Free Energy... NOT From Saltwater!

This one's for Kiteman. Right after an independent cancer cure researcher in Ohio discovers that he can make saltwater burn, we get a story from the UK about a water heater with an efficiency of 250%-300%.

The device seems to break the fundamental physical law that energy cannot be created from nothing - but researchers believe it taps into a previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water.

The system - developed by scientists at a firm called Ecowatts in a nondescript laboratory on an industrial estate at Lancing, West Sussex - involves passing an electrical current through a mixture of water, potassium carbonate (otherwise known as potash) and a secret liquid catalyst, based on chrome.

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dudes, how much weed did you smoke, this is not free ennergy. this is a torch, at most. this thins needs considerable voltage to power the cathode, and energy is lost in heat. and then the unknown ingrediant based on CHROME?! crome is stainless steel. its magnetic.its a conductor. does nothing but poisin the water. this device is nothing more than electrolosis. it requires more energy than is put into it. this guy whoever it is, is an el hacko. dont be dumb. its an eletrical arc through hazardous water.
Relax. We've been making fun of the free energy ideas that get bounced around the net.
Oh, so I totally just got needlessly angry and made a fool of myself? Wouldn't be the first time... Well, some ideas ARE fun to ridicule. Especially that John Searle guy. He's got more than one screw loose. Some of his machines would work, but overall, he's crazy. One legit machine I've come across is a "cavitation water-to-steam pump". That thing could seriously generate quite a lot of energy once some blatant technical problems are solved.
You know now that this comes back up assuming there is a catalyst for and H2O > H2 O2 reaction then something along these lines could be damn useful and efficient, however is there a catalyst for every reaction? also water is a very strange substance in terms of science, being a solvent for everything and such... However adding the potash gives a few more reactants to play with and makes the chances of there being catalyst for this kind of reaction to be more likely, right?

Anyway how about a truly well tuned magnetron from a microwave in a water heater form, with jsut the right balance of flow and chamber size you could potentially utilize almost all the energy coming from the magnetron sine the chamber can be completely filled with water. Containment issues wouldn't be too hard since a simple faraday cage woven through a ceramic liner could stop the microwaves in their tracks. Transformers are what, around 90-95% efficient in a good design, or is it less? it just seems like a very effective way to replace resistance heating with an extremely high speed and on demand service without massively increasing power consumption. Not to mention doing away with the collective losses you ahve from attempting to store heat energy in a hot water tank. Granted a giant vacuum flask isn't unreasonable if someone could make a simple lock together barrel systemfor installation ease, combined with a cheap vacuum pump to evacuate the jacket it could be much more effective than foam jackets and not that costly, in the mean time a couple of those space blankets don't seem unreasonable to augment fibreglass insulated boiler jackets. Also tinfoil on the inside of the boiler box would help... I can think of several ideas likely to lower the radiative and combined convective losses of older boilers, in one house there was a noticeable updraft effect similar to a radiator because of poor insulation on the boiler.
Holy un-paragraphed comment, Batman! :D :D
zachninme10 years ago
Who wants to guess that the water is just coming out 2-3x hotter than it went in -- and they're forgetting the electricity and/or calculating its usage incorrectly.
why don't you believe them? I have a free energy device too.
Oh, I have one too. I just don't believe them because I'm the only one who can work my special device. It only works in my lab (house), and its the only one to exist. (I proved it)
Are you being sarcastic?
Most certainly not!
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