The Future Of Knex Guns?

What kind of guns do you foresee in 1, 3, and/or 5 years? Where do you think that the hobby of knex gun building is heading?

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Oblivitus (author) 6 years ago
A year later, I would say that the future of knex guns is in storable, removable energy sources, increased efficiency, semi and full automatics and shotguns. I also stand by my comments from 2010.
Oblivitus (author) 7 years ago
I think that knex guns will eventually cease to improve. But will also grow in popularity. I find it likely that they will become as well known as airsoft and paintball.
TheDunkis6 years ago
Eh, sorry, partner, but I think you were wrong about the popularity remark. K'nex is far less popular recently than it once was. Just look at the forums. For the longest time, the front page was filled at least half way with posts from one day while now only the top 2-5 topics will have posts from the current day.

It's silly, we still have yet to see what I talked about over a year ago. Well, we sort of did the repeating shotgun, I had an idea, went with it, and it had a lot of potential to improve if someone worked with it, but people let it sit there. So once I can be bothered to, I'll make the next repeating shotgun I wanted to earlier this fall.

I STILL have my fully auto sling gun idea sitting in my head, and I've went around like a Jehova's Witness preaching it to people, but no one can help.

I don't have any new ideas, we really just need to focus on making guns have more firepower, either through shot ammo or rapid firing. Ultimately, the best weapon I could imagine, though very complex, would be my fully automatic sling firing shot that could be recharged by pump action.
Oblivitus (author)  TheDunkis6 years ago
Yeah, you may be right about the popularity considering the trend, but there's still the possibility that it could get big because new people are always starting.
Well popularity might go on and off over the next few years, I don't think it'll ever be as good as it once was. The thing is that it was once relatively easy for someone to get into K'nexing and make something close to as good as what we made. For example, KK pistols were easy as crap and dominated for a long time. Then our standards kept rising and rising until it was hard for newbs to keep up. Instead they learn to just build what we make without much desire for making their own things. Or if they do, they learn that simplicity (from the NAR and TR that everyone pushes on them) is best and not innovation. I don't know, I hope it picks up again.

And yeah, if you could come up with some designs for the concept, that'd be great.
Oblivitus (author)  TheDunkis6 years ago
Yeah, you're analysis of the community is totally right. I hadn't thought about the stuff you brought up. That makes me want to do something to promote innovation. Although I suppose I already am with my Knex Concepts. But that's bot getting people to think any differently. I wonder if there's anything we could do to cultivate interest in innovation?

Yeah, I've got my brain so used to generating ideas that I got one for part of the mech within 5 minutes of you proposing the idea to me. I don't normally think anything of it but at the moment I've just realized that that must be fast. Doing all those concept drawings really helps. I'll post it when I get it and some other ideas down on paper.
Yeah, I did something some while ago to try stimulating the community. I gave off a bunch of ideas and tried to get others to participate. It made a few ripples but no waves. And then we just kind of died down again. It's tough, we need to try attracting a new audience. The only way I could see doing that is if we spread the hobby to other websites. Show off videos of what our weapons can do and see who would be interested in learning.

Secondly, perhaps this seems a bit trivial but perhaps a simple and unbiased guide to K'nex weapon designing, not just weapons in general but actually showing all the tricks on how you can connect pieces such as the black hand on white rod trick and sticking green rods in connector gaps to hold layers together etc., general constructions like the yellow block body, different barrel constructions, etc. And then also add to the guide concept developing to help those who have an idea try to build it.

Thirdly, we should open a general request thread to see if anyone wants to accepting a challenge, perhaps hold a contest on who can build a new concept? Maybe keep it simple, we all attempt the same concept and whoever's works best wins. Then we can focus on perfecting one at a time instead of going all over the place.

Any other ideas? Hopefully by getting some more newbies, the overall activity will help keep who we have here interested and active in the community. The newbies will go over all our builds again, tell us what they like and don't like, etc. Then with the help of the guide, we can hopefully fast track their skill development, breed innovaters instead of just plain builders.
Oblivitus (author)  TheDunkis6 years ago
That first idea sounds good for creating growth.

The second idea won't affect innovation much, but it will make people pick things up faster and produce quality guns. So that seems like something that should be done. We have so much knowledge of knex guns now that we need to be educating new people to keep them up to speed. They can't do it on their own anymore.

That's a great idea. We should do that one. And we should get all of the best members to be collaborators to make it highly respected and a very big deal to people. To really work, we'll have to make it well endorsed and well organized. Shall we start a competition to build my SSSG concept? It's simple enough for anyone to make, but could be made more complex if for example a mech was devised to prevent rounds from falling out the front from gravity.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Knex-Concepts-Update-9/
Yup yup, so have any ideas where we should spread to? I guess we could first attack any website that has a K'nex section in any way. After that, I really don't know. This is longshot, but perhaps if we picked a Youtube celebrity (yeah, good luck), see if they'd actually be interested in K'nex gunning, get them to build something and show it off, the fanbase would multiply by tenfold at least.

Yeah, that's the point. Before you can walk, you must learn to crawl. So if we helped newbies move along faster, we'd get them into the innovating stages sooner.

Indeed, I figured it'd be best to save it until we increase activity in the community though. Like, we should draw back some vets first by creating some activity with newbs. But then, we could constantly be holding these contests which in itself might draw back people while we do the other two steps. So yeah, let's go for it. And that concept is perfect. It's actually incredibly simple at its core but it could be customized and improved as saw fit by all the builders.

Oblivitus (author)  TheDunkis6 years ago
Would you mind operating the innovation competition considering that I'm organizing the database? I think we'll be more productive if we share these jobs among multiple members.
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