Hunting Tips

It's been almost three years since their last post, I think the fox got them.

Yeah like those koala's (we call them drop bear's, because they are sneaky and like to attack from above).. And don't be fooled by possum's either... Body of a squirrel and as dangerous as a great white! ROFLOL.... Are you from Aus RS?? What exactly has big teeth? A croc? That's all i can think of... And you wouldn't hunt a croc with a bow as it wouldn't even feel the arrow, that's if it got through it's scales... Sorry you just made me LMAO! Good show! ;)

ROFLOLOMGFTWBBQ! Wait, what? Seriously, the above two comments gave me a laugh. -PKT

I live in suburban Australia, it was just humouros to me to think of all our big teethed animals...

BTW, what do you do with dingoes? Them and crocs are known to snatch small kids and such...and are 'roos like giant rats down there?

BS ,we hunt alligator in the south with bows. If you shoot it in the right place it is easy to kill them. Gator hide isnt as tough as its cracked up to be

Gator? Who said anything about a gator??
And what size gator are you reffering to?

I'd like to see you put a arrow, into a big male 14ft salt water croc mate...
Not only will you just piss him off, unless you hit him in the eye, or the head of the arrow manages to get through his 3/4 inch thick skull, which is unlikely unless it's point blank... And at point blank your only gonna get one shot, it'll charge you and take your leg off before you load your second.. So you'd have to be pretty handy with a bowie to survive that.....

I'll assume until you reply that your hunting not so large gator's, cause are large croc can take several rifle rounds to get a kill shot. Forget about .22's all together... Unless you can get it through the eye socket...

Happy hunting....
You should visit Australia some time... I can just see you stalking a big salty, then him noticing your there,

Air plane ticket to Austalia- $ 1000

Compound bow and
ammunition- $ 800

The look on your face,
when you realise you
should have bought
your shot gun or exploding tip's-

'...PRICELESS!!... '

And by the way 14ft croc's are common in many places in Australia..

I almost got eaten by a croc in PNG. It was a salty, and I didn't see the full length, but the TIP of the snout was about a foot wide. In the southern US, we have gators up to 14+ feet long, but most of the ones I see are 10' to 12'. THey aren't nearly as nasty as a salty. There were pics of salties (from years ago)in PNG and Indonesia up around the 20' mark.

Hmm, if razor sharp arrows fueled by a 200 lb bow won't hurt the Croc, a shot gun won't do much either, except at point blank range. :-) I've been hit by shotgun pellets. I personally wouldn't want anything less then a 30-06 honestly.

Mama always said be careful when you boys go out and play with that Cheney neighbor kid. You got pepper'ed, didn't ya?

Actually Cheney was near my Duck spot again last week. (We think it was Cheney, at least someone with Secret Service guys). We were there at the same time as him last year. ANyway, I've been peppered too. It's usually when I shoot straight up at a bird. The pellets coming down don't really hurt (unless they get in your eye!).

Hmmm, good bet that he'll be there more often come end of the year. There goes the neighborhood...

Tell me about it! I roam around with these grizzled, under-educated, overpaid, semi-dangerous rednecks. But ol' Dicky is a little to rough for our tastes!

I was my own worst enemy growing up.....shot myself in the forehead, right between the eyes, with an air powered pellet gun once (actually, I shot a tree, and the pellet came back at me and struck me right between the eyes).

They're right, you're gonna take an eye out with that thing.

Yeah, that is what I always think of too.....I will never forget that movie for sure.

I was referring to a solid shot... And your right a scatter shot, will only get him even more angry....

Solid, as in what we all call "punkin' balls" ? :-) Well, you might as well use a rifle, as the "rifling" in the barrel gives you more accuracy. But, that is a personal choice after all ;-)

also, most boe hunting IS done at pointblank, the farthest most people hunt from is around 20 to 30 yards. and just how will an alligator climb a tree to get into your tree stand??

