I think I figured out time travel!!!.....sort of :(
I think I stumbled upon the secret to time travel thanks to the thoughts provoked by a previous topic.
The secret to it is storage!!
as of now time travel to go backwards is to try and get to a place that no longer exists. its like trying to watch last sundays football game but you didn't hit recored on the VCR.
As I see it if we want to ever suceed at time travel we need a way to recored and regenerate/exactly simulate life. right now time travel is only possible in minute viewings on recorded video. in order to fully exsperience and interact with life as it was we would need to invent a way to recored the planet and store it for future simulations, ala star trek halodeck.
we need to come up with a way to capture life or at least a 3D true to life recording of it. This seems a daunting task but if it were ever achievable we would the be able to experience previous times. if maybe or AI abilities improved we could then apply this to future time travel.... come up with a way to extract information from the recordings we have to generate a logically sound hypothetical projection of future existence.
ya, ya.... I know I'm retarded..... but it makes sence to me
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Dec 10, 2007. 3:36 PMCinder2007
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Well, time travel has never really been a secret. It's just that time is relative to the observer, hence einstein's theory of relativity. In order to successfully time travel , we would need to be able to move at the speed of life. SO say you have a rocket, it goes at the speed of light, you get in, and travel for 60 seconds. You would not age but the 60 seconds. Everyone else would age the amount of time it would take to normally travel the amount of space you traveled. It's not possible to travel back in time, only forward, dont ask me why i dont really know how to explain it, you just cant.
Oct 30, 2008. 12:15 PMscienceguy
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What about chaos theroy and the bending of space-time, plus light cones. And what about event horizons and the properities of dimentional travel through the use of tesseracts.
One widely held belief about Einstein is that he failed math as a student, an assertion that is made, often accompanied by the phrase â€as everyone knows,†by scores of books and thousands of websites designed to reassure underachieving students. A Google search of Einstein failed math turns up more than 500,000 references. The allegation even made it into the famous â€Ripley’s Believe it or Not!†newspaper column.
Alas, Einstein’s childhood offers history many savory ironies, but this is not one of them. In 1935, a rabbi in Princeton showed him a clipping of the Ripley’s column with the headline â€Greatest living mathematician failed in mathematics.†Einstein laughed. â€I never failed in mathematics,†he replied, correctly. â€Before I was fifteen I had mastered differential and integral calculus.†In primary school, he was at the top of his class and â€far above the school requirements†in math. By age 12, his sister recalled, â€he already had a predilection for solving complicated problems in applied arithmetic,†and he decided to see if he could jump ahead by learning geometry and algebra on his own. His parents bought him the textbooks in advance so that he could master them over summer vacation. Not only did he learn the proofs in the books, he also tackled the new theories by trying to prove them on his own. He even came up on his own with a way to prove the Pythagorean theory.
The Link
Was Einstein Learning disabled ?
Some researchers claim to detect in Einstein’s childhood a mild manifestation of autism or Asperger’s syndrome. Simon Baron-Cohen, the director of the autism research center at Cambridge University, is among those. He writes that autism is associated with a â€particularly intense drive to systemize and an unusually low drive to empathize.†He also notes that this pattern â€explains the ‘islets of ability’ that people with autism display in subjects like math or music or drawing -- all skills that benefit from systemizing.â€* I do not find such a long-distance diagnosis to be convincing. Even as a teenager, Einstein made close friends, had passionate relationships, enjoyed collegial discussions, communicated well verbally and could empathize with friends and humanity in general.
