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*****EDIT 20110115@0930PST*****
FOUND BUGS

  • **When clicking on a forum topic, the default sort is "active" when clicking prev/next the link changes the sort to "newest" changing the order of comments.
  • **When a comment thread is featured, the order of the posts change from being ordered by threads, to ordered chronologically (see photos in comments for details)
  • **When you comment, there's an inability to reply to the comment you just left. (not fixed-feature)
  • **When responding to a lot of comments without replying, comments get double posted (occasionally)
key:
## = has been passed along to the dev team to look into and fix
** = Fixed/Done
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Jan 11, 2011. 12:46 PMkelseymh says:

The commenting bugs I know about are


  • disappearances, where a comment get stuck in the filters and never released;
  • next/prev discrepancies;
  • Deep-thread collisions with the sidebar.

The latter two will not show up until there are more than one page's worth of comments posted. This is my contribution to starting the population.

Jan 11, 2011. 2:10 PMKiteman says:
We're trying...
Jan 11, 2011. 2:12 PMkelseymh says:
Well, yeah; some people tell me I'm pretty trying, too...
Jan 11, 2011. 2:12 PMKiteman says:
...to replicate...

(Oh, a whole car-park just floated past on the news - glad I'm not in Oz)
Jan 11, 2011. 2:13 PMKiteman says:
...the long-thread...
Jan 11, 2011. 2:13 PMKiteman says:
...bug here.
Jan 11, 2011. 2:21 PMcaitlinsdad says:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Jan 11, 2011. 2:38 PMKiteman says:
Allegedly...
Jan 11, 2011. 3:03 PMKiteman says:
Plenty of threads and sub-threads, folks, and add pictures as well, please!
Jan 11, 2011. 2:51 PMLithium Rain says:
(Warning, Star Trek nonsense ahead)

So, TNG or Voyager?

Jun 12, 2011. 4:34 PMChirpoff says:
<3 Star Trek! I think my fav is ST:Ent.
Jan 11, 2011. 2:53 PMKiteman says:
Why not the original series?

Jan 11, 2011. 4:51 PMLithium Rain says:
I find it too...campy/cheesy; it's distracting and I can't manage to suspend reality, and laughing at it gets old fast. I'm too spoiled to modern CGI and special effects, I guess...
Jan 12, 2011. 2:22 PMKiteman says:
You'll be no good with old DR Who then.

The giant rats in Talons of Weng-Chiang, plus the little Peking Homunculus, completely freaked out a nine-year-old Kite - I genuinely watched it from behind the sofa.



Jan 12, 2011. 2:42 PMLithium Rain says:
Wait...what the sam hill is a Peking Homunculus? Part of the brain structure of a Chinese individual?
Jan 12, 2011. 2:45 PMKiteman says:
It was a little robot with a pig brain instead of a computer, which almost started WW6

Jan 12, 2011. 2:47 PMKiteman says:
98
Jan 12, 2011. 2:47 PMKiteman says:
99
Jan 12, 2011. 2:48 PMKiteman says:
100!
Jan 12, 2011. 2:51 PMkelseymh says:
And with this reply, we should now have NEXT/PREV buttons available to demonstrate the confusion :-)
Jan 13, 2011. 11:11 AMKiteman says:
Not that I can see...
Jan 13, 2011. 11:51 AMkelseymh says:
See my top-level post for a detailed description, and a possible explanation. I normally view forum topics sorted by active, but the next button apparently has "sort=NEWEST" hardcoded. With two different sorts, the indexing of comments is naturally different, leading to the observed behaviour.
Jan 12, 2011. 2:40 PMLithium Rain says:
Sadly, I suspect that's true...

xD Behind the couch, I love it.
Jan 12, 2011. 2:46 PMKiteman says:
What similar thing did the US have? Twilight Zone?
Jan 12, 2011. 6:08 PMLithium Rain says:
You know, I don't know (before my time!). I would guess Twilight Zone, the original Star Trek, or...hm. I know I've heard of creepy shows from 30 years ago, but I'd have to think what they would have been...assorted "scary monsters, yo" type shows is the closest I can come atm.

