/to blogs, YouTube etc.) - I reason that this isn't a spam question because spam would have been mentioned if it was.

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
I know what he means, but, since he's reading the RSS, he's probably getting more of the actual spam than survives, which might skew his view.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
Oh dear, do you think someone should take spam more seriously then?

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
It's being taken as seriously as possible - CT member flags remove spam immediately - but the only way to completely stop human-typed spam projects hitting the lists would be to filter every project manually.

I think the majority of members prefer seeing the occasional spam to having to wait hours or days before their work gets seen.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
Filter every project manually is what you're doing if you flag things (even whilst HQ sleeps), you wouldn't not flag spam would you?
My suggestion years ago was to do this before they hit public view...

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
That's what I mean - if all the projects were backed-u,p waiting for human intervention before they see the light of day, it would take ages for projects to reach the general lists.

Instead, it takes a few minutes for spam to disappear.

There was a suggestion that new members be put on an automatic probation, with their new topics and projects being held for human OK, but I don't know if HQ heard it, since it was made in a slightly off-topic thread.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
If the statement "Instead, it takes a few minutes for spam to disappear." is true then by logical derivation the statement  "Instead, it takes a few minutes for non-spam to be published." is also true.

Alternatively: spam doesn't get backed-up waiting for human intervention before it is consigned to darkness, and it does not take ages for spam to be removed from the general lists.*

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*Excepting where flagging fails to work
Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
It's the difference in volume - there are dozens of decent projects for every spam.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
Would you not spend the seconds clicking a button on the decent projects?
I think you'd spend the time to comment on half of them?

It's the point-in-time concept that I don't think people get: if we (you & me) are looking at new stuff, commenting, rating and flagging, we could be a group of ~100 or so that stop stuff before it goes public. No real difference in workload (shared) just where it sits in the work-flow. It's pure logic that if you don't want spam on your site there is value in having un-paid volunteers blocking it. But it reduces your Google-indexed page-hits....

: )

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
The google thing is something I've never bothered to learn about.

Maybe others could add their views - would they rather wait a while for content to appear, spam free, or would they prefer instant gratification, plus spam that disappears later?

Edit: The problem would be solved by Lemonie's suggestion of using volunteers to deal with the queue, but for some reason that doesn't seem to ever be an option.
They've got the volunteers (waves).

(It's a shame you don't read the recent projects any more - they are kind of the point of the site.)
Yes, I know - it's not a dearth of volunteers, but for some reason they are reluctant to use them in that way. >shrug< Whatever.

(Eh. I'll click on something that catches my eye on the front page once in awhile, but not that often. Part (though not all) of it is that making physical stuff, for the most part, isn't important at all to me right now - certainly not for the sake of it; I make things if necessary but not for any inherent joy in it.)
I make almost none of the projects I read, but I just enjoy reading them. My own recent prolificness has hit a small snag - somebody gave me a job, and now I don't have the time.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
Still on the topic, did no one ever flag this*, or is this a valid Instructable?
http://www.instructables.com/id/What-to-do-when-youre-bored/

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*enough comments there, it got views.
Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
Obviously not - I don't recall seeing it before, though.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
I've stopped flagging things, it seems futile (perhaps on the logic that if the system works then someone else will do it - but you know where that ends up...) I only rate things if they've not got one or I think they're worth pushing.
Instant gratification sounds wrong to me, I don't believe that you could persuade me that it is right.

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Kiteman lemonie2 years ago
No, seriously, I was wondering what *other* people thought - you and I are not exactly a representative sample regarding the opinions or desires of the general membership.
lemonie Kiteman2 years ago
Well aye, I used "you" inappropriately as I meant "anyone".

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Kiteman2 years ago
There are a number of people who post outright spam, but this generally gets caught within a few minutes.

Typical examples talk about shoes, wedding dresses and hotels.

However, if you mean Sugru-based projects, Sugru is a unique product, with no comparable substitute on the market, plus Sugru is a sponsor of Instructables, supplying many of the prizes in challenges.

fefrie (author)  Kiteman2 years ago
No, Suguru I consider the brand name of a common item that is fine. It's like saying I use kleenex to blow my nose. It's just a brand name that has hit the venacular.

Or how to build a knex gun. That's fine, but more obvious stuff for example that was in the rss feed recently like: How to get rid of your land line using Toronto internet VOIP services, and yess that how to buy Ugg boots things. It's not spam because it does tell you how to do something constructive instead of the standard 'buy viagra' spam.

I thought that the RSS feed was preapproved for the best ibles that will bring traffic to the site, but lately it seemed like it was just a feed that posted any stupid thing that someone 'ibled and went straight to RSS, which kind of diminishes the value of the feed.
It sounds like your RSS feed might be a list of all recently published instructables, in which case, you're going to see a decent amount of spam, just because it's hard to find and track everything straight away. The two things you pointed out are both spam, and should be flagged as such if you see them. Once you flag something like that, someone here will review it by hand and take the appropriate action.
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