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Overtly sexual photographs.

Smart parents monitor their children's internet activities, but they probably never thought they'd need to consider blocking Instructables due to overt sexual content. 

Is a woman groping her chocolate covered breasts really considered kid-friendly by this community? 

  

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blkhawk says: Mar 2, 2013. 12:23 PM
I was also concerned when I saw the instructable. I have to say that it was a very erotic picture but the author covered her breasts in a very suggestive manner of course. Although there were no explicit nudity it was very risquè.

Do you know the difference between art and pornography?

A government grant! :-)
bajablue (author) in reply to blkhawkMar 8, 2013. 8:17 AM
Don't forget the event we've all been waiting for!  The University of Cincinnati's Display of Vaginal Art.





blkhawk in reply to bajablueMar 8, 2013. 11:32 AM
I still have to watch the play Vagina Monologues. I believe it is followed by the "Penis Rebuttal". :-)
bajablue (author) in reply to blkhawkMar 11, 2013. 9:51 AM
I think I'd pass. ;-)
Lithium Rain in reply to blkhawkMar 9, 2013. 10:18 AM
I do feel it's important to note that that play has more going on than "pornography" or appeal to the prurient interest, however. :)
blkhawk in reply to Lithium RainMar 9, 2013. 11:30 AM
Our university has the same play every year. I understand that some of the play has been criticized for the negative portrayal of heterosexual love in favor of lesbianism.
caitlinsdad in reply to Lithium RainMar 9, 2013. 10:58 AM
the former or the latter?
caitlinsdad in reply to blkhawkMar 8, 2013. 9:27 PM
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bajablue (author) in reply to caitlinsdadMar 9, 2013. 7:32 AM
;-D
blkhawk in reply to caitlinsdadMar 9, 2013. 4:16 AM
Thumbs up! Very funny!
Kimberly^ in reply to blkhawkMar 2, 2013. 12:41 PM
LOL @ government grant.
killerjackalope says: Mar 1, 2013. 4:29 PM
I can't find this... Did find a bra made out of cookies and a body cast made of chocolate...

Also where have my newsletters got to this year?

In general instructables tows a good path on the whole smut argument...
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 1, 2013. 4:57 PM
"In general, instructables tows a good path..."?  I might agree with that, but I really have no idea if there actually are clearly defined content parameters here.

 
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 1, 2013. 5:09 PM
There aren't unless they were implemented since I last ran up against the bounds of the family friendly site ethos - it's done by feel and judgment... Really a good way to do things in my eyes.

The main image says covering for quazi decent image. The one further down is a little gropey, however it's not any worse than perfume/lingerie/shampoo adverts. (IMO)

There's one other thing - this took dedication to the cause of chocolate, having been there, that's a hell of a lot of body paint to lick off...

On the decency line you see the store bought stuff in gift aisles a lot so I'd guess that really it cuts above the line of bad taste, with some extremely obvious winks and nudges.
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 1, 2013. 5:49 PM
Winks and nudges acknowledged, KJ.  I'm shocked to hear you ran abreast with similar inappropriate content... truly shocked! ;-)
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 1, 2013. 7:26 PM
Go back a ways in my published, it's no longer indexed :o I wasn't the only one implicated - we did a collaboration...

