"Parenthood" TV show

ok so last night while flipping around on the TV i happened to pass by the TV show "Parenthood" on American TV (it's a pretty crappy show). unfortunately i happened upon a scene where two parents of a young child where discussing whether or not their child had aspergers. someone at school had apparently suggested they get their child tested for one reason or another, the mother was "receptive" but the father basically "flipped out" and denied that it was even a remote possibility (his tone suggested that someone had told them the equivalent of telling them that their child could possibly be the next antichrist or "gay hitler"). i didn't watch the whole show but i watched a few minutes of their discourse and flipped away. when i came back to it, the two parents were now at the home of a family that has an aspergers child. these parents were basically giving a rundown of what a horror story it is to have an aspergers child (with the TV sugar coating to make it seem like they were "coping" with it). the mother had pulled out some organizer that had all of these color coded cards with things like schedules, therapist numbers, behaviorists, and schedules for when the couple could have sex since dealing with their child was such a burdon that they couldn't possibly be intimate in any other way. all the while their child was bouncing off the walls moving from one random thing to the next, eventually plugging in his electric guitar and jamming out at a volume that drowned out the conversation in the other room. they painted a picture of complete chaos.

so basically, i know that having a child on the spectrum is a difficult job (depending on the level). but is this the "awareness" that's going to help the community? it made it look like having a child with aspergers was quite possibly the worst thing that could happen to you. i know the show is supposed to be a comedy (it's not funny at all) but i found it a bit annoying. i mean, if you think back to when people with down's syndrome started being portrayed on TV (thinking of corkie here) they were portrayed in a pretty good light for the most part. the struggles of having a "challenged" child were shown, but they were shown in a way that would give families going through the same situations  hope. that their child could be like this, that their child could have friends, and that they themselves could have a wonderful, enjoyable life with their "special child". the first time i see a sitcom mention aspergers in any way, and they make it seem like a total living nightmare. what's the deal?

hmm for some reason i couldn't get this posted in the aspies forum area....who the heck knows anymore (this forum software is screwy)

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Goodhart5 years ago

This all got reflamed because someone
#1: found it listed through a google search
#2: signed up JUST to argue on this forum thread
#3: immediately without learning about anyone or aligning themselves with anyone, started to character assassinate
#4:  quickly left the fray

This among other things seems to tell us something about recent events, no?
Not going to lie here, I think you're over-reacting. Just because you don't find something funny doesn't mean that nobody else should. I have a right to find humour in whatever I feel like laughing at, and you can't stop me from doing so. So what's the big deal? Don't like it, don't watch it.
crapflinger (author)  the black jesus5 years ago
i didn't say YOU couldn't find it funny, i said I find it offensive.

you can laugh at whatever the hell you want to laugh at, but finding something funny doesn't make the thing you find funny right.

i think it's rediculously funny when someone falls down, doesn't make it cool for the guy who fell down.
. Ppl have made millions of USD falling down for our amusement. Eg, The Three Stooges, Steve Martin, and just about every comedian in Vaudeville. Someone else falling down is almost universally funny (I bet even Klingons get a chuckle out of pratfalls). You're not a bad person for laughing at another's misery, just human.
crapflinger (author)  NachoMahma5 years ago
you're seriously going to equate someone falling down on purpose to misrepresenting a medical condition? great argument path
> i think it's rediculously funny when someone falls down...
.  I'm just agreeing with you.
.  As for misrepresenting, I finally got the Parenthood site to work, but didn't locate the episode you refer to in the OP. I did watch a few minutes of a few episodes (couldn't stand much more heehee) but all I saw was a drama about some ppl trying to raise a special needs kid - not always very successfully. Judging by the short descriptions from Google when searching for an Asperger Parenthood episode, it looks like most ppl think they handle the facts pretty well for a TV drama.
crapflinger (author)  NachoMahma5 years ago
as i stated in the OP i didn't watch the entire episode. they may very well have turned the experience around and it's now positive. to reitterate, i didn't watch the whole episode and i haven't watched one since.

however my OP was about the part that i did see. the part i did see (based on my experience) COMPLETELY misrepresented the facts of Asperger's and how it presents in children (especially those of the age of the child in the show). 

i am almost 100% positive that the introduction of the character was done for good reasons (as well as to create conflict/intrigue in the plot line), however i think that their presentation was irresponsible. if they had done more research they could have gotten the same point across more accurately.

i'm all about suspension of disbilief when watching a fantasy, but if you're presenting things that are real (such as this show) then you should do your research first 
. So you base your indignation on scenes taken out of context and incomplete data? Cool.
crapflinger (author)  NachoMahma5 years ago
ABSOLUTELY! i acknowledged that in the OP, i've acknowledged it again, and i'll continue to do so if it comes back up.

however, i don't think i took the scene(s) that i was aggitated by out of context, as i did see the lead up and the exit from the scene that caused the most concern. the trouble with that scene (the child acting "insane") is the innacuracy of the child's activities, not the fact that the scene exists. IF they had done the scene correctly, accurately, responsibly, i probably wouldn't have been concerned at all.

the fact of the matter is that more and more children are being diagnosed as being "on the spectrum" every day (more occurance? or just better testing? who knows), and the public's knowledge about "the spectrum" ONLY comes from popular media. MOST people only know of rainman when you say autism, the other portion of the population think of Jenny Mcarthy's rediculous campaign to stop children from being immunized because she's convinced that an immunization gave her kid autism (which he doesn't actually have by the way).

i can't feel good sitting around when a growing subset of humanity is being marginalized because of ignorance. the makers of this show had a GREAT opportunity to educate and i feel that they dropped the ball in the introduction of the character (and by all rights they may be taking that opportunity now, but their introduction to the topic was off base).
. Why would anyone expect accuracy out of the entertainment industry? Their raison d'être is not to educate, but to make money by making us laugh/cry/&c.
> i can't feel good sitting around when a growing subset of humanity is being marginalized because of ignorance.
. It doesn't seem to affect your sitting around when I've been attacked about my age and the fact that I come from the Rural South. Is that somehow funny, but making fun of your pet group is taboo?

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