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Knexpert

I think that the term Knexpert is too widely used. I think it should be for several (over 3) innovative builds (NOT for instance an old system with one or two pieces changed) or some very good replicas. Am I alone in this thinking? Discuss. And p.s. Am I the oldest active member on here now that hasn't moved mainly to KI? I don't mean oldest in age, but oldest in time on instructables. I think a few may still be here. I'm not sure.

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how many guns have you made then? have you got any instructables.if you do please reply to me
knexguy (author)  knex inventor3 years ago
I have made literally hundreds of knex weapons, mostly from instructions on here or KI but around 25 of my own builds. If you click my name you can see my instructables, but I post hardly anything, I'm lazy like that.
crestind4 years ago
Video related. This guy is the world's biggest K'nexpert.<br /> <br /> <object height="344" width="425"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NbhXmSBlS_U&hl=en&fs=1&" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NbhXmSBlS_U&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" /></object><br />
Lowney4 years ago
I've been using 'ibles since 2006, since I've had no need for an account. But then it became biased towards members and the fact that it seemed that I was the only person apart from Mepain and KillerK who had managed to make the SRv2, so I joined in february 2009! I think I did quite well, since already I'm on 1200 comments and 43 subbers! :) 
knexguy (author)  Lowney4 years ago
Loads of people made the SRV2.  It's one of the easier 'hard' guns on the site.
Lowney knexguy4 years ago
They did? I only ever saw KillerK's (obv) and Mepains mini version. Apart from perhaps a couple of others I thought that everyone else only made it from my guide
J Moneyman5 years ago
i don't know when i joined, but i think it was sortof close (by sort of, i mean still awhile ago, but not as far ago as you.) i think that people moving on to KI is just dumb. i know it's a good site and all, but now, there are barely any knex guns popping up. i agree with TheDunkis, when not many knex guns are being made, then the Knexpert standard gets lowered. i don't know what happened to the knex society on 'ibles. PS: i've noticed that KI doesn't really have new guns posted all that much. is it easier to post there, or do people just think that 'ibles too "lame"?
knexguy (author)  J Moneyman5 years ago
PS: i've noticed that KI doesn't really have new guns posted all that much. is it easier to post there, or do people just think that 'ibles too "lame"? That doesn't make sense; it is contradictory. But yes, it is harder to post on KI (barely though) .
oh. ok.
TheDunkis5 years ago
Yeah it's mainly because the KIers left and made it too easy to become a knexpert. If you leave knexperts in charge of choosing ohter knexperts then we'll get no where because most of them take the position lightly. I miss when the knelders ran the joint because it was a lot harder to impress them so much that they considered you one of them.
knexguy (author)  TheDunkis5 years ago
Yep. I say that we should be harsher about guns here, I saw a gun the other day that was a barrel and stick block trigger but, and I quote, "In a nice frame" This should not get comments from people praising it because that have not had enough time to realise that it was rubbish. Not naming names, but a few people have come along and, not by making bad guns but by putting good comments on bad guns, lowered the standards. I used to be really harsh about bad guns, but if I see 4 good comments I am compelled to go with the crowd. I am happy to announce this will no longer happen.
Lol yeah I remember when people were harsh to me about being harsh to others thinking my guns were all that. They were no better but I knew that theirs didn't deserve such high praise. I also try to be nice when leaving comments but from this day I'm not going so light if a gun sucks...well then it sucks.
knexguy (author)  TheDunkis5 years ago
I know, people have to understand that by telling someone else that their gun is bad doesn't mean that you are saying that your own guns are any better.
Mepain knexguy5 years ago
You do realize that most K'nexers on this website are under 13 years old, right?
DJ Radio Mepain5 years ago
obviously. Knex is a toy, for young childern, and yet, we all play with them... in our teens.
travw DJ Radio5 years ago
HAHA!!! Gotcha there! I'm not in my teens...
TheDunkis travw5 years ago
Yeah you're worse...you're of an age that typically 99% of you are immature and are the biggest contributers to unoriginal guns. Not saying that you are but...that's how it typically goes.
ur right. i think u have to have a certain intellectual capacity to construct well produced weapons that adolescence of an age lower than 13 can't seem to produce and comprehend. (let's see those kids try to figure out what that means.)
