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Pro Members! (Your opinion is needed)

Soooo, its been a few days since Pro Accounts have been implemented, and I've been wondering, whats your first impression of it? Are the features worth it? (I'll post again once the week is up, and ask again)

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Kiteman says: Jun 6, 2009. 10:34 AM
So far, I have only noticed two problems;

  • Technical problems have been making the site run slowly.
  • There are a huge number of posts from people whining about the changes.
I wish the moaners would sit down and realise that it's the international financial situation that has has forced this move, not greed on the part of Eric and the team.

With failing advertising revenues, the choice really is; pro members or no members.
UltraMagnus in reply to KitemanJun 18, 2009. 8:30 AM
The fact is, they did not even try less restrictive measures first, they just hit everyone with a really big war hammer.
killerjackalope in reply to KitemanJun 7, 2009. 7:20 PM
I can't go pro, pay my phone bill or buy stuff from Ebay, Damn numbers on the back of the card have a score through the last three, making them illegible... At least I have money...
Steamdnt in reply to killerjackalopeJun 10, 2009. 6:16 PM
You can have the rest of my prepaid visa
killerjackalope in reply to SteamdntJun 10, 2009. 7:01 PM
I'll pretend to understand that, wait that's an idea, I could buy a prepaid visa card
Steamdnt in reply to killerjackalopeJun 10, 2009. 7:55 PM
congratulations on going pro
killerjackalope in reply to SteamdntJun 10, 2009. 7:56 PM
I totally forgot I already had a paypal account... Thanks...
Sunbanks in reply to killerjackalopeJun 10, 2009. 7:35 PM
I don't think I've seen prepaid visa cards around here very much -_-
caitlinsdad in reply to SunbanksJun 10, 2009. 7:49 PM
They sell them in the big box stores, big pharmacies, convenience stores, just like the pre-paid gift cards to most big chain stores. The thing is, there is a "service charge or fee" to get the card activated and some are like the gift cards which start deducting hidden fees after a certain period of inactivity.
Sunbanks in reply to caitlinsdadJun 10, 2009. 8:55 PM
Our walmart is rather understocked... Whenever I've looked fotlr prepaid visa cards they haven't had them. Maybe I'll try rite aid. I had one a few years ago and I used it soon enough that they didn't start deducting anything from it. I think I spent most of it on jewelry making supplies...
Goodhart in reply to killerjackalopeJun 8, 2009. 5:50 PM
Hmm, how about a trade then.....since I don't have money, we can use yours, and I'll use my card LOL No? I thought it was fair ;-)
Lithium Rain in reply to KitemanJun 7, 2009. 10:53 AM
(I know I'm not pro so my opinion isn't rly wanted on the thread, but I'm going to give it anyway :P.)

If I thought for one second that this was a greedy, money-hungry move, I would be the first one leading the group in violent protesting. I'd leave the site in disgust, and try to convince anyone else I could to do the same. But what Eric says about the financial climate is absolutely true, and this decision hasn't been entered into lightly, and anyway it's not going to change no matter how much they whine so I say we ignore the numpties and get on Making.

>sits down<
Goodhart in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 6:22 PM
... I would be the first one leading the group in violent protesting.

I abhor violence ;-) I tend to protest great mistreatment by companies by using two techniques
#1: I never return and give them business again and
#2: I spread the word about the poor service.
Lithium Rain in reply to GoodhartJun 7, 2009. 7:19 PM
>>I abhor violence ;-) As do I. :) Figure of speech. >>#1: I never return and give them business again and #2: I spread the word about the poor service. Uhm, that's precisely what I said. :D
Goodhart in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 7:32 PM
Yeah, I was just wondering about the violent protest part ;-)
Lithium Rain in reply to GoodhartJun 7, 2009. 8:12 PM
Well, no, I wouldn't resort to actual violence - I meant it metaphorically, as in, very extreme. :-)
skunkbait in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 8:31 PM
I would actually resort to violence. I would burn an effigy of the robot, and kick a kitten. But since I understand the reasoning behind pro accounts, the robot and kittens are safe.... for now!
Gorfram in reply to skunkbaitJun 7, 2009. 10:57 PM
Kittens are Instructables site mascots/icons, and I've missed them all this time?
Where are the kittens?? ....I demand kittens!!!