>shrug<
Jan 11, 2011. 4:48 PMLithium Rain says:
...and 4th bug?

The full text of my comment read (with words replacing the >'s so they don't get converted:


(Uh...whoops. Didn't mean to make the whole stinkin' thing (anglebracket)strong(anglebracket) - sorry.)




Shouldn't the dash have been bolded, along with "sorry.)"?
Jan 11, 2011. 5:24 PMkelseymh says:
You need to close markup tags as well as open them, thus:

<strong>this text is bold</strong>

produces

this text is bold

(BTW, I got the literal angle brackets by using HTML entities -- ampersand lt semicolon and ampersand gt semicolon.)
Jan 11, 2011. 5:47 PMLithium Rain says:
Well, duh. :P I just hit "Post" too soon by accident.

The weird thing, though, is that it seems to have bolded everything after it anyway - but it didn't bold the dash, which was after it.

(Ah, thanks - I couldn't remember how to get them)
Jan 11, 2011. 4:49 PMLithium Rain says:
(Here's another inadvertent example of Bug no. 3)
Jan 15, 2011. 4:51 AMnutsandbolts_64 says:
Uh, I know it's off topic, but I can't post anything BUT comments here. Yes, I am overemphasizing because I can't post a question or forum topic (and the like) so I have no other choice but to post a comment somewhere on the bugs section.
Jan 15, 2011. 5:34 AMKiteman says:
I'll pass this on for you.
Jan 15, 2011. 10:58 PMnutsandbolts_64 says:
Much appreciated!
Jan 15, 2011. 4:38 AMKiteman says:
So...

Is this topic now redundant?

Or is it lying on the slab, waiting for the Dev Team to poke at its innards?

Jan 15, 2011. 9:45 AMKiteman says:
Oh, it's...

...a zombie topic!
Jan 14, 2011. 11:23 AMChrysN says:
I found an interesting effect of this bug. This morning when I checked out my You page it said that There have been 1548 comments on your instructables, forum topics, and/or your Orangeboard. Comment 1548 was made on my forum topic. http://www.instructables.com/community/Instructables-Drawing-Contest-with-Grand-Prize-of-/.
When I replied to this comment and went back to my You page it said that I had 1547 comments and the one that I had replied to has disappeared.  Now I have an orphaned reply on the forum.
Jan 14, 2011. 4:11 PMChrysN says:
It's okay now the comment came back!
Jan 14, 2011. 12:00 PMostomesto says:
yea i know about the unablity to post topics bug. I had to find the most popular topic in here and comment since I couldn't post a new one. and this was the most popular. but when ever i try to preview a new topic it wont let me. I have lost so much typing trying to get it to work. I was trying to spark popularity of my question I asked that INCLUDES A FREE PATCH TO THE PERSON WITH BEST IDEA. so click on my profile and go to questions and you will see it. i need people to know wbout it thats why i included the free patch.
Jan 11, 2011. 4:09 PMkelseymh says:

FIRST BUG



Take a look at the featured comment thread which starts with my initial comment. Caitlinsdads' reply, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" (Jan 11, 2011. 2:21 PM) was a direct response to my comment at 2:12 pm.

The order of comments has been scrambled by the sticky tag. Specifically, the entire subthread is now ordered strictly chronologically, rather than threadwise.

Jan 13, 2011. 1:45 PMkelseymh says:
If you do that, make *sure* you do a hard reload each time. Changing the flag does not cause the page to be reloaded.
Jan 13, 2011. 2:15 PMkelseymh says:
Perfect! And you can see exactly what happens. When the top-level comment gets stickied, my reply, made at 2:12 pm percolates upward from being below the entire Kiteman thread, to being adjacent to Kiteman's own 2:12 pm reply.
Jan 13, 2011. 11:32 AMkelseymh says:

The Next/Prev Bug is Alive!