LMFAO! Pwned, completely.
travw yerjoking5 years ago
Yeah, I'm not sure that my earlier comment called for such un-biased accusations though.
yerjoking travw5 years ago
I was talking about what TD said to DJ...
he didnt say anything to me.... he was talking to Knex lover.
That was my point, lol.
travw yerjoking5 years ago
Oh, I kinda got pwned too though, so that's why I replied.
travw TheDunkis5 years ago
Ouch... Actually I am not immature poopy, and have not contributed ANY
un-original guns. (Just sayin', even though I can't really prove that I'm immature.)
..... Nice one
Thanks.
Not really a complimant nor an insult but ok...
I'LL TAKE IT!!! lol
TheDunkis travw5 years ago
Y'know you basically just took half of my comment and reposted it right?
DJ Radio travw5 years ago
you have to be to be a member of the site....
knexguy (author)  Mepain5 years ago
Unfortunately true. I'm getting bored of the attitide on here, but it is a pain to comment on KI.
Mepain knexguy5 years ago
KI is just a traditional forum. It's not too hard to reply.
knexguy (author)  Mepain5 years ago
Not as easy as here though. I don't like that you have to click a link back to the page you are commenting on.
Mepain knexguy5 years ago
Because one extra click is going to kill you. +P

If you wait long enough, the page does that automatically.
knexguy (author)  Mepain5 years ago
But I'm lazy! And impatient!
Mepain knexguy5 years ago
To each his own.

=)
knexguy (author)  Mepain5 years ago
XD
So basicly what you're saying is that the standard has gone down, because the best are not as good as they used to be?
Exactly! The people who are left slowly moved the standards down. Some of the knexperts are way too easily impressed and make it easy for others to come in thus lowering the standards even further. Now as long as you have a couple of guns that don't completely suck you can be a knexpert. It doesn't feel like an accomplishment because at least over half the knexers are knexperts. We should make another level to reach like knex master for the truly good people so I have something look forward to. haha kneteran= knex + veteran. Yeah there we go. We should also make a mid level for people like DJ who keep complaining. knegulars? Regular knexers.
Alright so it would be like this
knewb-new to knex and just starting out
knegular- been here for awhile and has some decent guns but not a step above average.
kneterans-The new knexperts or otherwise what used to be the lower ranked knexperts would now be this.
knexpert- We would hopefully revive this term to it's original meaning. It will mean you truly are an expert in knex.
Master- self explanatory
Lol sorry for the wall o' text but do you think that'll work? Maybe I should make a thread for that and we could fix up the community a bit.
I know this is kinda late, but have you talked to other people besides this. I really like the categories. I was also surprised with the amount of "knexperts" that were just suddenly added. You can easily tell that some of the "knexperts" are far better than other ones. You should go through with this idea, try talking to Viccie about his list.
Thanks but now I'm totally against the idea. The term knexpert has been tainted by everyone who thinks of it as nothing but a series of requirment that gains them automatic respect. I would like to point out the real knexperts compared to those who are just commonly accepted as good.
Who do you consider the real knexperts and how do you plan to distinguish them from the other ones?
Well it sort of depends. In my mind they're the people who managed to make a lot of well built projects like viccie and IaC. Let's just say I wouldn't consider myself a true knexpert. Yeah I'm good but I'm not a master at it. I think a knexpert should be someone that you can ask them to make something and they'll at least have an idea on how to make it. They wouldn't just build randomly but they would have plan on how to make something and at the same time they would experiment and know exactly how to improve it when they find out it's a good idea.
So what your saying is that a true knexpert knows how to build things, but also knows how each piece works and all their variables in them and is able to use them to the best of their ability. They constantly come up with new ideas that are innovative and still work.
Well yeah an expert in K'nex pretty much.
Do you plan to make a category for these experts then?
Sort of. At my forum they'll be recognized anyways.
Where is that? And you should make this more known to everyone. You know, spread the word.
http://knexables.uuuq.com/forum/index.php

I've been trying. DGM made a thread about for me.