(...oh, no - please don't tell me the kittens are only accessible by Pro members... I have yet to work out a non-kitten-related personal issue having to do with Pro)
Goodhart in reply to skunkbaitJun 7, 2009. 9:46 PM
Kittens are innocent, adult cats on the other hand..... J/K
caitlinsdad in reply to skunkbaitJun 7, 2009. 8:36 PM
Hell hath no fury like an angry mob of mutiple cat owners.
skunkbait in reply to caitlinsdadJun 7, 2009. 8:43 PM
Heck yeah! (We own multiple cats. One is like a member of the family. The rest are semi-annoying barn cats.)
Goodhart in reply to skunkbaitJun 7, 2009. 9:47 PM
I own 4 guinea pigs, and all of them are like family, which is what makes them annoying LOL
Steamdnt in reply to GoodhartJun 10, 2009. 6:19 PM
It turns out my cat and guinea pig love each other, I left the cage open accidentally, and my cat was curled up beside my guinea pig!
skunkbait in reply to SteamdntJun 10, 2009. 9:28 PM
My rabbit escaped in the house. He beat up the dog, and intimidated the cat.
Goodhart in reply to SteamdntJun 10, 2009. 8:41 PM
Well, I would keep your cat well fed in case that happens again..... ;-) But I have seen that kind of thing now and then.
skunkbait in reply to GoodhartJun 7, 2009. 10:16 PM
Yep. Jack the cat, and Darkie the dog- are like annoying little kids. Jack will look at you, and if you don't pay him attention, he'll push peices of pottery off shelves until you meet his every need. It almost makes me miss a crying, wetting, burping, 1 year old!
Kiteman in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 11:12 AM
:-)
gmjhowe in reply to KitemanJun 7, 2009. 7:13 AM
New pro feature - the 'Whine Blocker'

turn it on to block those whining and complaining about pro accounts
gimmelotsarobots in reply to gmjhoweJun 16, 2009. 9:37 PM
But even if I go Pro, I shall maintain the Upside-down Pro avatar, because it becomes a ridiculous oxymoron to confuse the masses in a funny way.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to gmjhoweJun 16, 2009. 9:36 PM
ROFL, Sorry I whined. I see the Ible-bot shaped light now. :)
DJ Radio in reply to gmjhoweJun 10, 2009. 10:30 PM
lmao. Personally, I am not against pro accounts myself.
Berkin in reply to gmjhoweJun 8, 2009. 9:23 AM
Ha ha ha....
Berkin says: Jun 6, 2009. 10:12 AM
Regular members should have the Allsteps option.
xACIDITYx in reply to BerkinJun 7, 2009. 7:14 PM
Agreed.
jedi pen-gui-n in reply to xACIDITYxJun 17, 2009. 10:16 AM
thirded
bumpus (author) in reply to xACIDITYxJun 7, 2009. 7:15 PM
Take advantage of it now, deal with it later. I can still view ibles in allsteps.
A good name in reply to bumpusJun 17, 2009. 12:21 PM
Deal with it later? If you had a bar of gold, but it could turn to poo at any time, would you just "Deal with it later"? No, I'd just jump ship. Which is what I'm going to do. Wikihow is probably going to find it's community growing over the next 3 months.
bumpus (author) in reply to A good nameJun 17, 2009. 5:55 PM
If I had a bar of gold, which may turn into poo at any time, I would immediately cash it in for paper money. Which, contrary to popular belief, does not turn to poo.
A good name in reply to bumpusJun 17, 2009. 8:51 PM
So you're telling me to sell my account hmm? Yeah see it's just that no one's going to buy it. A bar of gold might have been a bad analogy... more like a rock.
xACIDITYx in reply to bumpusJun 7, 2009. 7:16 PM
Yeah, because of that whole "trial" thing.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to xACIDITYxJun 16, 2009. 9:42 PM
DOWNLOAD PDFS WHILE YOU CAN! I'll miss that.
bumpus (author) in reply to BerkinJun 6, 2009. 10:19 AM
Pro Members opinion only.
Berkin in reply to bumpusJun 8, 2009. 9:25 AM
Okay.
lemonie in reply to bumpusJun 6, 2009. 10:53 AM
Why didn't you pay your subs and post this in the Pro Members Forum? L
bumpus (author) in reply to lemonieJun 6, 2009. 10:58 AM
So non-pro members can read the reasons. :-)
lemonie in reply to bumpusJun 6, 2009. 11:08 AM
OK, makes sense. Are you still undecided then?

