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I need some expert mac help!!

Okay, I got a bit of a story, and a bit of a question (Las Vegas, I know you can help me). I've been transfered to a new highschool (not that new to me, I've been to it before) and I've been there for about 3 weeks now. I was given a thinkpad R51 by the school board while I was out of school to use for school work and to take to school. That's all fine and dandy, but the restrictions on their disc image are unbelievable and it makes it next to useless to me other than a gigantic calculator with a shitty battery life. So I wiped it of course, repartitioned it with a 30 and 10 gig partition (respectivly both NTFS, the backup partition, the 10 gig one, is currently in fat32 as I forgot macs can't write to NTFS). So everything works fine, when I got transfered to the school, I asked the so-called "head" techy teacher person of my school for the wep key for the wireless network in my school so I can print my work out in class instead of waiting till I got home (teachers don't like that sometimes). Since I've been to school he's made up excuses like "I know I have the wep key wrote down somewhere, but I know it'll take me like an hour to find it so I can't right now - I've been told that on 4 different occasions on 4 different days. Funny thing is that both he and I know that their wireless isn't actually pure wep mode. It's a wpa enterprise mode of some sort with a required username/password combination to log into it (that's fine though, it'll still work if I have the password). Oh yeah I forgot how I took my ibook to school one day, then the next day (no not the day I was showing him my ibook) he tells me that the wireless will work on my ibook, but not the thinkpad, which, like every other fucking laptop in the school, is a model R51 type 1829 with the odd old R40 laying around. It's excuses after excuses, my mother wanted to call in and give them hell for leading me around but I told her no, I'm curious to see how dumb this teacher thinks I am (and so far I've been playing dumb). NOW he tells me that I need to now, re-image my thinkpad with their school disc image they use on their machines, which I don't have to agree to doing because the laptop didn't come from this school and so it's not theirs. There was absolutely no reason it would not work as I even used the exact same wifi drivers/software and even the same profile management software they use on theirs. Now, I'm almost done but let me explain the last bit of why I'm even posting this lenghty (and possibly waste of time) post. I recently re-reformated as somehow I contracted a nasty trojan downloader onto it, and it was due for a clean up anyways. Well wasn't that a rough ride, since the reinstall I've had to wrestle a video driver onto it, fiddle around with all the other drivers to get them installed, and I still can't get a wifi driver to install. Even if I force install one from the "manual" option when XP asks for drivers (yes XP does have generic Intel Wifi lan drivers for my card) and it wouldn't go, just gave me an error 10 code (device cannot startup). Okay, so the driver isn't compatible? Well Lenovo only has 3 different wifi driver packages for different wifi internal cards for my "one" model/type of laptop (the type "1829" is lenovo's numbering system basically for revisions, and when I went on their site for drivers, it askes me for this, model, and a specific 3 digit number on the bottom (order code I think). So why it can't just tell me the specific card in my revision (as I'm sure there's probably only one card for my revision) is beyond me. I downloaded all three, the first two were just small driver/utility packages (I think they were only 802b drivers too, at least one of them was). When I tried to install them, no luck, first appeared to install it, although the drivers never installed apparently. So I uninstalled what (still) there, and tried the second, same thing, except nothing installed, but it appeared to install. So I went on to the last one, it appeared to be succesful. Not, for some reason, windows could list me all the ap's around here, but couldn't connect to them, or mine, and I know I put the right key in. And when I tried to use Ibm's utilites to connect, it kept crashing, and it was even crashing the wireless zero config windows service thing every time I tried to power on the wifi or such. However I don't even care about windows right now at this particular time or fixing the drivers, for all I know there was a scratch on the install cd and it's botched (very unlikely as I know the install would halt and say it can't read) Now because my teacher has been literally screwing around with me (I'm not assuming here that he's lying to me and making excuses, I know he is because it's just too obvious, you guys tell me). Plan? Install mac os x on the thinkpad and ask him again if it'll work and if he says no, I will probably rip him a new asshole right there on the spot, seeing as he's told me multiple times it will work on my mac, but not the thinkpad, so if I have mac software on there, shouldn't be a problem (hehe). I really want to do this to get back at my teacher because he doesn't believe anything I tell him and he thinks he's pretty smart, just generally another guy with a too-big ego for one person to handle. I downloaded the iAtkos disc image as directed by instructions I found through google (yes, torrent, illegal, don't harp on me for it, jobs makes enough as it is with ipod sales). It's supposed to be pre-patched, and also supposed to include additional driver packages of some kind (that's a plus). And to boot, it's supposed to boot off the dvd (lawl) without any tricks (like usb drives and that smutz). It all seems pretty sweet, and it did boot when I popped it in, but It went to the mac loading screen (the white one with the grey spiny thing) and just sits there with absolutely no activity. I booted it with the -v/-s command(s) and this is what comes up when it stops loading and sits: "Extension "com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin" has immediate dependencies on both com.apple.kernel and com.apple.kpi components; use only one style." My understanding is that the plist file might be missing some components the driver is calling for, but the "use only one style" part doesn't make sense so I know it's something else. Although it didn't say, I presume the kernal was already patched as it was supposed to be a pure pop-in-and-go image. I was hoping to try installing the EFI patch after too if I can get it going in the first place. And yes, I did quite a bit of googleing before I came to here. I could find information on R40's with mac os x installed on them (or was it x40?, I know those are newer, the r40's are old) and other models inbetween but nothing on thinkpad. I don't even care if it's fast or works 100%, I just want to do it, I do also know that the atheros chipset in my wifi card is native compatible with tiger apparently and should show up as a standard airport card. I don't know if I'll be amazed or not when I post this finally and see how many pages long it is, but I do really need a hand, because this will be the final step before I go to the VP and tell him that this guy has been screwing around with me and blowing me off. I deserve and education dammit!