With 107 comments in place, I confirm the next/prev bug is operating, and I think I've even figured it out (see the end of this post). I'm viewing this topic "sorted by active" (the default).

The last comment on the first page (1-100) is mine from 11 Jan at 5:50 pm (first image below).

On the same page, Matt's thread beginning "This is going to be totally Awesome!" appears about halfway down the page (second image below).

But then, following the next >> link shows Matt's thread again, this time claiming it's comment #101 (third image below).

And I think I see why! Notice in that third image, the "sort by:" flag has changed to newest (instead of active). The URL for the next >> button has "sort=NEWEST" hardwired in. I believe that the code should be set up to pass the user's same sorting request into the next and previous buttons as is currently displayed.

Jan 13, 2011. 12:00 PMkelseymh says:
The sorting option can be confusing, but it is also useful. The "active" sort option apparently puts the threads in chronological order according to the top-level comment. The "newest" sort option puts the threads in reverse chronological order according to the most recent comment found anywhere in each thread. The "oldest" option is the inverse of "newest."
Jan 13, 2011. 11:57 AMkelseymh says:
Hi, Matt. For the reply-to-yourself issue, see my 12 Jan 2011 2:01 pm comment. I think it's because the actions with the comment entry box use JS to dynamically modify the local page, rather than fetching an updated version from the server. Please pass on to Rachel that those dynamic updates are apparently inconsistent with what the server "would have generated," leading to the bugs we see.
Jan 13, 2011. 12:01 PMkelseymh says:
Dude, you make it so easy :-) The correct reply, of course, is "They shouldn't be too hard to find..."
Jan 12, 2011. 3:06 PMShadowman39 says:
So, all we do is post comments and reply to them?
Jan 12, 2011. 5:03 PMkelseymh says:
Yes. Did you follow the link Matt included in the topic text, to see the bug that is being investigated here? You can also read my sticky comment (above) for the list of other comment-related bugs I knew about at the start of this thread; and you can scan through some of the comments to see bugs people have observed while posting.
Jan 12, 2011. 6:24 PMShadowman39 says:
Yep, I've had that bug for a long time now (the one with the next/previous pages).
Jan 12, 2011. 12:24 PMLithium Rain says:
Can't seem to reproduce bugs, but let's get the count up to 100 and break the "next" button!!
Jan 12, 2011. 2:24 PMKiteman says:
92
Jan 12, 2011. 2:25 PMKiteman says:
(Refresh) 93
Jan 12, 2011. 1:58 PMkelseymh says:
We're at 88 comments, now.
Jan 12, 2011. 2:01 PMkelseymh says:
Ah, ha! I just reproduced the "can't reply to myself" bug which LiRa mentioned. If you write a new top-level comment, and hit the [post comment] button, then when the page comes back the JS hiding behind the REPLY link doesn't work.

I suspect that the posting action doesn't actually regenerate the page with a server-side query, but rather just modifies the local HTML cache with the new comment block (assuming that's possible with HTML4). Note also that the regenerated page has the same "nesting level" bug for which Matt posted pictures.

Doing an immediate refresh takes care of it, and REPLY works fine.
Jan 11, 2011. 2:59 PMKiteman says:
Speaking of bugs, I made this little vibrobot at the last UK Meet.

I was going to use the toothbrush bristles as legs, but I accidentally hot-glued them into a large blob.

Fortunately, I'd found a toy tyre on the pavement just an hour before, and it was still in my pocket.

Jan 12, 2011. 11:20 AMLithium Rain says:
Why is it called a vicrobot - does it move by vibrating?
Jan 12, 2011. 1:02 PMKiteman says:
The blue wiggly bit, the battery and the switch all came from an electric toothbrush.
Jan 12, 2011. 11:54 AMkelseymh says:
Jan 11, 2011. 4:34 PMLithium Rain says:
I love that you just pick up random stuff, too! :D
Jan 12, 2011. 5:43 AMKiteman says:
The best thing that ever happens to any boy is the discovery of pockets.

Beats a handbag any day of the week.