I spent a while drawing clothes on things...
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 2, 2013. 10:13 AM
How about a hint... like a title, perhaps? ;-)
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 3, 2013. 10:29 AM
Ha, no hint needed, if you miss it, you probably really need to read it :P
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 3, 2013. 10:51 AM
No hint? Is that fair, considering I messaged you the link to the Instructable you "couldn't find"?
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 3, 2013. 12:05 PM
Fiiiiiinnnnnneee... Inbox...
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 3, 2013. 12:51 PM
lol... I can't say you didn't warn me, eh? ;-D
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 3, 2013. 7:19 PM
Was kinda obvious in retrospect right? :P
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 3, 2013. 7:35 PM
lol... boy, howdy! ;-)
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 3, 2013. 8:13 PM
Hey now I'm not the purveyor of food porn here my dear...
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 3, 2013. 8:44 PM
lol... maybe you missed your calling, KJ! ;-D
killerjackalope in reply to bajablueMar 5, 2013. 2:06 PM
It's never too late...
bajablue (author) in reply to killerjackalopeMar 1, 2013. 4:46 PM
Check your messages, KJ. ;-)
Kimberly^ says: Mar 2, 2013. 12:29 PM
So, my thought is this: It's a slippery slope.....
( No pun intended in reference to the chocolatey "slopes" in the aforementioned instructable.)
I also don't consider comparisons to other sites that kids view relevant to this site. It's that kind of thinking that allows graphic and crude programming on primetime television that, just a few short years ago, would never have been considered appropriate for family viewing. And, unless I'm way out of touch anymore, I am fairly certain kids are still considered an integral part of the word "family".

I'm not sure what the guidelines are for Instructables in relation to allowing risqué content. I suppose I'm more surprised that some of the comments are still there. I know for a fact, if my children were still young, there is no way I would be okay letting them view the model or read the sexual implicit comments.

I think the body paint was a great idea. I just object to the presentation. I must say, if this instructable is a winner, I will be sorely disappointed in the decision to encourage more of the same.
Kiteman in reply to Kimberly^Mar 3, 2013. 2:37 AM
The site is largely reactively-moderated. HQ cannot hope to read all comments, so they rely on the community to "police" itself.

If objectionable comments remain, it means that nobody found them objectionable enough to use the "flag" button.
Kimberly^ in reply to KitemanMar 3, 2013. 9:01 AM
Thanks Kiteman, point taken.
bajablue (author) in reply to Kimberly^Mar 2, 2013. 1:27 PM
Well said, Kimberly. I couldn't agree more.
Bonz says: Mar 2, 2013. 9:27 PM
What happened to the "be nice" policy?

This was't some perv posting smut. It was a well thought out 'able with good content and writing.
It was signed, and the model was credited  by name. The breasts, particularly the nipple and aureoles, were not visible, and she was alone in the frame. Where is the overt sexuality

In my book, there was nothing even remotely wrong with the 'able; but some of the comments violate the be nice policy.

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bajablue (author) in reply to BonzMar 3, 2013. 8:08 AM
Your opinion is noted. lol... I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. I'm confident you feel the same way about my opinion. ;-)
vanweb says: Mar 3, 2013. 7:34 AM
It is a tricky line to try to moderate values.. you find that instructable overly sexual, that is your opinion and that is valid for you. Others had issues with the "skinning a rabbit to make a hat" instructable, others may not like the multitude of Knex guns on the site or the "pagan" Holloween costumes or the costumes that promote violent video games or the instructables that may not be perfectly safe, etc, etc. You see where I am going I hope.

Not everyone on this site will ever agree with everything but I think they do a great job. It is a private site you have the choice to view it or not, you have the choice to subscribe to the newsletters or not. Make your opinion known as I am sure it does influence the moderators but based on the fact that that was an award winning instructable that many people voted for I do not think it should be censored.
bajablue (author) in reply to vanwebMar 3, 2013. 8:03 AM
Thanks for sharing your perspective, vanweb. You've made some valid points. It's ultimately up to the parents to decide what's appropriate for their children.

This thread is merely an open forum for discussion and concerns.
Bonz says: Mar 2, 2013. 9:00 PM
I feel a bit like the Loan Arranger here, but it looks kid friendly to me.

I don't think Ms Novak (the model, credited) was " groping her chocolate covered breasts " [emphasis added]

I've groped, and been groped, and that ain't it. Either that, or my 50 years or so of groping have been in error. I seem to be in the minority, but I'd like to apologize to the author, and particularly Ms. Novak, for some of the prurient minds here.
bajablue (author) in reply to BonzMar 3, 2013. 7:46 AM
I appreciate that you've proffered your viewpoint, Bonz... but please don't feel obligated to apologize for any opinion except your own. It's arrogant... and it's annoying.