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Wow! I feel sorry for you! If you want the wep password you could just snif it. I would use Air-Crack. I think there is even a version of ubuntu with Air-crack pre installed. Its pretty cool that your school gives you laptops! We have about 10 laptops in are whole high school and there are about 3,000 students and staff total!
Punkguyta (author)  joejoerowley9 years ago
Well, aircrack I can't seem to get working with my wifi card (which is atheros and currently I can't even install the normal driver for it lol). I do have a program for my ibook called kismac based on the same source code but built into a GUI and compiled for mac os x, it worked with my airport card and I cracked my own wep password at home. However because this isn't a regular pure wep environment so there currently isn't a cracking algorithm for this kind of network that I know of, I was able to sniff like 10mbits of data off the networks here (10,000+ packets, I cracked my own off like 5,000 some odd. Unfortunatly It wouldn't crack with any of the algorithms so I'm SOL. They finally made me a user account for their systems (although it still doesn't get me wifi on a laptop, more like "you gotta be tethered to a 40 pound machine now). You only have 10 laptops in your highschool? Where the hell do you live? Antartica? Our library has it's own set of thinkpads (both r40's and r50's) which is probably close to 30 laptops in the library as it gets packed. We also have a media room with about 20-30 eMac's they use for media, aswell as the odd ibook and other random computer they have here, oh yeah and the crap P III's they use for the desktops look like they came refurbished or something from a buisness office.
I live in Madison Wisconsin (The Capital of the fucking state).Yeah we have a desktop in pretty much every class room but are school is really ghetto. Listen to this, we have a full time cop at our school and the first day of school someone got tasered! We have pretty crappy budget too. We don't have enough money to buy dry erase boards for every class room so we defiantly are not going to get laptops. Is this school you go to public? A high school right?
Punkguyta (author)  joejoerowley9 years ago
Lol, so I ask, is everyone patrionistic over there? Ghetto, yeah we don't have that kind of shit up here until you get into the cities, I live in the middle of no where, with a school technically in the middle of no where (okay so being in a 12,000 person town ain't middle of no where, but it ain't toronto for sure) and my highschool does in fact have blackboards in each room. Hell I even get wireless on their laptops out in the portables (I don't remember the school ever having outside Access points, and I get good signal). My one teacher was telling me that in about a year we need to buy new laptops, possibly macbooks and he said that buying a cart or two probably won't be hard to convince the principal (I guess we have a crazy $2 BAZILLION dollar budget for stupid shit). I was like, man I'm guessing 10 macbooks is probably close if not more than 10 grand, and the carts here hold 20-30..wow. If thats the case I might help myself to a new macbook in the next new year :p
Yeah, next week we have mac world!!! Can't wait. My stock is going to own!
Punkguyta (author)  joejoerowley9 years ago
I wish I could go see it, are you going?
No. I wish I could though. Go back to my home town of San Francisco. :)
gmoon9 years ago
This restriction:

he tells me that I need to now, re-image my thinkpad with their school disc image they use on their machines...

Probably has something to do with:

....which I don't have to agree to doing..

and

So I wiped it of course, repartitioned it with a 30 and 10 gig partition...

somehow I contracted a nasty trojan downloader onto it..

