+1 NOT Starbucks

Can one get a "real, plain cup of coffee" from Starbucks? I tried, and the local one only had milk with a bit of coffee flavoring in it.....*shiver*

Honestly.......I wouldn't know. I never got my plain coffee after I was told they do not serve bagels.

I ordered a straight iced coffee. They asked me 3-4 times what "flavor:" I wanted in it, and I sad I just wanted a "coffee". What I got was barely coffee and mostly milk......I can buy my own milk for Way cheaper than they can sell it for....

You confused them. You chose the flavor of milk.......with some coffee. My situation was YEARS ago and for all I know they have bagels now. Ive been told they overcook their beans.....who cares! For me, its caffeine, black, no sugar, and the bottom of yesterdays cold pot is AWESOME :)

Yeah, but I asked for COFFEE. I was overly amazed that they didn't serve COFFEE at a COFFEE shop *still shaking head over it*.

I have heat sensory issues, so I just can not drink it hot, although I prefer it black, I also like it chilled actually. I keep a pitcher of it in the fridge all week (well, it lasts 2 days) to enjoy. GOOD coffee I agree needs no sugar, but the mud served in most restaurants is barely drinkable without a little sugar :-)

Of course!! coffee is favorite hot drink...
Stimelex

sounds like a poor grade of coffee to me. Made properly, a good freshly ground batch of coffee isn't bitter at all. But, if one overbrews it and it becomes a little bitter, one can always sweeten it up with a little cream, a bit of sugar, or a pinch of sodium bicarb (not too much, or it will taste salty).

Thanks for the post.
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It's Maxwell House. I put in tons of sugar... Ick

Although Maxwell House is less bitter then, say Folgers and some others, it is still not really all that fresh. Finding freshly roasted beans and grinding them yourself is the only answer, albeit a difficult one (freshness is hard to come by).

Oh.... plus, I'm only in middle school and I only know one kid who drinks coffee.

Yeah, I started the year my Dad took me deer hunting for the first time (14?) and really wished I hadn't made it a habit. Once you have to have coffee, the with drawl can be, in a word, painful (bad BAD headaches). I am glad I am no longer addicted to it, and can drink it on occasion without becoming re-addicted :-)

It's the caffiene... trust me. Because, there was a period where I was almost always drinking an energy drink.... then I stopped. OOOOUUUUUUUUCCCCCCHHHHHHHH

Oh yeah, I know. Other then tannin and some other trace things, that is mostly what coffee is made of (not counting the bean flavor ;-)

the way i drink it, it is sweet like hot chocolate but coffee flavor

What brand do you drink? (P.S. One time I made coffee and forgot to add creamer.... Eeeewww.. Extra bitterness)

Anything in excess it probably not very good for you :-)

Surely everything in the exact same amount of excess is good for me, in which case I'm fine, and I'm not fat either so that means that my excesses balanced eachother... Yeah that does sound like a load of bull but hey at least it's not my fourth beer... Speaking of which I do agree with that on some things, drank until 8am at an all night party the other night...

:-) Yeah, I was like that 20+ years ago myself. Could down 2 or 3, 16" pizzas and ask about desert.....I was 5' 11" and 155 lbs from highschool until about my mid-thirties......then I exploded. Had I had a habit of eating properly when younger, I might not have added the 90 lb faux baby in my abdominal area LOL

yeah i have an actual problem, on a night out as an example I need to budget about £10 for food alone, it's ridiculous My metabolism annoys the hell out of me, try being able to eat four plates of food (big plates) then be hungry half an hour later... On the upside I have no fatness and am only muscle and bone... strangely I'm about 6' and about 179lbs, not that far off then... I am very active and can't stand to be too still though, also I can't do a desk job so physical labour is what I do... So mid thirties I'm either likely to explode or follow my dad, he was 53, ate nearly as much as me and did the same job (I worked for him), smoked and was quite partial to a kebab at lunch so I may go that way and just be skinny all my life, the thing I hate about this is that it highlights my odd features like shoulder horns...

On the upside I have no fatness and am only muscle and bone.

I know the feeling, I had so little fat back then, I would inflate my lungs, and try to float in water (dead man style, face down) and I would sink. *sigh*

I can float unless my lungs are half full but my chest is double the thickness of my stomach in profile lol I am not person shaped in the least, by the end of this you'll have given me a complex... My friend and I had this discussion, we're mostly the same but he has pudge he sink and I float with full lungs yet both of us sink on half lungs...

I don't want to give you a complex :-) I just mention it because "I" was kind of that way, only I was weirder LOL

Yeah I was only joking remember goodhart, all worrying things from a jackalopes mouth should be ignored (old chinese proverb) You were definitely weirder... nearly same height and 22 or so lbs lighter... We must stop starting into random topice in threads, we have quite a number of these now...

Oh I know you were joking, still....well, it is hard to explain :-)

I know humour is difficult in conversational text, better for stories etc... I hat the term 'lol' but it does its job well...

Yes, especially sarcasm and such. I made a comment somewhere when "Andromeda" was brought up, and said it would be quite the strain. Kiteman appears to be the only one to have picked up on it, even after my hint :-) Tis ok, I know others have read the book or saw the movie Andromeda Strain, but oh well :-)

Hmm I have had some strange questions asked because alot of my humour is sarcasm based, not simple stuff like calling someone 'genius' under conditions where quite the opposite is shown... Oh god even that sentence was a joke if read in a posh english accent, which I make fun of quite alot... You too make complex jokes that I usually get but thats because I can hear reading in my head as a voice... with zero accent or pitch but with tone...

