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Effectiveness of sugar as a piezoelectric material

Most of the sites discussing piezoelectricity mention that sugar crystals can be used, but I have not found any examples of them being used. I've just tried it with about a 1cm chunk of low quality (conglomerate of small ~3mm crystals) crystal, and got a good 100mV wave when tapped with a pencil. I've not tried applying a signal to it yet, and some better single crystals are growing at the moment, so I was wondering how well it works compared to commercial piezoelectric compounds.

I've not done anything like this before, so if anyone knows where I can find information of the best way to mount and apply a signal to the crystal, it would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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lemonie says: Nov 7, 2011. 7:31 AM

Can you point us to these sites discussing piezoelectricity mention that sugar crystals can be used?
The charge develops through deformation of the crystal - but it obviously can't deform irreversibly.
Quartz is tough because there's a large degree of covalency in the lattice, sugar is mostly held together by hydrogen-bonds which are much weaker.

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Kiteman in reply to lemonieNov 8, 2011. 4:22 AM
One of those sites is, er, Instructables.
The Skinnerz (author) in reply to lemonieNov 7, 2011. 9:19 AM
The ever reliable Wikipedia states:

...demonstrated the effect using crystals of tourmaline, quartz, topaz, cane sugar


piezomaterials.com also says this.

It does appear to only mention it as a historical note, but I have managed to get a small voltage out of sugar crystals.
lemonie in reply to The SkinnerzNov 7, 2011. 12:16 PM

Hmm, it may be of academic value only.
I've E-mailed my old colleague Ben Davis, let's see what he knows.

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Kiteman says: Nov 3, 2011. 1:25 PM
I would guess that sugar's fragility and hydrophilia stop most people using it.

The Skinnerz (author) in reply to KitemanNov 3, 2011. 2:07 PM
The individual crystals seem reasonably strong, but I would have to agree that the susceptablity to water damage prevents commercial use. I have thought about giving it a thin layer of wax to seal it, but I guess that it would absorb too much of the energy and make the whole thing ineffective.
Kiteman in reply to The SkinnerzNov 3, 2011. 2:09 PM
Maybe varnish? Or spray lacquer?
The Skinnerz (author) in reply to KitemanNov 3, 2011. 2:21 PM
That sounds like a better idea, although I don't know whether the sugar will like the solvent in it though. Alternatively, sealing one side of the container with a thin rubber membrane may work better than coating the crystal.
Kiteman in reply to The SkinnerzNov 3, 2011. 2:29 PM
You can test the spray on an ordinary sugar cube.
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