Discriminatory hiring/racist/culturist/personalitist

I have been doing a lot of applications recently. I have a long gap in my work history since my last job. The jobs I am applying for our all low-wage nonskilled jobs such as cashier, stocker, low-level restaurant employee, etc. I have an open availability. The thing about the jobs that I'm applying for, is that ANYBODY could do them. To not have them be first come first serve, is discriminatory. How many years of experience do you need to give someone change or make a sandwich? Furthermore I have many years of experience doing those things. But they take a look at me, listen to me, size me up, and make a snap judgment that I would be a poor employee. I'm not saying that there snap judgment is wrong, but it is discriminatory.
               Some places I applied to are over equal opportunity employers, as in if you are a minority you will more likely be hired due to the company needing to meet a diversity quota. Im not saying that in the long run that isn't better for the world and equality, but in the short run it is incredibly discriminatory.
        When you think about it, employers are looking for certain traits in the people that they hire. Some of these traits are professionalism, punctuality, subservience/desire to follow orders, outgoingness, etc. These traits however are not universally considered as desirable personality traits by people of all cultures. Culture is the way a group of people think, talk, dress, interact, etc. By making hiring decisions based on those factors an employer is being culturalist, which is a type of discrimination. They may not be discriminating against any obvious easily classifiable minority culture. But everyone has a culture, individual to them. And by not hiring someone who is qualified to do a job, by not hiring a person for a job in which no experience is necessary, an employer is being discriminatory. Thoughts?

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Toga_Dan2 years ago

There are a 1000 ways that something wont work out. Your niche may be, ultimately, just 1 thing. Persist. It may be a needle in a haystack, but it is there.

For that matter, learning to adapt is important. Flexibility may get you into 12 niches out of 1000. Better odds.

avocadostains (author)  Toga_Dan2 years ago

Thanks toga dan. Yea I'm keepin at it. I have an interview at goodwill thrift store. I really hate job jobs though. Really hoping I can come up with a sellable product. I like making stuff.

Kiteman2 years ago

I don't know you, all the following is generalisation based on my own experience as an employee and an employer.

"They" say that personality judgements are made in the first few seconds - personal appearance, dress, body language, handshake etc. If you don't fit in your prospective employer's mental jigsaw gap, you'll be fighting an uphill battle to be taken on.

Discrimination laws are not based on qualifications or experience, they are based on race, gender, (dis)ability and culture [eg religion], things which are, nominally, unrelated to the actual job.

Other than that, employers are looking for the "best" person for the job. On top of qualifications and experience, they will be looking at whether your personality fits in with the existing workforce, or whether the skills/experience you have complement those already in the team. They may be looking for a cog to fit in the machine, somebody to push things forward, somebody to be trained up or groomed for promotion.

If you are repeatedly knocked back, it is quite legitimate to politely ask for feedback on why you didn't get the job. If the employer gives it, you don't complain or argue, you accept it, and go away and work on it before the next

avocadostains (author)  Kiteman2 years ago

Yea I dont know. I think I am oblivious to what it is. I have an interview, I think it goes well...no job. It's possible they are actually checking references in which case I am going to need some fake ones. It is true I am a terrible employee. I am actually on disability for metal health, I have a history of being kicked out, fired, quit etc. I dont actually need a job to pay my bills but at nearly 30 years old (28) my parents are the last people who will have me and theres a lot of pressure from my mom for me to find a job. Ive worked for every temp agency in the city, those doors are all closed. There is the paper route option but I dont know if that would be enough in my mom's opinion, plus I looked into it and I'm kind of protesting it based on the fact that their pay works out to some between 2 and 5 dollars per hours. Tell me who else working for the newspaper is making that little for their time, sitting in cozy office chairs no less, not trudging through the snow. They make you buy your own rubber bands to put around the papers. It isnt right. Might be my only option though. I am trying to start a business of online sales. There are a lot of instructables that I think that would be good sellers and are cheap to make. Just havent put two and two together yet. My stick-to-it-tiveness is somewhat lacking and I dont really have a lot of support in that endeavor. The people in my family go to work, come home, and thats it, theyre done. They're not trying to have little hobbies and do projects. My Dad has every skill in the book but neither the time or patience to help me. I feel like I'm getting closer though.

It sounds like online is the way to go, especially if you can find something unique to offer. Be aware that most online businesses take time to become established and for word to spread.

If you are going to use ideas from instructables to create your stock, and those ideas are unique to the author (for instance, my "paper catapult" is entirely my own invention, it was the first in the world), then you *must* talk to the author to reach an understanding about using their work for commercial gain.

avocadostains (author)  Kiteman2 years ago

Yea I do see the difference between something that someone pulled out of the woodwork like your catapault and then just something that you got the idea from instructables that someone put a new twist on, like a can stove or a sous vide controller which all use pretty much the same controller. My guess is that youve got things going on in your life that dont allow you to spend most of your day mass producing paper catapaults. Just hypothetical what if I did want to sell those. Is that something where you would just want intellectual credit or would you expect a cut of every catapault made, sold and shipped because to me that would not make sense to have to share the profit with someone who is not doing any of the work.

It is standard practice to licence products - you would pay me a small amount per catapult sold in recognition of the fact that I was the creative force and owner of the intellectual property behind the product.

avocadostains (author)  Kiteman2 years ago

Alright, how much are we talking per catapult?

If you are moving this into a discussion about an actual deal, we'd better move this to PM.

avocadostains (author)  Kiteman2 years ago

I guess I just meant more in general. I dont think Id like to have to pay a license fee so paper catapults are not an option, at least not that design> Not tryin to have somebody sue me or something. Thats all I need. I see you have an etsy shop selling laser cut items. Has that been worthwhile for you. My cousin said a friend of hers was cleaning up on Etsy selling reusable feminie pads.

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