Contingency Plan
As part of my disaster readiness planning, I have given the scenario of a global economic meltdown much consideration. To this end I have compiled a thorough step-by-step contingency plan. I am happy to now be able to make this guide actionable and will be sharing all of this information as an Instructable shortly.
How about you? Have you done any preparation? Have you given the matter any forethought?
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Oct 16, 2008. 2:50 PMAnarchistAsian
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put all your money in a chinese bank, and watch your money inflate....
...making money like that is quite common, and it really can screw up the economy if somebody pulls out of a certain country. Meh, atleast you get some cheap money out of it.
curse u! I wanted to be the last one to reply for this conversation to you, but alas, nay, I hath been denied once again, of the love that I deserve.
...blame my evil english teacher teaching us about stupid Sakespeare and his play, "A Mid Summer Night's Dream
...blame my evil english teacher teaching us about stupid Sakespeare and his play, "A Mid Summer Night's Dream
Oct 29, 2008. 3:03 PMAnarchistAsian
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ha ha ermm... only if you want... i promise, i'll give you the last word, if you want. :P
lolz. It's k, I don't mind, won't keep me from trying though! *implodes*
Oct 16, 2008. 4:42 PMnerdologist
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I have some great kitchen tips on baking with children. They taste excellent. So tender.
Hehe, roast children, with fingers for dessert. Well u did say cooking with children!
Oct 17, 2008. 8:16 AMnerdologist
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That's what I implied. Read _A Modest Proposal_ by Jonathan Swift if you haven't already. :)
Oct 17, 2008. 8:29 AMnerdologist
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...whoah, thats amazing cuz i thought u just had ur wording slightly mixed up and made a joke. then I worked out that you had already implied what I had made a joke of. Seeing this, I threw myself off a cliff, caught myself before I was brutally killed and then proceeded to eat myself starting at the stomach before I worked out the food would just fall out every where, having nowhere to go. BTW the modest proposal was a good proposal.
Oct 24, 2008. 8:48 AMnerdologist
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I wasn't trying to inflict social anxiety on you. I was excited that somebody understood my humor. So where is this cliff? I think I will collect your remains for a stew that I have been planning...
Kryptonite, at least in the Superman series, was green.....nerdologist was going to collect Kryptonite's remains and make stew..... ;-)
Oh, I get it. But "Whatchagot" still applies. When you don't have "real" stew ingredients, you go with what you've got (whatchagot). I think leftover Kryptonite would go nicely with... let's see...(looks in cupboard)... sardines, pork n' beans, two lifesavers, and dandelion greens.
Hmm, leave out the kryptonite, and the lifesavers, and you have a real nice stew there :-)
They were what you mentioned....you don't have to put everything you own into the stew LOL
Why have I become the subject of a thread in a comment about the economy crashing, and being talked about to be put in a STEW!?!?! Hmm, when you're done cooking can you let me try some of myself? And you leave those lifesavers alone! They're mine!
something about the branch of the thread where you toss yourself off a cliff or something? I went, um, downhill from there ;-)
Rhetorical question. Oh well, I'm not complaining. And where's those lifesavers!?!
So, I have forgotten if I asked this already I had wanted to, but now can't find the post, so maybe I forgot but these instructables should be on individual projects and not a conglomeration of small ones? Or doesn't it matter?
Oct 24, 2008. 11:45 AMinkstainedheart
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I think so long as the tips/steps are somehow related, it should be okay. I mean, who's going to deny steps on how to save money?
Oct 17, 2008. 7:50 AMinkstainedheart
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Just check out what people did during WWII. Recycling glass and plastic for cash, growing "victory" gardens for extra food/spices. A lot of people already using carpool systems or are looking at alternate transportation methods.
Oct 23, 2008. 11:11 PMmunineye
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I have to agree here. There are plenty of older books on how to live frugally in tough times, or hey, go talk to a family member who lived back then and knew how to save money. They'll appreciate the company and interest, and you'll get useful suggestions. I have to say victory gardens are probably my favorite of the ideas, but then I'm a green thumb anyway.
Ehh... if I'm still in the house I am in, I'd work my way to my grandfather on me mother's side... he has enough weaponry to outfit a militia, + a farm so we shan't starve. Or I'll go join Nacho & Skunk's survival colony....
I'd siphon the gas out of a few neighbor's cars and take it with me on a nice long drive to NachoMahma's house. He has guns.
I do agree, but I'll be sure to get my grandad's M1, Sten submachinegun, Luger, and other assorted firearms he says he's leaving to me...
. Bring some .223 hollow points with ya. I've got plenty of FMJs for plinking, but don't usually keep hunting rounds. A couple of boxes of 9mm wouldn't hurt.
Laws of warfare prohibit hollow points. (Hague Convention)
Oct 17, 2008. 1:51 PMtech-king
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can i come too? ill bring my ginormus fishing supplies crates
. Sure. Lots of rivers and lakes around here. Fishing is pretty boring to me, but it might be more interesting if I'm hungry.