Alas, Einstein’s childhood offers history many savory ironies, but this is not one of them. In 1935, a rabbi in Princeton showed him a clipping of the Ripley’s column with the headline â€Greatest living mathematician failed in mathematics.†Einstein laughed. â€I never failed in mathematics,†he replied, correctly. â€Before I was fifteen I had mastered differential and integral calculus.†In primary school, he was at the top of his class and â€far above the school requirements†in math. By age 12, his sister recalled, â€he already had a predilection for solving complicated problems in applied arithmetic,†and he decided to see if he could jump ahead by learning geometry and algebra on his own. His parents bought him the textbooks in advance so that he could master them over summer vacation. Not only did he learn the proofs in the books, he also tackled the new theories by trying to prove them on his own. He even came up on his own with a way to prove the Pythagorean theory.
The Link
Was Einstein Learning disabled ?
Some researchers claim to detect in Einstein’s childhood a mild manifestation of autism or Asperger’s syndrome. Simon Baron-Cohen, the director of the autism research center at Cambridge University, is among those. He writes that autism is associated with a â€particularly intense drive to systemize and an unusually low drive to empathize.†He also notes that this pattern â€explains the ‘islets of ability’ that people with autism display in subjects like math or music or drawing -- all skills that benefit from systemizing.â€* I do not find such a long-distance diagnosis to be convincing. Even as a teenager, Einstein made close friends, had passionate relationships, enjoyed collegial discussions, communicated well verbally and could empathize with friends and humanity in general.
Dec 10, 2007. 9:24 PMCinder2007
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...Do you know why he failed math? Or do you just blurt out the first thing that comes to mind? If you are implying that einstein was dumb, than you are severly mistaken. He was dyslexic. (his brain flips around images, numbers, words.) Einstein was/is one of the greatest minds the world has/will ever know. I suggest you think before you type next time.
Because time, like an inch or a meter is considered to be only a measurement, and little else. Thus we don't really "move" in time, we occupy the present moment, always, but that moment is relative to "endurance" and the speed at which the observer is moving.
I don't seek power, but I find knowledge very intriguing LOL
Knowledge = power = energy = mass
That's why really big, old bookshops have all those odd little aisles and corridors that shouldn't really fit in the space they do, and end in tiny little doors too small to use - the weight of all those words is bending space and time.
(Concept: T.Pratchett)
That's why really big, old bookshops have all those odd little aisles and corridors that shouldn't really fit in the space they do, and end in tiny little doors too small to use - the weight of all those words is bending space and time.
(Concept: T.Pratchett)
Knowledge = power = energy = mass
So that is what is making me so "massive" LOL *sigh*
So that is what is making me so "massive" LOL *sigh*
Yep, makes sense to me. The commonly posed problem with time travel (as you more or less hit on) was how if a time travel machine were invented, you could only travel back in time to the point when the machine was turned on.
Er, you are travelling into the future, at a rate of 24 hours per day.
Quite fast enough for me, thank you very much.
Quite fast enough for me, thank you very much.
If you feel me there again, I'll give you such a slap ;-)
(Checks floor, looks over shoulders) Nope, no grammar around me - it's all on the screen in front of me. (Yes, well, it amused me)
I see this more as viewing good records of the past, not actually traveling in time. One of the simplest way to get something like time travel would be to travel faster than the speed of light. That way, you would see what was there, before the light was updated.
Dec 10, 2007. 2:34 PMsugg22
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read Timeline by Michael Crichton, then make yourself remember that it is fiction, and that time travel can't really happen/
One of the limitations of the experiment/school we are in, is that we are bound by time. There are ways to not be bound by time (i.e. God) but I don't know how. As for storage and recall, our perceptions are the limit of our consciousness. The world we know is in essence only what we know and believe, at least to us. We may comprehend that there is more outside our experience, but we do not experience it. We can always go back inside our memories, imperfect as they are, and relive events. Some people actually seemed doomed to relive traumatic events over and over, remembering the sights and smells, their emotions. Personally, I think focusing on the moment, and preparing for the future's arrival are far more useful for most of us, though when our bodies become feeble, our memories will bring sunshine to us on rainy winter days. I don't believe we'll be able to break the bonds of time on our own. As one philosopher asked, if time travel is possible, where are all the time travelers?
