Is the KNEX gun community dead?

So there has not been a post in the KNEX forum section for weeks about KNEX guns and It is getting so slow and dead around here that I could not stand it any more so I thought I would post a topic to see what others think.

Are any of you working on stuff? I know some KNEX gunners have moved to YouTube but there is still very little content also a lot of people have left I know years ago everybody was saying that the community was dead but there was a nice jump in activity in the last year or so but It seams that stuff is dead as meat around here know. I found this community to be are very welcoming and fun place on the internet and I would hate to see it dead for good. Is there anybody that has plans of posting again? I just want to know how things are going has everybody lost interest or just grown out of this hobby? I hope that we can come back to life but I don't know will 2015 go down as the year the KNEX gun community died?

Hope all is well with all you KNEXers! 

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DJ Radio2 years ago

I personally haven't kept up with the knex community for several years now (I'm one of the people who quit and moved to youtube personally), but I feel like a lot of the biggest names have also moved on and from what I saw there hasn't been a new crop of people that could establish themselves or have a level of innovation quite like the old generation could.

When I left we were at a peak where it seemed that we were making weapons with maximum efficiency, so in all honestly it might have just died off because knex gunning has been solved already, although like I said, I haven't kept up for a few years so maybe there's some new development I haven't heard of, but I actually kind of doubt this.

I forgot you can't edit comments here. Anyway, I also gave the site another go-around and the link to the forums seems to be more buried than it was when I previously visited. I feel like the forums in general are getting less visibility than they were before.

sonic broom (author)  DJ Radio2 years ago

That could be true maybe will be the new home of the KNEX community.

most concurrent online users ever was 23.

Jeez, it seems even more dead than the ibles knex forum.

sonic broom (author)  DJ Radio1 year ago

It's just starting up though.

It's actually been consistently more active than the forum here. Though it is pretty much the same people there vs the same people here. Overall, there just isn't much activity in the K'nex community and that's sad. Somehow we failed to pass it onto the next generation and the current generation just doesn't try hard enough.

sonic broom (author)  DJ Radio2 years ago

I have a lot of innovative ideas but I just don't have the interest or skill to act on them I hope to get some more new things posted but I just have a lot of other things that interest me more.

TheDunkis2 years ago

Sadly we just get more people moving on than people joining. Back when I first started, it was a lot easier to get involved. There was so much left to discover, very simple novel contributions you could make. The problem isn't that there isn't a lot left to innovate but simply that there aren't that many people left to innovate. The more skilled people moved on for whatever reason. The less skilled people just tend to rehash the same things. Heck, it's difficult for me to make anything new even if I get an idea. I dunno, I don't think I'll ever stop building, but I only ever make something like once every half a year. What I'd like is for us to spread the word, get more people interested in K'nex gunning, and then make some guides to help them make more advanced builds sooner.

Knex gunning seems to have been solved around 6 years ago in terms of finding the best/most efficient design. I haven't been around in a while but Mepain's latest ible is basically his fine-tuned TR variant. Given that the TR design first debuted in 2009 and this ible was posted in 2015, it indicates to me that most of the skilled knexers seem to be focusing on just trying to have the finest tuned version of the same mechanism/design instead of trying to find the most efficient/reliable design at this point, since the most efficient/reliable design has already been found. It renders other potential innovations moot when it comes to performance and this results in stagnation. I didn't realize this at the time but I ended up moving on because I found myself just wanting to build variants of the best guns instead of trying to make my own unique design, since it seemed pointless to try.

To have a proper analogy, in Magic: the Gathering, a "Solved" format is a format where the best decks (the ones that have the best winning percentages) have been found, and the meta revolves around either having the best tuned versions of those decks, or having a deck that's been specifically designed to beat that deck. Such formats typically result in cards being banned to prevent stagnation and player loss.

And to me, this is BS. Why do some people -only- care about performance? What happened to making proof of concepts for the sake of new concepts? What happened to upping the bar? Even in the more serious crowd, there were some people who tried to innovate even if the concept wasn't practical. I dunno, I just find more fun in seeing if I can make an idea work regardless how well it does.

That all said, I don't think it has been "solved" so much as stagnated just like innovation in general. I could rehash my typical TR rant again, but it's basically summarized as this: the TR is essentially the AK-47 of the K'nex community, adored for its simplicity and reliability with acceptable, albeit still not optimal, performance.

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