Off hand, I'd guess it has something like NT domains behind the wep....but you haven't said whether you can log in to your account from other computers at school.

A couple points about techs:

--They would much rather clone the harddrive setup than configure by hand...quicker, they can install their preferred security and virus software, and it's much more controlled.

There's no guarantees in any school system that you can use whatever computer system, OS, etc. that you chose. It might be unreasonable, but control is the issue.

--We are coming out of winter "break," when they perform all kinds of server updates, etc. (I quote "break," since everything seems to get broken in those times...) This is probably one of the busiest times of year for them.

Also, get used to system techs being a pain in the ass. They have the same adversarial relationship in every business environment, too. IT departments are very 'top-down,' their policies usually reflect on the choices made by one person. And the will stick with those choices, good or bad, for years.
Punkguyta (author)  gmoon9 years ago
>Probably has something to do with: ....which I don't have to agree to doing.. .Then why'd he tell me my ibook (which does not have a school image, although they do have them) will work without modifying anything or putting an image on it?? >Off hand, I'd guess it has something like NT domains behind the wep....but you haven't said whether you can log in to your account from other computers at school. .I finally got an account created (ended up having to get another teacher to do it for me, only took 1 day, compared to the 3 weeks I've been waiting for this other teacher to do it for me, funny huh?) So yes, I can log in and it works that way. >A couple points about techs: --They would much rather clone the harddrive setup than configure by hand...quicker, they can install their preferred security and virus software, and it's much more controlled. . Right, I agree, and I know that's what I'd prefer to do aswell, but thats for the school's own network, not someone's personal laptop, you don't ask to put YOUR software on someone elses computer, it's fucking rude, believe it because I know myself I've come across similar cases. I know technically the thinkpad is not mine, however, it's not from their school like I mentioned, and they're basically gonna give it to me anyways because it's near the end of it's life right now anyways. >There's no guarantees in any school system that you can use whatever computer system, OS, etc. that you chose. It might be unreasonable, but control is the issue. . Yeah that is the issue, control,....control freak rather. I could see if it would jeapordize their system with me being connected to it, however he has never once said anything negative to me about install my own os/setting it up the way I like it and I even asked him if it's okay that I have my own xp install on there and he said yeah he's got a couple laptops at the school with their own installs on it too just for him. So Hmm eh? >--We are coming out of winter "break," when they perform all kinds of server updates, etc. (I quote "break," since everything seems to get broken in those times...) This is probably one of the busiest times of year for them. .You're crazy if you think winter is almost over, it's gonna snow like fuck in a couple days. I also don't see how it's so busy for him, as he doesn't appear to be a very busy man, he doesn't even handle most of the server configuration, they call in a school board admin to handle some of the heavy work (although he knows how to do things, at the same time I think he knows he doesn't know how to do em right, if that makes any sense). >Also, get used to system techs being a pain in the ass. They have the same adversarial relationship in every business environment, too. IT departments are very 'top-down,' their policies usually reflect on the choices made by one person. And the will stick with those choices, good or bad, for years. . Well I agree, but this teacher isn't the only tech at my school, and he seems to be the only one acting like a complete jackass all together. The school account for example, he kept telling me that he'd ask the school board admin to put my account in, for 3 weeks nearly I've waited and I mentioned something to one of my other teachers in class and she told me to go see the librarian, and sure enough he had me an account set up next day (as he has to call it in, so it takes a day, but hell of a lot faster than 3 fucking weeks, scuze the swearing). I'm also gonna apologize about this post, I scrolled up and noticed that there's like a bloody book up there, sorry!
gmoon Punkguyta9 years ago
You're crazy if you think winter is almost over, it's gonna snow like fuck in a couple days.

I wish.

'Winter break' is that period between mid-Dec and early-Jan when most schools are out-of-session. Maybe your school isn't structured like that.

I also don't see how it's so busy for him, as he doesn't appear to be a very busy man, he doesn't even handle most of the server configuration, they call in a school board admin to handle some of the heavy work (although he knows how to do things, at the same time I think he knows he doesn't know how to do em right, if that makes any sense).

Yeah, who knows? Because educational administrators aren't always very tech-savvy, I've seen major IT decisions made by secretaries. So it's not surprising in some venues that sys techs basically define their jobs themselves. It's pretty difficult to supervise these guys.

Anyway, ask anyone who deals with edu institutions--the breaks are when they perform all the major system maintenance.

Unfortunately, IT departments are a necessary evil....Good luck to ya, hope it gets easier, not harder....