Different people have different definitions of what is personally, morally acceptable. Personally, nothing consensual offends me. But I have a friend who freaks out if he see people kissing, different strokes......

Fair enough.

Erm, seriously, check the date...

Yeah,I know the date.However,he might be reading these in his email alerts.

Still, it's nice to know royalestel lived up to their belief and haven't been back since, at least not in this guise.

Good to have you back. I understand your feelings. If I see anything genuinely pornographic on Instructables, I report it. If it's "borderline" I just ignore it, and steer clear of that area in the future. Sometime's it's a fine line to be "in the world, but not OF the world".

Agreed. Anything that detracts or distracts from the goals of this site are definitely not what the originators intended. I, too, make certain to report offensive content if and when I encounter it here. Incidentally, I think that it's been slowly decreasing, a trend refreshingly opposed to the rest of the 'net. I believe the admins on this site really do strive to make it family-safe.

^{Conference rocked!}

Hey ! Welcome Back !

Indeed.

He's not going to answer you, so I'll do it for him (or try). If someone popular left, or well known, like royalestel, then people would be wondering where he went. It is just a courtesy. If kiteman just left, then people would be (censored) that he didn't explain why he left, or anything like that.

WE SHOULD HAVE A POPULARITY CONTEST

You lose. ^jk

People already make lists and crap like that. They're pointless, but if you feel like making one, go ahead.

If I wanted to make one I wouldn't of posted that. My idea is (was) If someone sees my post they would make one and put me at the top. But it didn't work

your getting annoying

Who me ??? Seriously I hear that everywhere. I'm born with a gift. But if you are talking to me I don't quiet understand how I am being annoying ?

Nah, that is just a "bad vibes" generator.

very true.

plus id win. if i disappeared, would people notice?

I did not even notice when you appeared ...............

who?

When who appeared? ;-)

come on you guys, surly someone will notice if i disappear for a month.
i hope
runs sadly to oscar and hugs him to make himself feel better

Really? Would we? Or would we quietly contemplate in our minds and not type anything. Or we might just post about it just because it seems right.

Who's Oscar ? I've seen you in other forms but i don't think id notice if you disappeared Imagine the 911 call Operator: "Hello how may I Help you" Me:Umm theres this person on instructables and he hasn't posted in like a week. Operator: Stay Calm............. I'm not typing anymore so you have to think up the ending yourself, like in the sopranos I HATED WHEN THEY DID THAT!!!!!

I already said I would, but who am I really ?

...i would...maybe...if i was bored...and thought about it for a while...but ya

Sure we would ;-)

we'd say: Um, there is an empty chair over there......who's missing ? LOL

And also the chance of me being gunned down by the mob or getting squished by a cement truck are unlikely. But if I don't post for more than 2 weeks, I could be dead or hibernating. So Contact The Local Authorities But Sorry You Had To Leave Dude

If I disappear without any contact or reason within a month.....don't send flowers, but please send donations to the American Cancer Society. My Dad died of colon cancer in his 40's and I am riddled with (so far non-malignant) skin cancers... either that or a truck ran me over.

That was a depressing comment.

I am sorry.

But I hope you don't die of cancer Goodhart. At least not until you post that first instructable. (oh, god that was heartless).

BTW: I have my ASL instructable almost ready. I have to take a few pictures, and do a video or two and it will be set (everything is written up, maybe I will polish it a bit first...I will see) Once published, once can still edit it can't they?

At least you are making it worthwhile, and not rushing it like some people do. A good quality Goodhart instructable. So looking foward to it. It's a sign language instructable, right?

Well, it will have the quality a first time attempt can have. Experience still teaches the fine tuning the best. BTW: I mentioned this below, but do you have any idea if Youtube has a size limit on videos uploaded, or is it just my end? I tried 3 times, then made the video smaller, more compact and tried again, and still, it sits, churns, and then locks up. Any ideas?

No clue on the youtube thing. I'm not an internet video type of person. I just watch them.

Yes, you can (I have incorporated other people's ideas and corrected mistakes they have made),

Aw man. I finally though I got the video in, after a good 2 hours upload on DSL, and when I play it back, the audio is off.....can anyone tell me what might have happened ? I have spent 3 days now trying to get this right *sigh*

Here is the video:

There is sound, but it's very quiet.

Yes but it is totally unsynchronized. It is almost 5 letter behind my signing......I don't understand what happened *sigh* and it took SOOOOOOO long to get that one made & uploaded too. *sigh*

Maybe I have to change some settings when recording ?

thanks. What is with Youtube (or is it me) I can't seem to load my first video up there. I didn't see it stated, but do they have a size limit ? (I tried to trim it down,but it is still about 49 mb . Or maybe because it is an AVI video ? It just sits and churns until my puter locks up.

Well, it won't be from Colon cancer. When I was 40, I got my first colonoscopy , and have had 3 more since. The first they found 3 benign polyps and removed them, and I have been clean since. The skin "cancer" has been, so far, benign....just troublesome as they remove them with a miniature arc welder device and I have to suffer with electric burns on my back for months afterwards.

My dad had his first melanoma removed when he was in his early twenties. The doctors said; "don't bother having a family, you won't see them grow up". They also said "don't bother paying into a pension, you'll never cash it in", which caused some problems. He turns 65 in April, has three grandchildren, and still hasn't decided whether to retire or not - there's an interesting job in the Far East he may take on.

Oh I know, I am not counting my poultry before they are hatched, but the frequency of my back and legs being sunburnt when I was very young is worrisome to me. I had enough cases of sun poisoning to make it so. Well, maybe not worrisome, but something to watch and make sure I am constantly aware of and take care of them immediately.