Thanks. :)
knexguy (author)  TheDunkis5 years ago
You think THATs a wall of text, you should see my English coursework essay, and it is going to be the smallest I have to do... Only took my five days though. In fact I may upload a picture... There we go: To what extent is Macbeth the Architect of his own Undoing? (Don't ask)
2008-11-26-73192.jpg
we had to do an essay question on romeo and juliet in year 9!
knexguy (author)  CrazyCHRIS!!5 years ago
So did I, but it was Much Ado. for Y9 SATS? And if so, what did you get?
not even sats, just for the teachers fun, and He still has'nt marked them.
knexguy (author)  CrazyCHRIS!!5 years ago
Lol, new year though, probably binned them :(
MONSTER!!!!!!
knexguy (author)  CrazyCHRIS!!5 years ago
Lol!
HA
No we've finaly got the grades, i got... e grade... But that was in yr 9
I never get Amerian or English school year numbering ( I don't even know which is which ). What age is year 9?
I'm in year 9, its 13/14
um ok? its 14/15 here
For britain it isn't though.
i thought u were talking about america. i see....
basically add 1 year to your to your ages. There is a one year difference between a year and a grade.
No, in Holland we don't have a single counting system. It's simply the # year of either elementary, high school or college. I'm in the 4th year of high school, I did 8 years of elementary and I'm 15 years old. If year 9 is age 13-14, then that is the equivelant of year 2 of high school here. 9+1=10, and 8+2 is also 10, I know, but it simply doesn't work like that here +)
oops yeah I was thinking of Britain. Major no brainer you being Dutchj.
knexguy (author)  Dutchj5 years ago
It is age 13-14.
Dutchj knexguy5 years ago
Never read MacBeth, may need to in the future. Mastering the English language is not fun. 7 pages isn't that much though. Well, it is in essay terms, but it's still pretty short. You didn't use every page fully either. What size font is that in/word count? ( Don't ask, just curious )
knexguy (author)  Dutchj5 years ago
Not much, but I used some pretty fancy language analysis. Epizeuksis and Caesura are two I'm particularly proud of, lol. It is 2,200 words (200 over guide limit, but shouldn't matter) and is a quotation and analysis (Q&A) essay. Arial size 12 1.5 line space. First draft.
Dutchj knexguy5 years ago
2200 words isn't that bad. Suppose for the shortest one it's still pretty long though. What year are you in?
knexguy (author)  Dutchj5 years ago
Y10- 15 years old.
I think we shouldn't label people and let their projects speak for themselves.
Then let's just abolish the term knexpert forever and live in harmony...
K'nexpert is actually something official the people from K'nex made up. Anyway, I agree that standards are going down, but I don't think labeling people will work. Then everyone would be dependant on what others thought. If everyone thinks you're a K'nexpert, you may not be willing to improve as much on yourself. Not to mention people will think they're not being rated fairly. It brings a lot of problems with it. P.S. And the names you made up kind of suck in my opinion, yeah...
yeah but then let's just not talk about how good people are...let's just leave it at how many subscribers you have to feel good about yourself if anything. It probably won't work but we just ought to destroy the term knexpert here. Before it was made to describe the better people and now it's an accomplishment that new knexers have to reach. They don't care what they do. They lose fun over building because all they think about is becoming well known.
DJ Radio Mepain5 years ago
nicely put....
ajleece5 years ago
After reading this section and some of the comments I can see that some people are becomeing knexperts too easily. But fistly, are there any knexperts that don't make guns?
knexguy (author)  ajleece5 years ago
Well, Trainman is probably more famous for his ball machines than guns, even though they are very good...
ajleece knexguy5 years ago
i forgot about Darth Trainman (Trainman 2000)
knexguy (author)  ajleece5 years ago
I think he is probably the only one...
dsman1952765 years ago
hmm, well it's a thought, i never really found that to be much of a problem. it's not like being labeled as a knexpert changes someone for ever. i really try not to listen to who people label as a knexpert and who they don't, i just look at there projects and decide from there. but in my opinion if someone is good at making knexguns or whatever out of knex and has a really snobby or stuck up attitude i think of them as less then a knexpert. i would way rather have people that are ok at building and nice then people that are amazing at building and are really mean. i see a knexpert as someone willing to help others with builds, ideas, ways to make things better and what not, and helps to improve others ideas, gets well known in the community, and DOESN'T post stuff just to try to get more famous. of coarse, people can change, and at least try to act nicer. and being mean is sometimes need(TO A EXTENT) to get people thinking the right way, but if you're not willing to help people out and be nice, then you can just leave right now.