Tree stands are usually, what 10 ft? Apparently, with a 14' "Salty," I'd sy your screwed. Otherwise, the main areas to hit would be the underbelly, easy if you have another guy, and the "Salty's" eyes are probably 2" large. Seems pretty easy to hit a 10+ feet. -PKT

clearly you underestimate the power of a bow at close ranges. and by close ranges i dont mean walking up to the damned thing, in a boat. I am talking about an american alligator. and 14 foot alligators are very common in the south. And hopefully someone with a lick of sense would become very handy with a bow before attempting to hunt alligators. and no, i am not talking about smaller aligators. The smallest alligator I have ever killed was 9 foot, and the only reason why i shot it was it was in our yard. A shotgun loaded with buckshot and a slug is more then enough for an alligator. have you seen a sabot slug before?? and stalking for alligators on foot is like free climbing everest. just stupid beside being completely illegal exploding tips are mainly used in archery, the whole shaft is packed with blackpoweder with a percussion cap on the tip. and exploding bullet would no nothing because bullets mushroom in flight, therefor releasing all the powder into the air. do you even hunt?

What state do you live in? an alligator without being picked in a drawing for a quota hunt here is extremely illegal, and yes, I live in the south.

>and exploding bullet would no nothing because bullets mushroom in flight Why I usually leave the room when people talk about weapons.

I understand what you mean here. I have seen a 30/30 soft point enter a deer (makes a small hole, the size of the original bullet) and if it exits the other side, makes a hole about the size of a fist or bigger (IF it hit no bone on it's passage through). Nasty little bullet to be hit by for sure.

Why do you normally ,leave the room when people talk about weapons? I'll assume from your post, that's it's because you have no knowledge of them..

Mostly because they say things like, "I saw on a video where a guy cut through a piece of railroad track with a katana" and then my teeth start grinding. Let's just say I know enough to understand that the spiral fluting down the bore of a rifle is not a decorative element or manufacturing artifact and move on.

Exploding bullets are made from a harder material so that they dont mushroom in flight.

"because bullets mushroom in flight" Yeah, that's so,umm, what's a nice way to say "The stupidest thing ever said"?

Some bullets are made of softer material so that the can mushroom in flight to cause more damage to the target.

Please cite an example of such a bullet.

Look at this.

That's a nice example of post-impact expansion, bullets simply do not expand in flight, it makes no sense, any bullet soft enough to expand in flight would just splat on the target, also the aerodynamics are completely ruined and the thing would never hit it's target because of nonuniform drag from the expansion, not to mention the loss in energy caused by the drag.

even paint balls don't mushroom in flight.....*sigh*

so, no more Tasmanian Devils ? I heard they have a bit of meanness to them :-)

Yes, they get agressive with each other when feeding... I haven't heard of any "attack's" but there have been many bite's whilst handling... They are normally very timid creature's.... just they have bone crushing stone jaws... So they get a bad wrap.......

Oh ok, so they don't compare with the Wolverines of the northern portion of North America? Or the infamous Honey Badger ? That's cool. Thanks for enlightening me.

Oh! Do't get me wrong.... DO NOT back a tasey devil into a corner... It'll attack you and probably take half your hand... Two on em' in a corner and you might not end up on top....
But they are not hunter's they are generally scavenger's....

Unfortunatley these lovley (I think everything is cute) creature look like they might be heading down the extinction path....

Google tasmanian devil / facial tumour.... I'm sure you would find it interesting, yet knowing you, you probably know more than myself about it...
GH= wealth of knowledge, and vaste scope of interests... ;)

Scientist have been baffled, by these tumour's for a while now and have only recently developed breeding program's with un- infected specimen's....
The facial tumours are REALLY aggresive, and restrict the animal's ability to eat and compete with other devil's for the food... I am talking 2 mths from the start of the tumour till it takes over the entire face/mouth/throat... They basically starve to death...
Very sad in all... It makes me feel bad that the poor lil' bugger's are sooo ugly, they are not getting the same reasponce from the public as say a cute animal like the Bilby's... Kinda sucks, It's weird how EVERYONE cares when it's too late.... Human's.... BAh!

I remember seeing something on Animal Planet about them being so rare, for awhile they were thought to be a myth or legend (and yeah, there aren't many creatures I would call 'ugly' either :-) . Aww, who could refuse this face ?

ummmmm.... not sure, I don't think that would have been tasey devil's. I believe you are thinking of the Tasmanian tiger. And yes it has been declared extinct.... The mythical part comes from many mystery sheep death's.. Possibly a couple left in Tasmania but none have been officially spotted for atleast 15years.... Fortunatley a few specimens have been preserved and perhaps in the near future we might see a hybrid brought back... They are talking about it now....

