Grammar and spelling.

I hate when people don't spell properly. Or when they have poor grammar. I just hate it when they spell bad. Well I use to be one that spelled badly. What's your take on the bad spelling? Also, I hate it when they say "dude u spell worse than my sister". That just really tics me off.

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Kiteman10 years ago
Rolls up sleeves.

I hate it when people don't spell properly, or when they have poor grammar. I just hate it when they spell badly. What's your take on the bad spelling? Also, I hate it when they say "dude u spell worse than my sister". That just really tics me off.

Apart from all that, I agree ;-)

If nothing else, users should really switch to using Firefox and install the spell-check add-on. It doesn't catch every mistake, but it helps catch typing errors caused by haste.
Kiteman Kiteman10 years ago
I forgot to add: it's not just pomposity or pedantry to expect users to post in "proper" English, but it shows respect for those whose first language is not English, and use automatic translation software to access the site. Several times, I have used Babelfish (or similar sites) to translate other languages into English, but the poor spelling or grammar used by the site's authors have made Babelfish render the translation gibberish.
Several times, I have used Babelfish (or similar sites) to translate other languages into English, but the poor spelling or grammar used by the site's authors have made Babelfish render the translation gibberish.

Some french forums make me totally crazy ... No foreigner could actually learn/train/improve french on a french forum like I'm learning/training/improving my english here. Babelfish would be no help.

Honestly, seems to me that American/English kids and teenagers make less spelling and grammar error than French kids and teenagers.

The most common and funny thing I've found with American kids and teens writing, is about punctuation.

About young and old adults, the most common error I've detected so far is : then/than.

I wonder if the quantity of errors into a writing is related to the difficulty of the language, or is related to the quality or to the method of the teaching. What do you think ?
English is awkward anyway, being such a melange of other languages from across Europe and Asia. Many of the words are not spelled phonetically at all, homonyms are killers, and many of the verbs are madly irregular.

I don't think it's the teaching, not in the UK at least. Instead, it's a combination of factors: things like "ur" and "gr8" were forced by mobile phones, when messages were character-limited and texts cost more, then the problem was exacerbated by instant messaging on things like msn, where people need to type as fast as they talk.

Add to that the on-going need of "youth" to have a culture distinct from, and incomprehensible to the elder generation, and you add a layer of deliberate switching of meanings - "sick" is a good thing, apparently.

Finally, there is a much more international facet to the problem - the internet allows anybody to talk to anybody that will answer, and many of those people have English as a second language, plus are far younger than people used to be before they contacted others from other cultures, so words, phrases and abbreviations sneak in to complicate matters.



Or maybe I'm just old - a lexicographic dinosaur, out-evolved by the mutability of modern technologically-literate youth.
CameronSS Kiteman10 years ago
Does it help any to tell you that I'm fifteen, and I agree wholeheartedly?

Or maybe I'm just old... I thought that you had firmly stated exactly the opposite, but I guess that'll change in December...
Kiteman CameronSS10 years ago
Make that old fashioned, then.
Goodhart Kiteman10 years ago
The bottom lineis that proper spelling and proper grammar (reasonably proper) augments communication (assuming we are trying to relay information, one to another).
Punkguyta Kiteman10 years ago
Makes me want to break out into french educational song *pulls out bong* "Hold on a sec"........ah screw it man, I don't have it in me to sing a french song tonight...

-Punk

Another time maybe?
French forums aren't so bad, you just have to know a little french, and sound everything out.

The pronounciation of the french language is so skrewd up (Aye dihd tat sew thay wuldn't hunta mea dwn) I mean wonderful. Every other letter is silent, and I'm surprised they didn't invent chatspeak.
Not to mention if you see "b1", you'll think "one", even though its "un", to them, so you wouldn't figure out bien,

http://french.about.com/library/writing/bl-texting.htm

That helps a lot.
Although that may seem an assault on the French language, it wasn't meant to be. Anyone saying something bad about your tounge is just bad. I don't mind people calling english bad though -- it is.
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