i personaly think the same, if your a knexpert you find ways to increase performance of a mech to its maximum. but come up with some other mech
DJ Radio5 years ago
Before I consider someone a knexpert, I go on these factors

  • community opinion- that is half of my criteria- what does everyone else think on this guy
  • guns- They should have no block triggers, or at least guns that show they can build better than the block triggers that were posted. Their guns must show that they know what they are doing, and should have good power, and range (accuracy isnt a factor in my book, as I can make up for the slack on a gun that is not very accurate).
  • other stuff- if they dont have guns, they aren't a knexpert, unless their non-gun projects are very good, and sometimes, massive....
no, I think dutchj is older than you in terms of ibles time. I think he is here more than KI. This is certain, unless you count KILLERK to be an active member, in which case, its not dutchJ
knexguy (author)  DJ Radio5 years ago
And you seem very confident in your ability to aim, have you ever shot at a target with a real rifle and if so what was your score and grouping from 25m? I don't remember DutchJ back then, but he may have had a name change, I'll check his profle.
I shot with a real bow at the target, and I had high accuracy. Bulls eye on first shot! that was 3 years ago, so I have better accuracy now.....
knexguy (author)  DJ Radio5 years ago
What distance? Doubt you can remember lol. And you will not necessarily have better accuracy not you are older... My latest .22 rifle results at 25m at Bisley 5 target score cards (don't know what they are called) were (at 2 shots a target) an average score of 16 and an average grouping of 1.5 inches. p.s. Looking at the times, shouldn't you be at school?
25m......... Ok then..... No, I have thanksgiving break.....
knexguy (author)  DJ Radio5 years ago
Ok no all counts.
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knexguy (author)  DJ Radio5 years ago
Typo, I meant ok. I wonder if the pic will show up AGAIN...
knexguy (author)  knexguy5 years ago
No, it didn't. YAY!
Dutchj DJ Radio5 years ago
It's not spelled with a capital j, just with a regular one. And yes, I do think I'm one of the people that has been around longest. My account was created in march 2007. I still hang out here a lot because there are a lot more people here then on KI. Also, as to why knexguy couldn't remember me, it could be due to my lack of activity in the beginning. I was on 'ibles every day, but I didn't really post anything. At least I think I didn't. And no, I've never changed my name. About the topic question: I agree that the term K'nexpert is being used a lot on here. Another thing that I find weird is that people are only concidered K'nexperts when they have posted good guns. I think someone who builds ball machines or roller coasters for instance, can be as much of a K'nexpert.
knexguy (author)  Dutchj5 years ago
Ah, ok. I agree on the ball machince etc. point too. Glitched is a prime example.
knexguy (author)  DJ Radio5 years ago
I don't agree with the hate of block triggers, I view them as an extra, not a requirement. For instance, I would favour a block trigger that could achieve 50 feet to a true trigger that could fire 30 feet.
The main reason that 'block trigger hating' started was that for a few months most K'nex Instructables were just connector tubes with a block trigger and a stick for a handle, these thus became the 'block triggers' - that is the gun as a whole. So people disliked the triggers for being associated with the bane of the community. Then as true triggers became more and more reliable people began to dislike block triggers themselves for being out of date technology when it wasn't so hard to improve them and the people who posted them for not looking around the site and seeing the new mechanisms - especially those builders who constructed to make something new rather than to shoot.
Well, I have nothing against them myself, but I follow the crowd....
'other stuff- if they dont have guns, they aren't a knexpert, unless their non-gun projects are very good, and sometimes, massive....' I think you are still good if you don't have any K'nex gun Instructables as long as what you have posted is high quality.
Der Bradly5 years ago
I totally agree with everything you say, the only reason i have not posted more guns is that i want to be cautios about how people think about my guns... so i only post the ones that a perfect...
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