I rly wanted a balance board...


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dogsrcool2me10 years ago
it rly makes ppl not wanna answr when u use bad grammer On another note the board looks, nice good job.
evy-wevy (author)  dogsrcool2me10 years ago
no wai, thnks rly.... i hate when individuals say me and my friend, I automatically correct them with My friend and I!
i hate when individuals say me and my friend, I automatically correct them with My friend and I!

Depends on usage ;) Both are correct at some point or another... To check, take the other part out ;)

For example:

Me and my friend went to the store. or My friend and me went to the store.
remove the other party
Me went to the store.

Obviously incorrect. (Correct being: I went to the store --> I and my friend....)

Now.....

The invitation was for my friend and me.
removing other party
The invitation was for me.

Sounds correct. Now let's replace with my friend and I :

The invitation was for my friend and I.
remove other party
The invitation was for I.

Sounds terrible that way :P

Lastly, friend before self or self before friend.... That just depends on how nice and polite you want to be :P Ordered subjects don't care grammatically where they are placed :P

Just sharing a neat little trick I use when proof reading :) Of course, "I" is typically never used in formal writing and especially not technical writing :P
That's the same trick I use, EXCEPT in 3rd grade, we learned "My Friend's, family, and wonderful teacher Mrs. Lopez before me"
EXCEPT in 3rd grade, we learned "My Friend's, family, and wonderful teacher Mrs. Lopez before me"

That's just being polite :P Subjects don't care what order... cat? or dog first? Of course, Lemurs come before cats :P There's nothing wrong with putting things in a certain order -- but it's not a rule :P It's especially evident when you remove the human side of your subject :)
That is a rule...You always put "me" or "i" last. Its My friends and I went to the movies. Many people would say Me and my friends went to the movies..which is of course, wrong. But, the way youre saying it, "I and my friends went to the movies" would be correct.
That is a rule...You always put "me" or "i" last.

AskOxford

Incidentally, saying 'my friend and I' instead of 'I and my friend' is not better grammar, it's just being polite.


I also grabbed by Quick Access Book (For anyone that does ANY type of writing - be it creative, technical, etc. - this type of book is a must have). It calls the test I outlines above the "Troyka Test" - funny, as the author is Troyka :P There's another interesting rule used after a linking verb:

The contest winner was I.

Because I renames the subject (contest winner), the subjective personal pronoun is used instead of "me."

and

The prize was mine.

Because mine shows possession and the reference is possessive.


Again, if you're going to be doing any form of professional writing - you really need some form of reference book. This particular one covers everything from how to document research in several formats (including MLA, Chicago Manual and COS) to tips for multilingual writers :)
My english teacher who has a phd in english literature, says that "I and my friends went to the movies" is incorrect.
Mind you, English literature is very different from English mechanics ;) Not to take any respect from a pHd :)

But that's fine - I still can't find any official rule about proper pronoun ordering.

I did find another interesting discussion from that same google search:
EnglishForums.com
I am more a technical person not an language person. I was just restating what my teacher said, though I think you may be right.
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