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Potentially Lethal 'ibles

There are a lot of people recently  enquiring about "tazer" like projects, some with lethally inappropriate ideas which may well  lead to the death of either the builder or their target. Is the "inappropriate" flag an appropriate response  ? I don't really think we should be encouraging the creation of lethal weapon 'ibles, but hey, that's just my English sensibilities. What do fellow members from the country with the right to bear arms think ? 

Steve


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tim_n7 years ago
I'm English too.  I have none of this English sensibilities that you speak of.

I have an instructable about using mushrooms to make a plaster.  You can only use a particular type of mushroom in the UK growing on particular trees with relative surety that you won't die.  I've been told in other parts of the world it could be fatal.

I've added appropriate warnings.  It's interesting and has nothing to do with weapons but potentially lethal.  Where do you draw the line?

Perhaps some kind of age restriction filtering would work, but I doubt it.  It would change the ethos of the site.

One of the comments on lifehacker that featured the instructable echo'd "this is dangerous take it down"

Underneath someone put "be very careful when going on the internets!!!!1 i'm not going to give reason! just be careful!

and avoid the guy in the red shirt over there"

which made me laugh.

Also from Make "Void your warranty, violate a user agreement, fry a circuit, blow a fuse, poke an eye out. Make: The risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things... Welcome to Make: Online! "

Make has the right idea.
steveastrouk (author)  tim_n7 years ago
....I'll go along with that and add....
....but don't blame me if it goes wrong.

Steve
I'm hoping one of my lawyer friends helps me out when things envitably go wrong :(
steveastrouk (author)  tim_n7 years ago
THAT'S CHEATING ;-)
Nice guys finish last!
I don't get it.  Are you, Steveastrouk, asking me, and the other Pros, for permission to press the "inappropriate" button?

That is to say the problem of determining what is appropriate or inappropriate post or question is necessarily subjective, so that's why the Instructables architects put that button in front of you.  So that you get a say in how things are run around here.

Well, actually that's not really true.  What happens when you push the "inappropriate" button is that a message gets forwarded to the secret star chamber that actually runs this place.  Then they'll decide what to do about it, not you.

I think that's how things work around here.  Honestly I'm not sure. 

BTW, my opinion, on flagging inappropriateness, is that I have not yet seen a question or post so dangerous that I thought it should be flagged

Spammers are another story.  I've flagged a couple of them, with extreme prejudice.


steveastrouk (author)  Jack A Lopez7 years ago

BTW, my opinion, on flagging inappropriateness, is that I have not yet seen a question or post so dangerous that I thought it should be flagged

Oh yea ??? ;-)

"I want to make a hand cannon, using piezo ignited blackpowder in a copper or aluminium pipe"

I'll see you, and raise you 20.

Steve
See that raise and bump it another 20.
Alright.  I'll admit, that one has potential,  in the potentially lethal  sense, which is what this topic is all about.

After some soul-searching, and also some search-engine searching, I came across this:
https://www.instructables.com/tos.html

It's been years since I looked at it, but I think it's the the Instructables Terms of Service.  Section 8a says something about agreeing NOT to upload content that is  "in Instructables’ opinion to be unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar..." etc. 

I think, technically what this means, is that it's up to the secret Instructables star-chamber to decide what is "harmful" and what isn't.

At the same time, the spirit of the thing says that Instructables doesn't want harmful material posted to its pages, and by signing up to use Instructables, we all kinda agreed to this principle, among others.

Thus using the "inappropriate" flag is appropriate for a post that appears to be "harmful", or in Steveastrouk's words, "lethally inappropriate ideas which may well  lead to the death of either the builder or their target".

I mean I think that's how to look at in the context of the rules.  Unfortunately, this place does have rules, sorta.



This sub-topic is the reason that the flagging system needs an option to add reasons - Inappropriate because... ...it doesn't warn people that the product explodes easily ...it is lifted from [this other website] etc.
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