Dec 10, 2007. 6:41 AMLftndbt
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I reckon you right chris.... It needs to be stored... And how do you record and recall infinity instantanious moment's with individual properties? I'll tell you how, internal mass storage devices with optical pickup's that's how!! LoL, I'm fairly serious though. If everyone recorded what they viewed and interacted with daily throughso none invasive means. This could be downloaded and accumilated into a virtual world, if you'd like... With the co-operative effort by enough participant's, enough data would be able to be analysed to access certain event's... Eg. If a event has accured that has caused significant reprocution's, what would we the last possible place/event, where it could be countered and negated before it takes it's path... Now if there has been enough dated collected, that point could be in the present moment allowing us to set into said event's to counter the effect's of the past, before it take's affect... Thus altering past even'ts with present activities..... To give future result's... Your right, "time travel", I believe will consist moreso of us "plotting" past event cycles to alter reaction's in the future and the past is anything after the moment, so if it is mapped then we can determine how to change it later... You dont actually have to go to the future or past to alter them, just map it out.. ;)
See the overall problem with time travel is that time does not exist. time is just something that happens and man organized it in a mathematical system and called it time. out of all the theories of time travel that is suggested none explain how previous time could still exist. trying to come back to this moment 20 years from now won't ever be a reality because as I type, this this moment ceases to exist. which is why I suggest the need for storage...... the only way to come back to the moment I typed this it would need to be recorded and stored so there was something to come back too.
Hmm, wouldn't this be more of a movie, ie a holodeck? It would still be cool...
I figured it would work by warping space and time, to make you arrive anywhere, anytime.
Hmm... I wouldn't call this time-travel by the strict definition, but it is interesting.
If I understand you correctly, you're just saying record everything, and they play it back in simulated reality... hmm...
"Real" time travel is hypothetically possible, if we could control wormholes, but you have to keep in mind, you can never ffect your past, every quantum decision made splits the universe, and by going back in time, you split the universe, only altering this new split reality.
If I understand you correctly, you're just saying record everything, and they play it back in simulated reality... hmm...
"Real" time travel is hypothetically possible, if we could control wormholes, but you have to keep in mind, you can never ffect your past, every quantum decision made splits the universe, and by going back in time, you split the universe, only altering this new split reality.
right, I get all that........ but what is it exactly your going back too? in order for there be something to go back too it has to continue to exist.
Dec 9, 2007. 6:35 PMiman
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has any one seen the movie "Primer" it is about time travel it was pretty sweet
That may already be possible, if certain theories regarding the nature of the universe as a simulation so detailed and complex that the objects simulated within (us) are unaware that they are, in fact, little more than characters in video game.
(No, I don't mean a Matrix-style simulation, where our brains are wired into a computer and have a physical existence outside the simulation, but one where our actual brains and bodies, plus all reality that we experience, are simulations, not physically real at all)
(No, I don't mean a Matrix-style simulation, where our brains are wired into a computer and have a physical existence outside the simulation, but one where our actual brains and bodies, plus all reality that we experience, are simulations, not physically real at all)
Yeah, but we can't access the "above world", if we could, that'd be awesome.
Lets try...
Did it work!?
Lets try...
humans['Zach Banks'].stats.muscles *= 10humans['Zach Banks'].stats.iq *= 10Wait... why not
for(stat in humans['Zach Banks'].stats){ stat *=10}humans['Zach Banks'].items.append('cookie)...what? I like cookies...Did it work!?
Nope, since the "traveler" accidentally changed history (or to us, the future|), what was recorded on the cookie got altered also LOL
Hehe :P That wasn't anything to do with Time Travel... just... if we were in a simulation, I'd like a cookie...
oh ok (duh-ah) I can't seem to type vewy well tonight either LOL
Dec 9, 2007. 9:06 AMguyfrom7up
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or you can just stand up and spin counterclockwise really fast
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