Reduced views

I am feeling a little foolish while writing this, but I have noticed that the views per instructables has reduced remarkably. Earlier the instructables featured on the homepage had around 5000-7000 views in a single day and now that number has reduced to 500-1000.
for example-
https://www.instructables.com/id/Sustainable-Geometry/
https://www.instructables.com/id/Live-Instructables-Followers-Counter/
https://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-USB-stick/

and i would like to add that these instructables are Fabulous. Not only this, the views on a normal featured instructables has also reduced.
Is it because of that, that too many Instructables are being featured? I don't know, but I think something needs to be done to address this issue..
If you agree or disagree please leave your valuable suggestion.

 




Credits: Wooden USB-stick by X-plain,  Live Instructables Followers Counter by Nikus,  Sustainable Geometry by ENGL212.

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lebowski7 months ago

You shouldn't feel foolish! Here's what is happening.

About two weeks ago we made the default for viewing Instructables to be viewing all the steps for all visitors, instead of just the Intro + Step 1. This has greatly reduced the number of page views on our site. In general is seems to have reduced total views by about 4-5x.

The views for an Instructable were being counted for any page/step viewed within an Instructable, not just the view on the first page of the Instructable. We set it up this way to match the page view count we would get from Google Analytics, as that counts a page view every page/step that was visited. We were not trying to inflate our numbers, but make them more accurate.

Here's one example of a recent very popular Instructable with lots of step views. 5 Ways to Remove a Stripped Screw shows that it has 462k views, but in Google Analytics we see that the main page has had 126k views.

With the recent change, this lowers the overall view count significantly for Instructables. The views count is now closer to a unique visitor count, which hasn't changed.

My guess is that most authors think of the views total as how many people they are reaching with their Instructable, versus how many pages/steps of the Instructable are being viewed.

We could reinstate the view count based on how many steps are viewed by visitors, but it feels like that would be misleading.

Happy to answer any other questions, and thanks for reaching out on this topic!

mtairymd lebowski7 months ago

I'm sure this would irk some people but it seems logical to go back and multiple the legacy postings by the estimated factor (0.2 or 0.25). This would obviously reduce the total view count but give an apple-to-apple comparison moving forward.

So when a non-premium member viewed the full version of an I'ble, it would count as two views (and I guess also twice the amount of advertisements)?

So if I had a 30 step I'ble, and someone scrolled through all of the steps, it wouldn't count as one view?

Perhaps that explains why I've noticed that the total views counter on my profile page has been increasing slower (other than not publishing for 3 weeks) lately...

This is my most viewed I'ble, at over 130K views. So from what I understand, I've had probably less than 100 thousand people see this Instructable? That means that the Favorites/views ratio and the ratio for the amount of people that watch my embedded videos is actually a lot higher!

I normally wait a few days after the newsletter has been sent, since I like seeing how many views (the I'bles that I'm interested) get, and have been noticing the view count is surprisingly lower than usual - so this is the reason? So I should also expect to get fewer views on my I'bles, and it should be normal. Interesting.

So when a non-premium member viewed the full version of an I'ble, it would count as two views (and I guess also twice the amount of advertisements)?

The first view would still only count as one view, not two.

So if I had a 30 step I'ble, and someone scrolled through all of the steps, it wouldn't count as one view?

Scrolling, as in the all steps view, has always only triggered one view count. It's only when the user could hit "Next Step" and see each step on it's own page which would count each page as a view.

Perhaps that explains why I've noticed that the total views counter on my profile page has been increasing slower (other than not publishing for 3 weeks) lately... This is my most viewed I'ble, at over 130K views. So from what I understand, I've had probably less than 100 thousand people see this Instructable?

Yes, that's exactly what is happening.

That means that the Favorites/views ratio and the ratio for the amount of people that watch my embedded videos is actually a lot higher! I normally wait a few days after the newsletter has been sent, since I like seeing how many views (the I'bles that I'm interested) get, and have been noticing the view count is surprisingly lower than usual - so this is the reason?

Yes!

So I should also expect to get fewer views on my I'bles, and it should be normal. Interesting

Correct. You can think of the view counter as about how many people are viewing your Instructables.

Aha. So if a non-premium member would see an I'ble and press "next step" for all 30 steps, it would count as if 30 people saw my I'ble?

So I can now think of the view counter as how many people are viewing my Instructables! :)

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Yep, that's correct! We do think it's a better experience for everyone, as we did often get feedback that it was hard to navigate the steps.

makendo lebowski7 months ago

While I think this is absolutely the right thing to do for your readers, a factor of 4-5x is seriously discouraging news for your authors. Long term it should be good though if it leads to a better experience on the site. Brave decision to sacrifice that many ad impressions in the short term though!

pj200 (author)  lebowski7 months ago

ohh!, that's nice. Now we can have a more realistic and accurate response to are instructables. Thank you for your time.

Moem7 months ago

The new usage of Views makes sense to me. Now I'm wondering whether the levels at which one gets a medal for a certain number of Views will also be adapted.

I had the same thought, I'm not sure I'll live long enough to see 1M+ views now.

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