That's probably how my dad got kicked off (as a boy of 10 or so he worked on a farm, driving an open-topped tractor with no shirt on), but we have a family predisposition to them as well - my uncle (who did not work on the farm) was indirectly killed by a melanoma - it formed over a lymph gland, which spread cancerous cells through his body very quickly. In the end, it was his liver that was the final straw (something we found mildly ironic: a master brewer being killed by liver failure). So far, I have been very lucky - I have one suspect mole which so far only needs watching, not removing.

I am sorry about your uncle. It is funny, my Mom and Dad were both brown haired, and I and the rest of the "offspring" turned out with various shades of red, and of course, fair skin as well. I must use 60+ SPF Bull Frog protection when I go out, or I either sweat off the other sunblocks or they don't protect well enough. Bull Frog stays on until I use a heavy duty detergent to remove it :-) And seeing as I have no shielding up top anymore either, a cap is always necessary.

No need to be sorry, it was years ago (he was much older than my dad). I need to wear a hat as well, for SPF in the summer, and TOG in the winter.

If I ever leave without explanation, worry ;-)

It's a shame RE felt he had to leave, but his religion would explain a lot of the fallings-out-and-in we had.

I've got to say, RE (if you're reading this in your email alerts), that I hope I wasn't part of the reason you left. (If this site falls under your definition of "pornographic", then being online at all must be quite a strain on your faith.)

I've just looked through the Make Out 'ible again, this time wearing my old Religious goggles - they are old, scratched, out of fashion and barely fit, but I think I get what his problem was.

Personally, I wouldn't class it as unsuitable. At most "unwise", giving all the hormone-ridden teens we seem to get here yet another thing to have angst about (Nobody will do that with me, I must be too ugly / too fat / too thin / too geeky / doomed to a life of painful solitude and poetry with pauses in odd places, yes I know I'm only 13 but that just makes it worse!)

I think it still would've been okay if the author of that i'ble stopped at step 6... everything beyond that is, well, just that: beyond making out...

But I'll agree with you on that it was "unwise"; your argument does make sense.

Eh, either way, I PM'd Eric about it. When you go to post an i'ble there is a note warning users to not post anything "illegal or illicit", so maybe that's been overlooked in the past.

Fair 'nuf. Makes sense out of respect for your fellow man.

Come on. If he feels like something on the site pushed the button, he has all the right to leave, and I don't think we should look down on him for it. He is following his religious beliefs. Mormons are very strict on these things.

Agreed. Although i had no idea what they were talking about until someone mentioned the making out instructable. Personally, i would never even read an instructable like that so there's no worry of offending me. That and it would take a LOT to offend me. If the site had many tutorials on blatantly illegal activities then i would make a stink about them and probably move on. I also have to echo the others that point out that just being online must be difficult. You probably shouldn't turn on your television or computer and do not open a magazine or read any novels or books written for anyone over 10. Of course, any mention of chocolate, soda, coffee or other source of caffeine should also be banned form the site because of your religious convictions. Religions should be about tolerance. Not pointing a finger. Why did you even read that Instructable? I know you're gone but the question is rhetorical. Ever buy gas at a gas station that sells Maxim Magazine? Ever buy groceries at a store that sells Coke? Banning yourself from a site because one USER SUBMITTED article goes against your religious beliefs is silly. Unless you take the same measures for any other business that goes against your religious principles.

Mormons are a community. There must be some "ethical" pressure from this community over their members. As this may lead to make a choice between two communities (instructable community, or Mormons community), this could also explain why he had to leave.

agreed, but i will also add this, according to his definition of porn, 2 people kissing (not making out) in a classy romantic restaurant is porn.... also there are thousands of people on this site. the fact that only 1 thing offends him incredibly surprises me. besides the one thing that did offend him was incredibly minor...it wasnt even porn. besides, why do you think god gave us private parts, to make us feel bad? besides all he has to do is just not click on the link anyways. it doesnt make sense to me that hes leaving over this.

"besides, why do you think god gave us private parts, to make us feel bad? "

He didn't, God gave us parts, society made them private.

lol true. but you know what i mean

are you saying all the people who looked are losers? cya. nice having you on.

Here man take a minute to think about the huge number of forum topics devoted to this and the amount of burning questions they raise, that and it could have been far worse... I understand your view about it perfectly well but remember some are greatly reassured by things like this also having taken the time to read it and laugh i thought it was on the right side of tasteful, I didn't feel it was an accurate portrayal of life but not because of the pictures, you can't have a formula for life... Chill out though, I see why he's leaving and his reasoning becasue my mums ex was raised mormon, it's sad that a line can't be drawn here for both people, I thought the actual instructablr would have been tame enough but then again it itself promotes 'making out' so he's got a point... it is a shame though...

Seeing as How to Make Out was a burning question, I'm sure no one at instructables has a problem with it.

That's what I thought, though the ads that appear with it get a bit... No I'm not sure he's referring to the how to make out instructable but it's seems like aan educated guess... Also what I was saying there was that there's a grey spot between opinion differences and technical decency (what makes what bad)

maybe he considered the one he pointed out to be the "straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak ?

Or the stripper pole instructable?

X-actly, all you have to do is ignore it.

I don't think they need to be ignored. Both instructables were well made and educational. This site doesn't cater to individual needs, but population as a whole. That instructable was written because there are a lot of people looking for something like that.

never mind, I found it

What ?

I am pretty sure it is in regards to the "How to make out" instructable.