Thank you for giving me a chuckle, though. My concerns are based upon content I consider inappropriate for children. You're the first person in this thread to infer that the photos are "smut". Fascinating.
Duplo for Daddies says: Mar 2, 2013. 9:24 PM
I agree with you Bajablue. I did see the instructable, and thought: Can we please keep this site free from this. I do agree that it's probably staying inside the regulations this site has (since it's not showing the skin), but I have no need for my kids to see this when they are old enough to be ibling them selves.
I guess the main challenge with letting this kind of instrucables be posted, is that there is no form for parental filtering internally on the site, and I have no clue if it would be blocked by a filter on my own pc, since this site is far from related to this kind of material.
What it comes down to is, what kind of attitude will the admin show from here on, and how easy it is to let go of the standards first set when you start "loosening" up.

Thanks for your concerns Baja, a lot of people are not brave enough to speak up about these kinds of thing.
bajablue (author) in reply to Duplo for DaddiesMar 2, 2013. 2:44 PM
I hear you, D for D.  Parents have the right and responsibility to monitor their kid's internet activity.  Your children are lucky to have you.  Thank you for commenting.
caitlinsdad says: Mar 1, 2013. 8:21 PM
The lady doth protest too much.



bajablue (author) in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 1:18 PM
ROTFL!!! Only you, caitlinsdad... only you could make this topic freaking HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!! ;-D
Kimberly^ in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 12:45 PM
OMG...HILARIOUS!!!
blkhawk in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 12:17 PM
Genius!
bajablue (author) in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 10:10 AM
lol... can't wait to see your latest video, but I'm getting the "Video currently unavailable" message. Maybe I should unlock the smut blocks on my computer? ;-D
killerjackalope in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 8:56 AM
Y'now at some point eric's hair looked a little hitlery...
liquidhandwash in reply to caitlinsdadMar 2, 2013. 5:06 AM
that is soo funny, I laughed so much I think some pee came out
Kiteman says: Mar 1, 2013. 12:45 PM
The site isn't "kid friendly", it's "family friendly", a subtle distinction.

She did have all relevant parts covered up, and was actually showing less than the posters in the windows of department stores with lingerie sections.
bajablue (author) in reply to KitemanMar 1, 2013. 12:50 PM
Semantics, Kiteman. I'm beginning to wonder if it's either one. Making excuses doesn't change the truth of the matter.
Kiteman in reply to bajablueMar 1, 2013. 12:57 PM
I'm not makibg excuses, simply stating how it is.

I have two boys, and I'm quite happy for them to use the site unsupervised.

I have also been recommending the site to pupils and parents for years, and never had a word of complaint.
bajablue (author) in reply to KitemanMar 1, 2013. 1:02 PM
Of course you are... but thank you for your opinion.
Kiteman in reply to bajablueMar 1, 2013. 1:06 PM
Think of it in numbers, if you like - there are probably only 4-6 "mature" projects on the site, out of around 100,000.

What do you reckon the ratio is on YouTube, Facebook etc?
bajablue (author) in reply to KitemanMar 1, 2013. 1:26 PM
Instructables is not YouTube.

But now that you mention it: When Instructables put this "project" in the Sunday Newsletter, it's pretty clear the "numbers" became a priority consideration. Sex sells. No doubt about that.
killerjackalope in reply to KitemanMar 1, 2013. 12:34 PM
Chocolate covers a multitude of sins...

Applying baking tips to the rest of the world clearly works.
iceng in reply to killerjackalopeMar 1, 2013. 9:27 PM
Chocolate is a sin....and I am a sinner.
Most notably 27min ago ;-)

bajablue (author) in reply to icengMar 2, 2013. 10:27 AM
;-D
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