:-) Even in person, I tend to get "blank stares" which many of my "jokes" just because my reference points can sometimes be "lost in space" LOL or at least way out there.

not WHICH many of my jokes, but WITH *sigh*

I actually was greatly amused by the lost in space joke there... I tend to get raised eyebrows, partly because I tell jokes with my eyebrow an awful lot, that and being a teenager I come up with, sort by inappropriateness and humour at least 3 innuendos a second... Then again the rest of the time I too am lost in space.

My wife has actually gotten rather used to my "Gary Larson" style humor :-)

I notice that people do get used to less common humour, granted some people will always need a clever joke explained for them...

And having to explain a joke brings it instant death :-) Really though, my wife actually enjoys my weird sense of humor...as long as I don't get too silly (when I slip into "Monty Python" mode, in other words)

yes that tends to be the finite point of sillyness for many... I have learned ways to explain while being funny they're mostly cruel to the one who didn't understand and patronising in many cases.

Now, don't get me wrong, she can follow a good bit of silliness if there is a story involved: she had troubles "getting" Monty Python, but she had no trouble with the hilarious John Cleese in Fawlty Towers. :-)

Ah right it's unstructured sillyness that stops her...

Yeah, without the longer term story line, she just can't "pickup on it" fast enough. Tis probably why so many females don't "get" the Three Stooges, etc.

Actually I suspect females just don't like it for reasons beyond storylines, they have feelings of a higher station when it comes to humour, almost like an insecurity, It has to be a certain 'calibre' of joke nothing too silly nothing too dry

Hmm, have you ever heard them cackling among themselves though ? LOL They can definitely be rather silly...when they want to be.

Yeah I have alot of female friends, when they're in that mood they're actually far more receptive to that humour and occasionally very witty... When they want to be

I wish I knew how to teach "witty-ness" :-) My wife could use a dose. *sigh*

It isn't taught you just need about six girls to get it to come out...

Funny enough I've heard many old men say that...

Oh thanks LOL I suppose it goes both ways though, but most guys don't do it out in public places LOL

They do, they just cross their legs...

Oops, that left turn at high speed there lost me...sorry, I am not quite awake yet LOL

It isn't taught you just need about six girls to get it to come out... all started here, I said I've heard many old men say that, taught is the keyword, used in a slightly older sense.

Ok, I just lost track of the reference point ( alright, who hid my glasses again ) :-)

That said six girls would probably make an old man go :-) as well...

That is entirely possible ;-)

i wonder is it time for a web humour instructable or one on humour, not how to be funny, how to not wreck jokes...

That would be a project and a half. Especially given the wide ranges of experiences, and locales, it would be almost impossible to be complete. But an overview might work :-)

It would also be alot of fun to write... The big question though can anyone be bothered?

Well, I would say that the one that came up with the initial idea probably would be the best one to start on it. He could send a few polls out too, to find out the kind of things that are funny to those cultures he is not familiar with, eh?

i hate it when I rope myself in to these things... I'm forcing collaboration on you then.

Well, as I have time....I have to soon get ready for work (yeah, I work a really dumb shift), and being it is nearly noon, I suppose a little breakfast is somethign I should get too :-)

You can run but you can't hide...

I don't run ;-) But I do work a lot.....

Well If I take this one on at least collaborate in a proofing capability.

I will certainly try to be as helpful as I can when I can.....I do have to go for a bit ( I literally have more time at work to post here than at home, but I don't have my "tools" at work *sigh*)

Shes not a tool! an object maybe but tools are easier to work with...

I refer to my set of tools on my desktop ;-) BBL

Indeed...

Well, you let me know what you might need me to do and I will try to comply within this decade (just teasing about the time there, I am sure I can help some within the year LOL )

Ah I'd give it two years before you help... I'll try and start writing this, I have no idea how to go about this...

I would suggest writing down a "succinct" theme (short description) of the goal. Then try to outline the paths or methods to that goal (outline only). From the outline, it will be tremendously easier to keep what you want to say organized.

So very textbook reply, I understand these things, I just need to get kicked off on it...

Oh, sorry *blush*

Maybe starting with a little research into multiple "types" of humor and some of the cultural influences on them?

That's my start point I've got that far in the last five minute, I think I'll do types of humour with cultural attachments, british humour is dry and sarcastic, whereas american humour is wet and silly... (in more words and less offensive.)

But the lines that divide are not so delineating. For instance, much of Monty Python's humor was silly. And when we look at the famous Mr. Bean, well :-) But it is definitely a different kind of silliness than say Steve Martin's or, from my day, Red Skelton. :-)

I was just making fun of the general stereotypes that are completely untrue, no culture sticks to one end of the humour spectrum, It's complex.

Oh, ok, sorry, miscued again :-)

No it wasn't really you so much as me, I just said it as a jest but it didn't really lend itself to it speaking of which I'll add you as a collaborator now so you can take a look at the first point, it's very topical to our conversation.

yes, that is a start (except for blaming me LOL) how do you feel about outside links, like this one here on the physiology of laughter?

I'll add links about these things if necessary, I don't know if adding a bit about the physiology or laughter is helpful or not though... It could be irrelevant to the points made but at the same time is a bit of info that applies greatly...