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Basic Assault Weapon *updated with inside pictures for building*

Maybe some of you saw my video on youtube. I decided I'd mod the gun a little and maybe think about posting it if you guys think it's post-worthy. And by post-worthy I mean would you build it? Anyways on to the details.
This is a basic weapon that is mostly compact and pretty reliable. There are no big special features other than the magazine which is obviously removable and has an internal pusher, a roof, and it can be top loaded. With a quick change of pieces you could technically top load the magazine while it is in the gun though it may be a little tricky. The magazines slide right in and should stay put. I shaked it my hardest and it wouldn't fall out. Removing it is pretty simple. You just need to pop both sides individually.
As you can see I ran low on pieces so I just used red rods for the stock. You can store an extra magazine in it like in the picture. Of course I put in a pin guide. The handle is average. I wasn't too concerned with it as people can mod it freely. The trigger was made to block farther back so that the gun wouldn't have to be a unit longer to get max power. Ranges with the rubber bands placed as shown were about 9 meters or 27 feet with the mag full. I suspect increased ranges as the magazine empties. It doesn't have a turret, bolt, or shells so I don't know if you consider that good enough or not.


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Element Force says: Jun 24, 2012. 1:51 PM
brocken pices?
TheDunkis (author) says: Jun 25, 2012. 9:33 AM
Not any that I remembered, but I tend to add any naturally broken pieces I have in where possible, though they aren't usually required.
Element Force says: Jun 26, 2012. 4:59 PM
Ok, thaks!
Red-Dragon says: May 30, 2011. 6:52 AM
nice rifle, dunno if i gonna make it cause bad pictures of the trigger mech :P still cool
TheDunkis (author) says: May 30, 2011. 8:38 PM
Search it up, someone else posted it for me.
Red-Dragon says: May 31, 2011. 7:14 AM
lol I've make it but not from instructables ( for guys how dont know how to knex -.-)
travw says: Dec 20, 2009. 7:47 PM
TheDunkis (author) says: Dec 19, 2009. 1:32 PM
Would someone be willing to post this for me? PM if you can.
travw says: Dec 19, 2009. 10:09 PM
Boom. Posted.
DJ Radio says: Dec 19, 2009. 5:25 PM
PM'd.
travw says: Dec 19, 2009. 6:56 PM
Already taken care of.
GrandeSwag says: Nov 17, 2009. 9:47 PM
I made it. I like it a lot, aside from it's poor range. The mags work nicely and the handle is pretty comfortable. I like the pin guide as well. I had to mod the trigger because when I would pull it, the top part of the mech would just bend - its possible that I may have built that part incorrectly. The gun has a nice look to it and it's very clean. Nicely done.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 18, 2009. 5:31 AM
Thanks a plenty!
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 1:09 PM
 Trigger mod...Led to becoming a Barrett m107 .50 cal. Not finished yet, but close. As soon as I made the mags, I just thought .50 cal. Pictured with the family. What do you think?
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TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 19, 2009. 2:09 PM
dark picture is dark. Looking awesome so far though from what I can see. You going to finish it soon? Starting a collection of real firearm based weapons?
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 2:58 PM
 Yeah, sorry about that. Sadly, the FAMAS had to be taken apart for green rods. The gun will be finished very soon.
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 6:36 PM
 
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DJ Radio says: Nov 19, 2009. 7:39 PM
You must post.
silentassasin21 says: Nov 20, 2009. 8:45 PM
I could post it i made it it gets better range that td's gun and i made a better scope
silentassasin21 says: Nov 20, 2009. 8:50 PM
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DJ Radio says: Nov 21, 2009. 8:44 AM
POOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 9:09 PM
Took it apart.
DJ Radio says: Nov 20, 2009. 1:08 PM
That was fast....
GrandeSwag says: Nov 20, 2009. 1:54 PM
 Ball machine demands pieces.
DJ Radio says: Nov 20, 2009. 2:29 PM
Oh....  Do you ever participate in knex wars?
travw says: Nov 20, 2009. 11:55 AM
ALREADY?!?
travw says: Nov 19, 2009. 1:26 PM
Pretty cool! Is the ram in between to rails? I can't quite tell from the picture.
travw says: Nov 19, 2009. 1:33 PM
Excuse me. "Between two rails?"
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 1:57 PM
Depends what you call a rail...Pin has the original guide, and a guide for the charging handle. I can get a better picture later.
travw says: Nov 19, 2009. 2:02 PM
I was thinking something like on the original shotbow, but on top and bottom.

GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 3:02 PM
 Side view and bottom view.
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travw says: Nov 19, 2009. 3:11 PM
Oh, ok.
GrandeSwag says: Nov 19, 2009. 6:36 PM
 
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~KGB~ says: Nov 18, 2009. 11:16 AM
done!! i made some small mods. its a fantastic gun! ill show some pics later...
smilee says: Nov 19, 2009. 4:48 PM
NAO!
~KGB~ says: Nov 19, 2009. 11:50 PM
broke the gun...
dsman195276 says: Nov 18, 2009. 3:51 PM
I like it, it has a nice look to it.
dutchwarlord says: Nov 17, 2009. 10:51 PM
thanks man
i'm going to build it someday
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 15, 2009. 4:17 PM
Alright well excuse the poor quality but at least you decently skilled K'nexers should be able to build it now. I'm going to think about making a replica now. Or at least half of one and having someone else finish the rest.
DJ Radio says: Nov 17, 2009. 2:31 PM
This coming from the guy who just criticized my new ible for having bad pics.

(How does it feel now?)
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 17, 2009. 3:28 PM
Lol don't talk to me about being a hypocrite or I swear I will get all up in your face about it. See the thing is, mine don't suck completely though. The second new one is the only one that's pretty blurry. The rest are just average. There was a couple of yours that actually hurt to look at. But whatever just lay off the subject. We won't accomplish anything by bickering over it.
DJ Radio says: Nov 17, 2009. 8:05 PM
Lol fine, I was trying to make you see how it feels.  I think there was only 1 bad picture in actuality. 
DJ Radio says: Nov 15, 2009. 4:30 PM
Why not just post it?
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 15, 2009. 5:57 PM
Because I didn't have the patience to take more photos of a rather simple gun. I liked the magazine and that was about it. The rest of the gun wasn't too impressive so better yet why don't those of you with more pieces build the mag and just use it in a better gun. Anyways Trauts and I working on a replica/ true bolt action (not a sniper rifle though) which should be a real treat for you guys. It's a pretty cool gun that I'm sure most of you guys haven't seen so I'm going to keep it secret until we're mostly finished.
DJ Radio says: Nov 15, 2009. 6:00 PM
Cool!  I just posted something myself.
Hiyadudez says: Nov 16, 2009. 10:17 AM
Hey, if I can build this from the pictures, can I have permission to post?
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 16, 2009. 1:14 PM
Sure go ahead.
~KGB~ says: Nov 15, 2009. 11:41 PM
finally! lol
~KGB~ says: Nov 13, 2009. 9:43 AM
would you be able to post in now???
~Aeronous~ says: Nov 12, 2009. 7:54 PM
SWEEEEEET!!!!!! I say post it, but be sure to put the parts list on, wait scratch that POST IT now seriously that looks so cool. would it be possible to make the mag bigger? 5*s
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 12, 2009. 8:05 PM
Yes you can easily expand the mag as long as you keep the same pattern going.
~Aeronous~ says: Nov 12, 2009. 8:07 PM

kewl. can you post this?

TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 13, 2009. 5:25 AM
As long as you don't go posting anymore lyrics in my forum topic...
~Aeronous~ says: Nov 12, 2009. 8:10 PM
WE ARE THE WORLD
WE ARE THE CHILDREN,
WE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY
SO LETS START GIVING.
THEIRS A CHOICE WERE MAKING
WERE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES
AND ITS TRUE WE'LL MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY, JUST YOU AND ME,
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
WE ARE THE WORLD
WE ARE THE CHILDREN,
WE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY
SO LETS START GIVING.
THEIRS A CHOICE WERE MAKING
WERE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES
AND ITS TRUE WE'LL MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY, JUST YOU AND ME
WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DJ Radio says: Nov 12, 2009. 3:03 PM
Ingenious mag locking mech you have... I probably wouldn't have thought of that lol.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 12, 2009. 4:35 PM
Actually I forgot to mention it was inspired from SK's old magazine for his RBG. But yeah I just decided to adapt it for a bigger magazine.
DJ Radio says: Nov 12, 2009. 4:43 PM
Oh ok.
sprout_less says: Nov 12, 2009. 4:39 PM
 post it, I also like how the mag fits into the stock.
~KGB~ says: Nov 12, 2009. 2:48 PM
plz post by tomoro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! plz! lol!
travw says: Nov 11, 2009. 12:35 AM
Well, I made it... I do like it, but I wouldn't use it as a primary.
I'm still gonna stick to a BR8+ratchet mod, or a ZBA.
Or my new singleshot.
Seleziona says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:27 PM
 new slingshot?
travw says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:40 PM
No. Ramrod.
Seleziona says: Nov 11, 2009. 6:23 PM
 ahhhhh...
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 11, 2009. 5:21 AM
That's fine. As I said the range probably wouldn't please enough of you. I was originally going to use this magazine for like a bolt action or something but the way it clips in would make it difficult. You sure you built every little thing right? The pin guide for example would probably slow it down dramatically if not put in right.
travw says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:03 PM
Suprisingly, I actually got a better range than you. Not sure why. I got like 40somethin' feet. And yeah, I'm pretty sure I got it right, other than the pin guide. I just tossed a filler one in there.
DJ Radio says: Nov 12, 2009. 3:02 PM
You have better bands than he does.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:25 PM
Well there are a number of factors like the strength of your mag pusher band, the freshness of your pin bands, and stuff like that. As I've said before, I didn't take an exact measurement. I just wanted to give people an idea of how far it would go. I didn't think people would go out and measure 39 feet exactly on their floor to see if that was satisfactory. But yeah is that decent enough? I was wondering if it could at least keep up with the turrets, bolt actions, and shelled ammo we use normally for war weapons.
travw says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:27 PM
I think range-wise, it'd hold it's own.
~KGB~ says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:43 PM
will it be done by the weekend???
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:46 PM
Yes.
~KGB~ says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:57 PM
~KGB~ says: Nov 11, 2009. 1:47 PM
friday afternoon???
DJ Radio says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:00 PM
Looks decent.  The stock could be better as in filled up.  I know the mag kinda does that, but still.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:11 PM
Lol you're get funnier every day Mr. OMGZ piece efficiency FTW!!. Yeah I know that. I ran out of pieces. You can just as easily fill it in with yellow connectors. It takes 12 in total along with 22 green rods and 8 white rods to do so. I didn't have enough yellows or green rods. It was either the stock or the front of the gun. You can fill in both if you build it. Kthxbi
DJ Radio says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:17 PM
I'm not for piece efficiency like I was, say, a year ago.  I got a shipment that doubled my knex, and I'm ordering more knex, so I might have enough for 3 guns (depending on what 3 guns I build).  Notice how much less part efficient I get with every passing build.

It wouldn't take a lot of parts to fill it up anyways.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:18 PM
So long as people know they can fill it up it's alright. It's not just my lack of knowledge on how to do so. I would if I could in other words.
DJ Radio says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:24 PM
Ok.  I was always wondering how you illusioned other knexers to believe that you had more knex then you really had when you even admitted it.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 9, 2009. 1:30 PM
lolwut?
Well what sucks is that I broke around 6+ yellow connectors and lost quite a few green rods. What sucks even more...well sort of it's actually kind of good is that I have more k'nex literally floating around in my buckets of old toys. I'm far too lazy to go picking toys out of each bucket and looking for all the pieces to my old K'nex set.
DJ Radio says: Nov 11, 2009. 9:11 AM
Yesterday, I was going "HOLEH S**T, I HAZ MOAR KNEX THAN TD".