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bumpus (author) in reply to lemonieJun 6, 2009. 11:24 AM
Indeed. :-/
lemonie in reply to bumpusJun 6, 2009. 1:49 PM
OK I got pissed-off with the site telling me "You must be a Pro user to view that page. Upgrade now!" - so there you go. L
lemonie in reply to bumpusJun 6, 2009. 11:50 AM
I've not yet felt the need, but I will at some point. L
Kiteman in reply to lemonieJun 6, 2009. 3:46 PM
I see you have reached the point.
lemonie in reply to KitemanJun 6, 2009. 11:27 PM
Yes, but having been annoyed into doing it early I've still not got any benefit.

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yourcat in reply to bumpusJun 6, 2009. 10:47 AM
!?!?!
gimmelotsarobots says: Jun 16, 2009. 9:31 PM
First impression: Infureated Second impression: Sorry I yelled Third Impression: "Oh, so it's to keep instructables aliiive." Fourth impression: I may go pro if the money is just to save Ible-land
scoochmaroo in reply to gimmelotsarobotsJun 16, 2009. 10:05 PM
Gimme, I gotta say, this was my same reaction. So, all of the above, seconded. But I have to add a second-and-a-half impression: "That's really not that much money for everything I've been getting so far for free. It really is good content, and ok, yeah, I get it. I don't mind paying to help it stay in business." Which sort of bleeds into Third Impression.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to gimmelotsarobotsJun 16, 2009. 9:33 PM
But I maintain my upside-down "Pro" avatar if I do go pro. I think they should change it from "Pro" to "Has Credit Card."
n8man in reply to gimmelotsarobotsJun 16, 2009. 9:44 PM
Or to a little picture of the robot in the corner.
kelseymh in reply to gimmelotsarobotsJun 16, 2009. 9:42 PM
This I agree with (as I've said on multiple other occasions). I (and others) really wish that Eric would change the "PRO" to something more abstract (I suggested a little icon of Robot, for example).
gimmelotsarobots in reply to kelseymhJun 16, 2009. 9:43 PM
YAY! I love robots! course, you already knew that.
kelseymh in reply to gimmelotsarobotsJun 16, 2009. 9:46 PM
The hard part, it seems, to going to be to get Eric to change his mind.
Keith-Kid says: Jun 7, 2009. 5:33 PM
I dont care bout the features, but I owe a lot to this site so I'm signing up. I had to do chores to get the money. CHORES! You better enjoy those $24, instructables!!!
scoochmaroo in reply to Keith-KidJun 16, 2009. 4:39 PM
I had to do chores and got no money.
Keith-Kid in reply to scoochmarooJun 16, 2009. 5:18 PM
if it makes you feel better, I have to start all over again, my comp was acting a lil fuzzy, and had to buy new speakaz.....
scoochmaroo in reply to Keith-KidJun 16, 2009. 8:27 PM
No! Your setbacks could never make me feel better! Good luck going pro soon!
bumpus (author) in reply to Keith-KidJun 7, 2009. 6:14 PM
You're also not a Pro User yet.. :P
Keith-Kid in reply to bumpusJun 8, 2009. 4:04 PM
I had to work to get the money. Blah, I just need to make a check, but theres been some family trouble here...I barely get to be in the house as it is, let alone go to a post office......

