Listen here...

Hey guys,

I have been contemplating this forum topic for quite some time. I have debated with myself as to whether I should post a topic like it, or just ignore the problem(s). I have decided to go with the former, as it seems to me that there are things that need to be addressed. Not everybody is going to like/agree with what I have to say, but, I have always though that the best way to get people to think is to displease them.

I have noticed that for some time now that people will spend more time talking about their own guns than the gun that they are posting the comment on. In other words, imagine that you have posted a new gun, and some person leaves a comment that looks somewhat like this: "Nice gun! I an currently working on a new crossbow that I think you will really like. It gets 100 ft. of range, it looks awesome, and it has a great 're-load time.' I hope that you check it out when it is posted, and give it a vote in the contest that it is posted in."

I would humbly submit to you that that entire message is spam. If you are going to leave a comment on somebody else's 'ible, please do. BUT, don't make 95% of the message about how awesome your new gun is/whatever. The message is supposed to be a comment about/on the 'ible you are posting that particular comment on. It's kinda annoying to look at my own (and other people's) 'ibes just to find that they are full of "my new gun is posted here" type comments.

Secondly, I want to talk a little about the classics. No, not classic music, but about the classic K'NEX guns. I will make this as clear as possible. The TR8/18 and the NAR are (in my opinion) outdated. Yes, they may get good range. Yes, they may only use a few amount of pieces, but this is NO excuse to bombard every 'ible with "well, this gun is good, but it is not as good as the TR8/NAR." I mean no offense, but nobody cares. I really don't think that anyone is trying to rival those guns, but there are guns that do so. The TR8 and the NAR may have been good guns, but they are from 2009, the K'NEX community has moved on. You may want to argue with me, but I will probably end up ignoring you.

Sorry for making this comment so long, but those problems really do need to be addressed. I did not mean to offend anyone, and if I did, I am sorry, but you must understand how I, and multiple others, might feel. Peace.

- The Red Book of Westmarch

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CODawesome3 years ago
I agree, but think back to everyone's first 'ible. Everyone wanted recognition by posting "check out my 'ible!" on other people's forums. but the reason is that they wanted recognition. I even admit that i did this multiple times during my first couple of 'ibles, such as "check out my new semi auto gun!" on other people's 'ibles and forums, just for recognition. but as i matured, i realized this was obviously annoying to others, so i stopped. What i'm saying, is that almost everyone has said "check out my stuff!" during their first time on instructables, and even on other sites, too. Whoever's reading this, take a look at your past.
Agreed. Simple as that.
this totally needed to be said
Finally, someone agrees with me. =D
lol =D I don't actually believe I am the only one that agrees
Good. =D
TheRacker3 years ago
The issue with the TR8/NAR isn't that they are old or getting spammed. It's that you built them incorrectly, they didn't' perform correctly because of that, and you said they weren't good undeservedly. There is a reason they are so famous. And they don't get "outdated". Some guns can, yes, but these have been designed so well from the get go that they still outperform most and there isn't much to improve on. I have yet to see a gun shoot through wood like the NAR.  And in every knex war held so far, most people ended up ditching their guns for a TR.  There are more complex guns, there are guns that do cooler things, there are guns now with more features, but when it comes to performance those are still really the guns to beat.

No one was attacking you.  They just wanted to point out that your review was flawed.
I did not say that the TR/NAR are getting spammed. XD

And I don't know how many times I half to say this, so I'll put it in caps. I BUILT BOTH CORRECTLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE RATINGS I GAVE THEM DOES NOT MEAN THAT I BUILT THEM INCORRECTLY. As I said in the 'ible, the pictures of the NAR are not pictures of the NAR that I built. The are SUBSTITUTE PICTURES. Go ahead and read ALL of the review again, carefully. I made some changes so that people will understand this easier.

Sorry for being unapparent. I am as speech and debater, and I am taught to read more than what might be in the post/scrip/article. Thus I sometimes post things that are obvious to me, but may not be to others. I am only human...

And, just because you don't like my review, does not mean it is flawed. You did not like the ratings I gave to guns that "everybody" else likes. As my mom always says: "deal with it." If you don't like what I had to say, ignore it. Period. =D

No hard feelings.
I quote: "I BUILT BOTH CORRECTLY." You didn't...

They're were built very nicely, mind you, but they weren't build right; you even admitted so with the NAR: you said you substituted the mini NAR pin. I'm digging through these arguments and am kind of having a face-palm-fest. I don't mean to be mean, or offensive or anything, and I hope no hard feelings come of this and all, but I'd really like a real rebuttal: a statement that I can argue against other than: "Just ignore me," or "It won't effect your life;" you very well may be right about your views on K'nex guns, and I think this argument is essential for the development of K'nex guns, but I mean...

Dismissing all the arguments with a few smileys and then saying "No hard feelings" at the end isn't really a good way to start a good, productive argument. If you believe in something and know it to be true, then argue your case.

And if you don't reply back to this and just 'ignore' me, then that's cool, too, but it won't prove your point at all.

Arguments are necessary in life, but the argument on both sides has to have documentation and be founded, you know?

Wow, I can't believe I was bored enough to type all that...

Glad that I'm getting out of the house and going to a party soon. >:L

No hard feelings I hope. :D

(And when do people ever mention soft feelings, really?)
Well did you not see the video I linked? The NAR is way more powerful than I said, and that is why everyone was upset with what you posted. As well as KillerK shooting through drywall with his TR. So something was up with your guns. I don't know what.
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