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Contest deadlines in official rules

Hi,
As I recently have started participating and judging in contests, there's a little thing I noticed and would like to point out.
More often than not, the deadline section of contests states something like this:
...no later than 11:59 p.m. PT on October 20, 2014 /7:59am GMT on October 20, 2014
What I'd like to point out, is that 11:59 PT is the next, not the same day in UTC, therefore it should be:
...no later than 11:59 p.m. PT on October 20, 2014 /7:59am GMT on October 21, 2014
Wouldn't even bother you with this, but it is recurring, so why not get it in tact?
Also, fix the deadline dates in leatherworking contest rules, they're a bit mixed up.
One more thing is the timer contests have. It obviously runs using local time of the person looking at it, it's ok for a person in PT, but for me it writes that the contest is closed 10 hours before it actually is. Not a big deal, since it's still possible to enter it during that period, just something to think about.

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I was just thinking about this myself, so I will add a comment here.

I don't know about the universal time thing, but it really should not say that it closes at 11:59 Pacific Time, because this is not true. I have had last minute entries rejected because I posted them after 11:59 Eastern. Once it hits midnight wherever you are, it automatically shows your Instructable as being posted on the next day. And I was told there is nothing that can be done to fix this, so the rules really should be changed to reflect that.

Raitis (author)  ThisIsMyNameOK1 year ago

Interesting, you should've had an extra 3 hours to post after 11:59.

I have previously posted 'ibles right before deadline in PT, while here in Europe it was actually a little less than 10AM. While the contest page shows them as closed already, it is not actually the case and entries are possible.

If what you are saying is true, you could actually rig it to win an extra hour or two - just set a local time of your machine to a timezone further east than the UTC -8 which is PT and there you go - an extended entry time. But that is not the case as far as I know.

Hmm... I didn't think of it that way. But no, I don't think that is the case. I'm sure they are able to tell somehow where it was posted from and what the time was...

Now I'm wondering if I had the time set wrong on my device. That could explain it. I remember having trouble with setting the time and date on my iPad for awhile, it kept wanting to put me in the wrong time zone, no matter how many times I reset it. It might have been that it was around the same time that I tried to enter the contest.

Or it might have been from playing Candy Crush. I used to set it ahead to get extra lives without having to wait... Which is really sad and pathetic when I look back on it now. Thank goodness I found something better to do with my time.

In the case you describe, you should have contacted HQ by email to get it straightened out. However, it is possible that the contest sponsors wanted the event to run to their own time zone (in which case the rules would have said that).

I did send an email inquiring as to why it was not accepted. I was told that there was nothing that could be done about it. I never had a chance of winning anyway, so it really didn't make any difference.

wilgubeast2 years ago

Time zones are hard.

To be frank, this kind of niggling detail in the legalese is something we try to ignore as far as is legally possible when we build the contests. We just want to give you cool tools and cameras so you can make more great projects. But you're right! We should fix it for clarity and precision.

Raitis (author)  wilgubeast2 years ago

It's not like I had an issue with that, but after a period in my life when I was organizing some events I understood that some people will use gaps in legalese, especially if they don't like something. So just figured I'd point it out so you can further concentrate on giving us cool stuff knowing that there are less gaps in the legalese now. Keep up the amazing work you're doing!