Is homeopathy a proven science?

Hi again people!

This is yet another question to which i have to get definitive answers. 

Is Homeopathy a proven science?

Alternate medicines like homeopathy, Ayurveda are so common in my country, that most people tend to believe them blindly and are ready to take "medicines" from them for all kinds of problems, from Not-really-worth-bothering stuff like common cold, to moderate stuff like diabetes, and even extreme life threatening cases like cancer.

To be honest, even i didn't bother looking into them much and few years back, i thought MAYBE it does work, after all so many people take it. But in my recent years, i have developed a condition known as psoriasis, so i had to start bothering as most people force me to take these medicines, as thus far, "Allopathy" does not have treatment to this condition. But alternative medicines claim they do. i was getting a little skeptical. When i started really questioning stuff, i didn't get quite satisfactory answers. Doing a little research on my own, i have seen videos from one of my favourite intellect, Prof.Richard Dawkins. He says that homeopathy is mostly bogus. When i question this to the people around me, specially the elders, they just throw it out of the window, and tell me that i am too young to understand stuff, and people who claim things know nothing about these kind of stuff. It is the same in case of Ayurveda.

How far are these claims true? Is homeopathy(Alternative medicine in general) a bogus? If that is the case, then why is it so famous? Why is the community adopting it despite all this? Or have i misunderstood the concept? Do pardon me if my question was too long :)

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Many modern treatments started in homeopathic treatments.
Opium to morphine
Curare for one and Belladonna or Deadly Nightshade used as an anesthetic going back to the middle ages.
Called witchcraft and voodoo at times homeopathy was frowned upon by the church.
To tell the truth the only reason homeopathy is not wider spread is three reasons.
1 production, they can’t make enough to treat everyone.
2 patents, can’t patent natural products in short can’t patent a recipe.
3 the placebo effect, some treatments need you to believe.
My wife was dealing with postpartum depression the antidepressant she was prescribed had bad side effects when she switched to St Johns whort and she felt much better.
Are you confusing "homeopathy" with "naturopathy"? The latter involves the use of unrefined or non-synthetic drugs derived directly from plants, as with your examples, along with yew bark (-> aspirin), eucalyptus, aloe vera, etc.

The former, homeopathywhich is what the OP was asking about, involves the use of similarity magic and belief in nonphysical water memory, in particular through the use of > 10-24 dilutions (i.e., where there is less than one molecule of the original solute present).
Curare and Belladonna or Deadly Nightshade you cut it like there is no tomorrow.

Curare and Belladonna are a poison to a healthy person but diluted it is a treatment to the sick.

I believe that is homeopathy.
Well, there's dilution and there's homeopathic "dilution." Belladonna is used therapeutically now as a pain reliever, in few-milligram dosage. The amount in the raw plant is much higher than that, so yes, it's diluted by a factor of 100 to 1000. Similarly for other active ingredients as you mention.

Homeopathy deals with dilutions of 1,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
You are pushing the dilution to the extremes some homeopathic dilutions are as low as 3 and some are as high as 1000. Some homeopathic dilutions even go as high as 1x10-30 but not all homeopathic dilutions are high.

In the case of pure Curare one of the most deadly toxins on earth, the amount that would fit on the head of a pin touching your skin will kill you in seconds. So in its case a high dilution is prudent.

He also asked about alternative medicines like homeopathy and that would be naturopathy like the St Johns whort which I mentioned.

You are right at the extreme dilutions like writing the prescription on a piece of paper and pining it to their coat.

Not a joke some homeopathic treatments are just that, however I am not talking about voodoo.
Sorry, can you point me toward homeopathic remedies with such sensible dilutions?

What I have found is that the "standard unit" in professional homeopathy is called "C", and refers to a 1:100 dilution. Typical preparations are no less than 6C, and usually more like 8C to 12C (the latter being the 10-24 I like to quote, since it is approximately Avogadro's number).

Sensible preparations, such as you quote (for things like St. John's wort, chamomille, and other "herbal remedies") are comparable to standard medicines (milligrams to 100's of milligrams of the active ingredient, mixed with a binder to make pills). At least in the U.S. those preparations are labelled "herbal" or "naturopathic", not "homeopathic."
Avo's # is 6.02X10^47 times larger than your supposed approximation and is a whole number not a fraction. By using just magnitude of the factor as a comparison your approximation is still off by a factor of 16.02 times that number. If you were 16x taller would that be approximately your height? NO! Cmon man use the brain cells.
Sorry. Avogadro's number is 6.02 x 1023 (the most recent CODATA value is 6.02214129(27) x 1023 mol-1, where the value in parentheses is the standard deviation on the last two quoted digits). A homeopathic value of 12C corresponds to a dilution of 10-24, which means less than one molecule of the original solute per mole (18 g) of water.

I use my brain cells all the time. I get paid good money to do so, unlike the homeopaths, and apparently some others.
Curate isn't a poison though it's a paralysing agent. It suppresses the voluntary nervous system but leaves the autonomic alone afair.
First of all you are mistaken about the autonomic, one of the common usages of Curare is during abdominal surgery it stops the intestines from wriggling around like a bucket of worms while you are trying to stich them back together, and the intestines are not the voluntary nervous system.

I would have to check because I don’t know where Curate comes from but Curare from the poison arrow frog used for a thousand years as poison darts and poison arrows. Ok maybe you typoed, but it is called a neurotoxin and the science is called toxicology.
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