OxyHydrogen Internal Combustion Engine Boosting Anyone?

So folks I think I'm gonna give the water-into-OxyHydrogen-into-fuel booster gag a try. There's a couple of shady ibles on the subject, so I wanted a little more professional input. I'd like to go about this all scientific like so my questions kinda boil down to:

  • Measure / calculate the amount of air used by my car in one second (in volume)
  • What's the best catalyst to use
  • Measure the amount of hydrogen and oxygen produced in one second (in volume)
  • Accurately measure fuel efficiency

I met a chap who did it to his car, I'll try to wrangle some out of him. Bit of an interesting blighter, 50-60ish black chap with dreadlocks from Gloucester.

I'll be giving it a try in a less then optimal test vehicle however. Carburated '94 Buick Century, V6. I'm sure the idea would "theoretically" work better in a smaller engine. If this system works at all (upwards of 10% increase in efficiency), I'll make an improved version and iblify it. The car will be used on primarily the same route, a good mix of highway and 40 ish speeds, and I'll leave the air conditioner off full time so's not to get false readings.

Any input plz? I'll post some pics of my brave victim car later.

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Well, well, well. Either communications fell dead after I replied four years ago and all took my advice and succeeded, or were eliminated, or got scaranoid or simply 'boosted their own brains'-NOT!
Doesn't anybody read or was this exercise a flash in the pan? This is the BEST boost for diesel engines and you missed bigtime! Oh well, just shows to go ya- can lead HP to
KentsOkay (author)  wassermacher4 years ago
Bought a Corvette, the kind of boost I'm looking at running involves turbines ;)
Just found your request while I was Googling oxyhydrogen combustion, so I signed on to reply. I'm "boosting" natural gas.<br /> To find the volume of air used in one second use one of these:<br /> theoretical cfm = rpm x displacement / 3456 (cfm =Cubic Feet per Minute)<br /> actual cfm is about 85% of theoretical<br /> cfm divided by 60 = amount of air used in a second<br /> The best electrolysis catalyst to use is nickel or platinum but there are many other factors involved in the electrode generation of oxygen and hydrogen as well as its releasing the bubbles. Oft, interrupting the current helps, like 12 V @ 12 times per second. This would be about 40 milliseconds on and 40 milliseconds off. Crank up the current until gas flows. Acid or alkali medium.<br /> You can measure the amount of hydrogen and oxygen produced by inverting a graduated cylinder filled with bath and time the volume displacement, dividing by the number of seconds, over each electrode. Note that hydrogen should be twice oxygen. If not, efficiency of the hydrogen evolution reaction and/or oxygen reduction reaction will indicate poor cathode and/or anode choice of material.<br /> Easiest way to measure fuel use is by a flowmeter, a calibrated ball pushed up a tapered cylinder detecting fuel flow rate. At steady-state speed conditions observe the rate. Turn car around and do again to correct for level, wind, etc. Do the same after installing booster system. You can then calculate mileages before and after to give percent improvement.<br /> So now, you should know what else to do to get that engine to efficiently parse needed fuel.<br /> As you "boost" you will use less fuel but will be taking in the same amount of air. You must alter the fuel flow rate to compensate for the extra energy made by combusting hydrogen and getting the gasoline to fire better. So you have to be able to change the timing of ignition, by retarding as you will be burning it all faster. Ideally you would like to be able to advance or retard at will while the jalopy's jumping. Along with all of this if you don't have fuel injection microprocessor control based on the exhaust oxygen sensor then it's change the jets time. You'll need smaller jets, changing them until your plugs read right or a thermocouple reading on the exhaust manifold. Boosting will also allow you to run leaner, anyway. You can also get better mileage with a certain amount of water injected but need to have the right mist size flowing at the right rate (it soaks up heat by vaporizing the right amount of mist so the peak pressure and temperature is reduced to contribute extra pressure later where more work can be done; the result is a higher average pressure doing more work). Don't forget to use a hotter coil and perhaps a multiple spark discharge (MSD-6) or capacitative unit for leaner conditions. They do work!<br /> These are some basic changes which will work. You should also catch any mist or fumes which might come off the gas generator since they will consist of caustic or acid from the bath (medium). Pipe the outlet of boost gas below the carb into the manifold. Engine vacuum helps pull the boost gases in. (Sorry, I did not read all of all the replies.) Just prompt me for any details or sources, etc. And thanks!<br />
V-Man7378 years ago
Where's Kiteman??
KentsOkay (author)  V-Man7378 years ago
East English coast?
ok, thanks!
fmstark8 years ago
k it will cost ya 1.99 for the full episode it is named "exploding pants" and the hydrogen part is at the end, i saw it o the discovery channel and what is on you tube is all that you will see is concerning a hydrogen car
fmstark8 years ago
i would check out youtube for a more complete understanding of HHO, energybuildersnetwork, scarecrowlabs, zerofossilfuels to be more exact, rather than waste your time trying to build a system from scratch, this group is all ready way ahead of the curve, they have complete systems as well as "cells" and plenty of info so that you arent having to go thru the learning curve as they have already tried alot of different materials and catalyst's as for mythbusters, the fact that the car did run when they were foolish enough to try an unrestricted flow from a bottle of hydrogen is proof positive that an ice will run but there are problems with straight hydrogen but you will learn about that in your on-going research (i hope) be well and remember be safe hydrogen will hurt you if you are not careful
PKM fmstark8 years ago
Personally I don't consider YouTube to be a great source for a complete understanding of anything- there are plenty of crazy claims around, from ostensibly working overunity machines (including an overbalanced wheel, proven not to work thousands of years ago IIRC) to that "Hollywood" guy claiming he had cold fusion by electrolysing some water/KOH and everything in between. There will probably be plenty of sensible people building electrolysers to boost their car engines, but they tend to get lost in the morass of Tesla conspiracy theorists and nutjobs. Is this Mythbusters episode available to watch online anywhere? I would love to see it myself and see what results they actually got.
fmstark PKM8 years ago
PKM, it doest matter to me where the source of info is from ie..... you tube or any other site for that matter, but whether the device works or not and the device people i mentioned have working devices/systems

i am pretty sure the myth busters episode is available i think it was on you tube that i saw it could be wrong, but it is not a hard search, a few letters typing in google or that nonsense site............ you tube

but ill help a bit try this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydEkV-E0mP8 if you can cut and paste
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