. M-80's (the real ones, not those overgrown firecrackers they sell nowadays) are even more fun. . Guess I got a little bit of Redneck in me, too. heehee . . "You gonna fish or arrest me?"
Oct 18, 2008. 8:12 AMbumpus
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I can't ever seem to find real M-80's nowadays, so I usually make my own.
"If you can't buy it, make it!"
"If you can't buy it, make it!"
. I helped a guy put one together, but didn't feel it was worth getting caught even being in the same county when he used it. I may be crazy, but I ain't stoopid.
. The only time I used M-80's was to blast a few carp out of a strip mine pit about 30 years ago. Dumb kid having fun blowing stuff up.
. It is great fun to shoot the .223 under a turtle on top of the water and watch him do flips. Did that a few times at my buddy's pond and then we decided the concussion probably wasn't good for them.
. The only time I used M-80's was to blast a few carp out of a strip mine pit about 30 years ago. Dumb kid having fun blowing stuff up.
. It is great fun to shoot the .223 under a turtle on top of the water and watch him do flips. Did that a few times at my buddy's pond and then we decided the concussion probably wasn't good for them.
You can stop at my place on the way (I'm not too far from Nacho), and spend a week in the "survival bus"!
Cool! Hmmmm.... NachoMahma and Skunkbait Present: Survival Colony of Assorted Persons Count me in!
I'm hoping to do an ible on how to make a "Skoolie". It's quite a job, but the finished product is a HEAVY DUTY recreational vehicle (for about $2000).
I'll post 'em in a couple of days, I'm hardly ever home (during daylight) these days.
Check out my forum in Random Fun. It's called "Name this Bus".
I'll try. One is the survival bus, th other is the "storage bus".
Yeah, they both run and drive, but I don't have them insured, so they stay on my property.
Notice the gas can strapped to the front? That's the gas tank! Feeds directly to the carb.
I have an awesome ible coming up which might help in the event of a bank collapse...
Oct 17, 2008. 4:44 PMBig Bwana
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Hide in the Vault the roofs are reinforced to stop people from getting in .... <>
. I really don't see it getting that bad. Things will be difficult for a while, but I don't see a catastrophe on the horizon. . Unless things get real bad, I'm in pretty good shape. My house and cars are paid for, so they can't be repossessed. I pay off my credit cards every month, so I don't have to worry about high interest rates (I just use them so I don't have to carry around cash). . If it gets bad enough that I can't afford natural gas, I live in the middle of several million acres of forest and the Winters don't usually get that cold. It would be difficult to get by without electricity, but I think I could manage. . As long as I have water and food (looks like I have W'burg and tech-king to help with any hunting/fishing required and there's plenty of game around here), I should be OK.
I'm with you on this one-as long as there's water and enough food of any type not to starve, I'm good.
Oct 17, 2008. 2:49 PMBig Bwana
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Global Economic meltdown, Money is only printed paper, just like the stuff that comes out of a laser printer only it's more colourful... What's the worry ?? If I dropped you in the arctic during winter and said I'll pick you up in a three days and I took your coat and gave you a $1,000,000 in paper bills and a Bic lighter how much money would you come home with ?? The earth is not going to split in two the sky won't turn green and cats won't fall from the sky..... Sure people might have to learn how to grow some food (( but this is only because corporate greed hasn't been paying the farmers for years )) and people might have to learn how to trade and barter (( honestly it's a very simple system, even walmart will do this if you ask the right manager )) You want to see a meltdown go look at Zimbabwe economy inflation is in the milllions of percent, there money is worth less then charmin pound for pound... but it's not the end of the world..............
Well, you might be able to burn it, but you still can't eat money. The economy isn't going to go from a commodity-based capitalist model to a trade and barter system overnight (if it ever happens at all). In a worst case scenario, the infrastructure will collapse over a period of time due to lack of capital and people will start to panic when food is not delivered into the densely populated urban centers. At that point, trade and barter may become the dominant means of exchange, but there will be very little worthwhile to trade and barter with. Zimbabwe is a good example of how worthless currency can destabilize a nation because it is a country with the agricultural means to be somewhat self-supportive. Although, thanks to "land reform" and economic inflation, there is rampant food shortages and widespread instability throughout the country. A global economic depression will have some very real immediate effects on us all. Unemployment is going to go up. Inflation will go up. Wages will stagnate. Credit card spending limits will be decreased. It will be harder to get loans from the bank. The price of food will go up. Actually, the price of most everything will go up. Healthcare will become even more expensive and harder to get. Less people will buy homes because they will be unable to raise the initial capital and get the proper loans. More people will be renting and rent will go up for everyone... I mean, in some places we are starting to see a lot of this already. Fortunately, the value of the dollar hasn't taken a nosedive and last I checked (a few days ago), it's catching up the Euro again. In terms of our own economic recovery, that is probably a good sign.