Jan 12, 2011. 9:21 AMLithium Rain says:
Couldn't agree more - that's why I refuse to carry one. :p
Jan 11, 2011. 3:04 PMkelseymh says:
It looks like it walked backward into oblivion ;-)
Jan 11, 2011. 3:09 PMKiteman says:
It lives on top of the computer on my lab desk at school, to amuse passing grown-ups with nothing better to do.

Jan 11, 2011. 3:14 PMKiteman says:
Ohh, this would be nice to own...
Jan 12, 2011. 11:20 AMLithium Rain says:
>blows into microphone<
Jan 12, 2011. 11:13 AMLithium Rain says:
What is it?
Jan 12, 2011. 1:01 PMKiteman says:
It's a watchmaker's lathe - you turn the big wheel by hand, and work your piece on the shaft to the left (see the strings?) with your other.

Jan 12, 2011. 1:24 PMLithium Rain says:
Wow, nice!
Jan 11, 2011. 1:33 PMLithium Rain says:
Haha, everywhere you go is a party, eh?
Jan 12, 2011. 5:46 AMKiteman says:
LOL, good job the grammar Nazis aren't on this thread...

Oops.
Jan 12, 2011. 11:14 AMLithium Rain says:
>crash<
Jan 11, 2011. 1:55 PMkelseymh says:
As Ken Griffey, Jr., once said (on The Simpsons), "It's like there's a party in my mouth, and everyone's invited!"
Jan 11, 2011. 2:17 PMKiteman says:
I bet nobody stays to help clear up the mess afterwards, though!
Jan 11, 2011. 3:35 PMKiteman says:
It's getting late - I wonder how long this topic will be when I look tomorrow?
Jan 12, 2011. 8:48 AMkelseymh says:
Long, but not long enough. I believe the server is configured to split pages at 100 comments, and this thread only had 66 this morning.
Jan 12, 2011. 9:48 AMKiteman says:
This makes seventy.
Jan 11, 2011. 3:02 PMKiteman says:
Oh! They've rescued Bond!
Jan 12, 2011. 5:47 AMKiteman says:
Sorry about that. Here you go:

A new James Bond film has been given the go-ahead and is due to be released on 9 November 2012, film studio MGM and EON Productions have announced.

Producers Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli and MGM said the 23rd Bond would go into production in late 2011.

The latest 007 adventure, starring Daniel Craig for the third time, will be directed by Oscar winner Sam Mendes.

The franchise had been on hold amid financial troubles, with MGM filing for bankruptcy protection last November.

A rescue deal and restructuring plan put US firm Spyglass Entertainment at the helm of MGM, which had struggled due to several box office flops and a DVD sales slump.

Work on the 23rd film was suspended in April 2010 because of uncertainty over the company's future.

James Bond is one of the longest running franchises in film history.

Its return marks a four-year gap since Bond's last outing in 2008's Quantum of Solace.

Daniel Craig - who made his Bond debut in Casino Royale in 2006 - is the sixth actor to play the British secret agent in the official Bond series.

Sir Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Sir Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan preceded him in the iconic role.

Craig's debut, in Casino Royale, was the most successful instalment in the franchise's 48-year history, taking $594m (£385m) at the global box office.

The latest Bond screenplay has been written by Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and John Logan.
Jan 11, 2011. 1:33 PMLithium Rain says:
Ew, rollie-pollies.
Jan 11, 2011. 4:50 PMLithium Rain says:
Nice!
Jan 11, 2011. 2:36 PMKiteman says:
"giant isopods gorge themselves to the point of compromising their locomotive ability."

Ewww
Jan 11, 2011. 1:50 PMkelseymh says:
That picture looks more like an unroly-poly to me :-) And how come you're being such a pill(bug)? :-D
Jan 11, 2011. 2:22 PMcaitlinsdad says:
yeah, that's my department. :P
Jan 11, 2011. 2:39 PMKiteman says:
I just remembered - the last topic I saw this happen to had a lot of photos...

Look what my Science clubbers made!
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