Tasey tiger-

What an amazing animal!! Definatley worth trying to clone, when we get it right... Which sounds like it's pretty close... Very impressive animal.... I just read something disturbing.... Did you know? That Australia has the worst rate of extinction of its nature inhabitants... In the last 200yrs we have lost 50% (holy %$#) of our nat inhabitant's... That is soooo bad... Kinda disgraceful really...

I bet a good portion of it is due to the introduction of non-indigenous species either taking over the food supplies, or competing for territory.

Yeah, it was calle dthe english... LoL Then probably fox's, rabbit's which I believe where also brung here by the british, for hunting purposes... Then the cane toad, introduced to erradicate, yet went to far and became a pest in plauge proportions.

and don't forget about those cats LOL The Feral Cat Link

Oh ok, yeah I just found this: Tasmanian Devil - Discovery - Animal Planet

Hehe glad you gt, it was mostly a joke :)

Foxes are shy animals, and have a beautiful coat, it is sad if he can't be trapped and relocated.

Relocating animals is cruel, the mortality rate for relocated animals is 90% (per UF wildlife extension agent)

It works wonderfully well here. Sorry I hadn't noticed before where you all were located. I have read about the feral cats in some areas over there too.

A lone animal like this ? I would have thought differently. Oh well, maybe he can find it a better food source ? :-)

Also, foxes are an invasive pest in AU. Shoot the fox! and make a case mod from it.

Har. Fuzzy power button you got there... -PKT

But, I see he resides in Oz so I withdraw my comments as being unrelated to his circumstance.

around here, they are a very rare sight indeed

Same here :( mostly habitat lost. But in Aus if they be invasive pest (like something else I know!) ERADICATE THEM!

Well, I believe the feral cat situation came about by the bringing in of non-indigenous species, if I remember correctly.

Yup, thats why the are target practice at my house (shhh!!!!).

Um, I meant in Oz :-)

Oh. Well here too ;)

Yeah but not like this: Invasion of the Feral Cats.....coming to a theater near you....

!!!!!!!! Awesome! Lol. -PKT

one fox wont kill "hundreds of thousands of ducks".

rabits birds mice lizards eggs and pretty much anything they find. show that your smart. phhh

maybe trap it and relocate. i now understand your situation. i just hate to see animals get killed. how is it getting threw your big fence?

put a sprng on your gate so it will close atomatically

Or a weight and pulley, or both.

wow, i couldnt agree with you more. i love animals and i hate to hear or see one being killed. i believe he is trying to get attention.

Yeah, that was just the impression I got.... A fox would be a simple kill... Since this appears to be a new prob, I would assume it has just had cubs and is just trying to get some immediate food into them... soon it will be back to scavenging... It probably only took the duck cause it needed it, and I can almost assure you it didn't eat the duck, the female and the cubs probably did... He's probably eating the defecations of the ducks just to get some nutrients..

i am not against hunting. i just don't want it to suffer. or at least have had a full life before you kill it. thats all.

?? not my post... I'm not killing anything..... LoL

Your weren't thinking of bridge goblins were you ? LOL

crackle, pop ? ;-)

scare the fox out of its hole and just camp out like 5 feet from it and build a fire and stuff, it has to return home sometime.

Are you a good shot with the bow? If you want to get the fox then fined out where it goes. (Animals take the same path most of the time because they think it is safe.) When you find the path it takes set up a tree stand or blind and it should come right by you. When you see it take the shot and the problem should be salved.

Shootind down at such a small target will be difficult at best.

and also, ...the problem should be salved. Sounds too greasy for me LOL

you only need the stand to be up about 10 feet (could be less)so that is an easy shot.

Hmm, would depend on the angle. I guess if you were shooting into the distance it is not so bad. Little worse then simply standing.

I like using a tree stand because it allows you to see more. You just need to take the time to practice the shots at different distances to get accustom to it.

Oh I understand. When I was younger, I was a lot more sensitive to the cold and the wind, and so I tended to stay as close to the ground as I could :-) . This helped develop my ability to discern the differences in sounds too (nuts dropping from trees, squirrel footfall, chipmunks playing, other animals like pheasant, rabbit, and of course deer. After the first year, I wasn't so "panicked" at every turning over of a leaf (although if I could have caught them, I would have strangled those chipmunks that first year) LOL.