Oct 17, 2008. 6:17 PMBig Bwana
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<> well it's high in fiber and low in fat ... but your right you can't eat it the ink and metal strip is probably toxic and that much fiber in your diet well you know ... I'm just trying to put it in perspective for people, after all it's only paper, but for some reason people will kill each other over it, and I've asked that question to other people and I never get an answer ((( I'd burn upto $333,333 dollars a day if need be ))) you can't put a price on life and money is nothing more then a tool..... And yes infrastructure will slowly start to fail, and I can see problems in large urban centers, however it won't be from no food being delivered, it will be from a shift in the type of foods being delivered, people will have to switch from an expensive largely animal protein type diet to cheaper mainly grain derived carbohydrate type diet, and right now on a good day most people don't even eat oatmeal porridge even for breakfast... It will be hard for most people... The government could step into this and regulate prices because if you look at $9 box of cereal like corn pops and then look at the commodities pricing you can see the farmers are only working for a fraction of a percent of the final cost of food and the government could actually insure two things, one the farmers are paid which will increase productivity, and two people can afford to eat, which will also increase productivity... If you look at most farmers they are getting older and older the average age is what 50 something, there is very few new people entering that industry because right now it's not a financially attractive industry, monsato has to get there cut for the hybrid corn, bayer has to get there cut for the chemicals you have to spray to get the yields, Exxon is getting there cut from both the fertilizers and fuels you use and John deer is collecting on the tractor,and the banks on the interest ... And with all this farmers can still feed North America right now.. The Government might have to regulate the selling of food products but Riots ... Nope... Also while there may not be any thing worth trading, if people got rid of there perfect lawns they honestly can grow enough food to feed themselves, and large masses of unemployed people can always trade labor, and skills there is thousands of skilled trades, even if they may not like this concept, I live in a farm based community and my neighbor grows enough food to feed about 5000 people for a year and he employs only a few people, and if times became real tough, similar to Africa , there would be more people working on the farm and less mechanization, oddly enough if you feed people they will stay and work you, don't even have to pay them..... It might be a real shock for people but it won't be the end of the world, ((( It has worked before in the past and he still has a few old bunk shacks for the crews that used to work for food and shelter )) And Zimbabwe's land reforms is the only reason there is food starvations you can't take large productive farms and split them up, and sell off the equipment and expect the same levels of production..... American healthcare well I can't speak about that as I live in Canada and I don't have to pay for health care, at all next year (( and it's only $44 a month right now or $88 for a family )) and I know you pay an arm and a leg if you break a finger down there, your government really needs to provide you free health care like most of the developed world already has.... (( after watching Sicko we can see just how good we have it up here, I goto the hospital and it costs me nothing and they don't load me in a taxi and ship me to a free hospital, it took the doctor less time to stitch my finger then it would take the taxi to show up <> ))
its not the lock of paper money its the riots, starvation and mass panic that follows
Oct 17, 2008. 7:54 AMSharku
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im pretty sure those people up north wont mind 1 more person in their tribe..... mmmmmmmmmmm roast bear.... polar bear....
Win the lottery? Actually, I don't think there's much I can do. I'm already saving for a pension, but pension funds depend on share prices. I can't influence those. I have no savings, but I have a mortgage I can afford as long as we have at least one and a half jobs between us. Our jobs are reasonably safe as long as there are children in need of education (as long as I get through the impending school closure without a hitch).
We have a three-tier system (primary-middle-high). The local authority has decided that two-tier is better (on totally bogus data), so they're closing the middle schools and expanding the primaries and highs. Guess what kind of school I work in?
Oct 17, 2008. 6:54 AMminus273degrees
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they tried doin that in our area didnt work though there was loads of pertitions but i think they just worked out how difficult it would be
Oct 17, 2008. 2:58 PMAnarchistAsian
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the amercian dream at it's best!
misleading innocent children
misleading innocent children
I think we should all just sleep through it. Except we probably wouldn't have to sleep for 5 million years.... Actually most likely I would reuse more stuff and go hunting. Or I would go hunting if I passed a hunters safety course.... But if it's everyone for themselves I suppose it wouldn't really matter if I had passed it or not....
Nice. DONT PANIC! A GUIDE FOR SURVIVING GLOBAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN, a book that every body needs! Personally I'd go buy a nice rifle, and a really good knife for boning animals and live out in the country.
Oct 16, 2008. 7:43 PMmondaymonkey
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americas meltdown has screwed everyone. Check mars out... apparently the sun is quite nice
Oct 16, 2008. 4:32 PMpebbles1
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we already give the kids handme downs ..i already quilt with leftover clothes etc..and swap stuff with freinds and use freecycle....buy the kids second hand toys etc...were ready .......id love to see awhole section of instructables about makeing things with the depression in mind entirely of leftovers......
Oct 16, 2008. 3:38 PMgeeker
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worse case scenario: i buy a tent and live off the land...tricky thing land is.
Oct 16, 2008. 3:07 PMecogeeko
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Buy up all those toys you could never budget for before the dollar value drops! (This may be more of a good excuse to go get that 50" LCD rather then sound economic advice ;)
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