When Im a pro, I am SO rubbing it in your face.
Gorfram in reply to Keith-KidJun 8, 2009. 5:32 PM
Greater love hath no Kid than this, that he lay down his willingness to do chores and to cope with quarrelsome check-writers for his 'Ibles. Good for you, Kid. :)
Lithium Rain in reply to GorframJun 16, 2009. 9:47 PM
xD
jedi pen-gui-n in reply to Lithium RainJun 18, 2009. 1:58 PM
Hey it wasn't that bad!
caitlinsdad in reply to bumpusJun 7, 2009. 6:22 PM
In his case, the check is really in the mail.
Goodhart in reply to caitlinsdadJun 8, 2009. 5:45 PM
coming and going LOL
NachoMahma says: Jun 6, 2009. 10:54 AM
. I gotta be honest with ya, the features had absolutely nothing to do with me subscribing - I did it to help keep Ibles online. . Still way too early to tell how it's going to work out. They'll probably need at least 2-3 more days to work out the bugs that inevitably creep into a large project.
skunkbait in reply to NachoMahmaJun 7, 2009. 8:34 PM
Agreed. Ibles has meant a lot to the Skunk Family, and I was happy to show appreciation for the site. Whether the pro features are "worth it", or not, doesn't really matter.
jessyratfink in reply to NachoMahmaJun 7, 2009. 4:44 AM
This is exactly why I subscribed. I don't care at all about the features. I'm still completely befuddled about the patch thing. :P
Kiteman in reply to jessyratfinkJun 7, 2009. 7:18 AM
The patch concept is growing on me - you award them to people as a mark of friendship or respect. There are a range to choose from, or you can create your own. The Knexers should take to them quickly, as they could be used as prizes in unofficial contests. Pro members get a certain number to award, and it may be possible in future for anybody (pro or not) to buy or earn more patches to do with as you wish.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to KitemanJun 16, 2009. 9:39 PM
I feel so bad now. I shoulda looked to see what this was all about. I now wish to go pro to save the Ible-bot's home.
gmjhowe in reply to NachoMahmaJun 6, 2009. 3:46 PM
Seconded, I deemed that I'bles deserved my money, and it got it. Simple as. I will no doubt make good use of the viewing features, but otherwise, i might give out a few patches. The secret ible thing looks good. And pro forums could either be really good, or really bad.
killerjackalope in reply to gmjhoweJun 7, 2009. 7:23 PM
Any ideas if the patches can be awarded to non pro users? I plan to be pro as soon as I get a reissued card (stupid cheap construction, plus the chip's falling out!) Also what happens to the original patch system in that regards, I do wonder...
Lithium Rain in reply to killerjackalopeJun 7, 2009. 8:59 PM
Yep, I've 2 patches and not pro, so it definitely works, also you keep your old patches but they're called achievement badges now...
caitlinsdad in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 9:07 PM
Wow, just like cub scouts and brownies... and you got the Nobel Piece Patch... I haz none. :(
Lithium Rain in reply to caitlinsdadJun 7, 2009. 9:15 PM
:( You're waaaaaaaaay mucho mas importante than yo...had I any patches to give I would give one to you. :D
caitlinsdad in reply to Lithium RainJun 7, 2009. 9:19 PM
Thanks, the were enough.
Lithium Rain in reply to caitlinsdadJun 7, 2009. 9:25 PM
>Rips patch off uniform< Here...
Goodhart in reply to Lithium RainJun 8, 2009. 5:49 PM
:-)
gimmelotsarobots in reply to GoodhartJun 16, 2009. 9:41 PM
I don't know if anybody would accept my remote-control-humam badge. (robot contest), but then I would have none. : ( (counterfeits badges to spread to world)
Goodhart in reply to gmjhoweJun 7, 2009. 6:24 PM
I agree, albeit, it will have to wait until I actually get a bit of money in order to transfer it in. ;-)
Weissensteinburg says: Jun 6, 2009. 3:47 PM
It would be hard for it to not be worth it.
=SMART= says: Jun 6, 2009. 3:09 PM
I have to put some money on my debit card before I go pro. The features look good, I think regular members will get pissed about not having allsteps. But I'm really subscribing to help ibles out. I <3 instructables :P
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