Now you know what to do if you get bored.  Find the knex.
lioneatr says: Nov 10, 2009. 4:53 PM
I believe this is based off of ZKAR? 
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:09 PM
While it is similar I didn't build it with the ZKAR in mind. The yellow connector based main body is pretty much standard now as it's structurally stronger than other designs. The magazine goes were the magazine needs to go. The trigger has the same concept only because that's what makes it work the best. The handle was just what I built off the top of my head. The handle to stock connection was to make the stock sturdier. Actually the handle to stock area was made before the ZKAR and that just made it popular.
Point is I couldn't have made it much different looking without sacraficing function or making it look horrible.
lioneatr says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:11 PM
 looks like someone got mad..............
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 10, 2009. 6:36 PM
I love people who think they can judge me.
lioneatr says: Nov 11, 2009. 5:59 AM
 thanks!
DJ Radio says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:00 PM
I believe he doesn't care?
lioneatr says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:07 PM
 yeah but why! 
travw says: Nov 10, 2009. 11:36 PM
Dang. I can't figure out the pin guide connection. Think you could provide us with just that picture? It's a wierd connection...
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 11, 2009. 5:17 AM
That's pretty simple. I'll rip the gun open later today.
Fred the Penguin says: Nov 10, 2009. 7:12 PM
GRAMMER = FAIL

"I shaked it my hardest"

don't you mean shook?

Anyways it looks great. Go for the post.
travw says: Nov 10, 2009. 10:06 PM
SPELLENG = PHALE

"GRAMMER"

Don't you mean "GRAMMAR"?

Anyways, stop spelling it that way. Go for the spellcheck.
Fred the Penguin says: Nov 10, 2009. 11:48 PM
I wondered if someone would spot that, I found it just after pressing post.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 10, 2009. 7:52 PM
Excuse my one mistake. Even not I am perfect. Lol now why don't you go commenting to every other person who makes probably 5 more mistakes than I do?
Yeah I'll see if I can post it tomorrow. I might just rip off the side of it and open the magazine up and take pictures of those though. It's such a simple gun that you guys should be able to build off the internals.
Fred the Penguin says: Nov 10, 2009. 11:46 PM
sweet, I may actually build
loyamann123 says: Nov 10, 2009. 6:20 PM
I really think you should post this.
If you cant can you please send me a couple extra pictures.
I love this gun
I looks sortof like the framas
travw says: Nov 10, 2009. 3:23 PM
Just caught this: " 9 meters or 27 feet"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
DJ Radio says: Nov 10, 2009. 4:29 PM
He haz weak bands.
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 10, 2009. 4:23 PM
Is that pretty bad? That's just with these rubber bands. It's also around the distance that I suspect I would be standing from someone. Check the pande videos. I didn't watch all of it but I don't remember seeing too many instances where people were farther away than like 35' and had a successful hit. It's far enough to fight in my house anyways.
travw says: Nov 10, 2009. 4:30 PM
Nonono. You misunderstand me silly boi.
I meant 9 meters isn't 27 feet. I agree on the pande videos. And yeah, I'd probably load up a lot of rubberbands. Compared to you anyway.
If you used tape instead of rubberbands on your rams, you could probably add more...
TheDunkis (author) says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:30 PM
It's about what it is. I know meters are not exactly the same as yards but I wanted a measurement in feet and one in metric so everyone would understand. 27/3= 9 right? I just needed a close number so that people would have an idea of how far it shot. If I wanted it to be precise I would have measured inches and used a conversion formula.
And really whats the difference? It withstands more if anything. The difference if anything is that there is a little more give so pieces have a slight less chance of breaking.
travw says: Nov 10, 2009. 5:48 PM
I was mostly joking. It's not a big deal.

And that's what's bad about using bands. They allow the pieces too much give, and then they can separate enough to let the ram slip out. Tape won't. Well, not as easily.
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