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Virus Problem **Updated Topic - 1/12/2010**


This is the official forum post for the virus problems some users are experiencing with our ad networks.  From now on please post all virus reports here.


One or more of the ad networks that serve advertisements on the site has been loading ads that are infected with a virus.  We have been monitoring the situation for almost two weeks now, working with users to identify the infected networks, and then shutting them down from our ad rotation.

Despite our best efforts, the Instructables Staff has not been able to reproduce the problem locally, either because the viruses are appearing in only certain geographic areas, or because we work on Macs.  As a result, we've been relying on users to help us identify the problem and target the infected ad networks.  Please understand that we are not serving these ads intentionally, nor is there a virus on Instructables directly, or our servers, and that we are doing everything possible to shut down the suspected ad networks that are causing this problem. 


Here's what we know so far

The virus appears to be what Microsoft calls a Rogue Antivirus.  It basically tricks users into thinking that their computer is infected with a virus, when their machines are in fact just fine.  A fake virus scan window alerts users that their computer is infected.  Once alerted with this news, users are misleadingly encouraged to install malicious software on their machine.  The alerts seem to pop up after users are redirected away from Instructables, sometimes immediately after loading a page on the site, or in some reports, just from users dragging their mouse over the ad spot.  The problem appears to have only effected a very small percentage of our users, as hundreds of thousands of people visit the site each day and only a few dozen reports have come in over the last two weeks.


What to do

Don't click on any links that instruct you to install software onto your machine.  Update the definitions for your virus program and install the latest updates for your operating system.  If you should experience any of these redirects or virus screens, please read the section below about how you can help us, and post your information to this forum topic.


How you can help

If you see a pop-up warning you that you are infected, or if you are redirected away from Instructables and onto another page that triggers a virus alert, take a screen shot (command + shift + 3 in mac; print screen button in windows) close the page down, and then come to this forum topic and post as much as you can describing what you were doing before the problem happened, what happened when the virus attacked, and what you did to fix the problem.

Please include the following details with your post if possible - the following information is necessary for us to identify which ad network the virus is coming from:
  • any ads serving on the page that you remember
  • description of malware
  • the URL of the page on Instructables you were viewing
  • direct URLs of malware
  • screenshots
  • city, state and or country you are located in
  • what operating system and browser you are using
If you have Firebug installed, you can use it to inspect the problem pages and gather even more information which you can post to this topic.

Previous forum topics about this problem include "Ad-Problem",  "Virus on Instructables" and "instant start virus alter programme".  While these forum topics are still useful in identifying the problem, we need to congregate all new reports here with the bulleted information above so we can gather the necessary facts to pass along to the ad networks to start attacking this problem as aggressively as we can.

I've aggregated offline screen shots, emails, and other useful comments below that contain useful clues to get the ball rolling.

Please accept our deepest apologies for this unacceptable frustration and continue to work with us so we can completely eliminate this virus problem our ad networks.


****1/12/2010 Update****


There's reason to believe that the virus could have infected your browsers cache, and thus be re-infecting your computer from there.  As per the instructions given in the New York Times Article "What to do if you saw an antivirus pop up ad" please follow the steps below before posting any new virus reports on this forum thread so we can be sure that your computer is not repeatedly infecting itself regardless of the state of the site.

1) Close the screen
2) Clear your browsers cache (directions here)
3) Scan computer with a legitimate anti virus software
4) Run any and all updates to your operating system

If you are then still seeing warning messages and pop ups about the malware, then please do let us know so we can continue to track and fight this problem.

We've shut down all of our ad networks that aren't absolutely essential to the running of the site and are working with the last two remaining networks to troubleshoot this problem.  All data shows that the ad networks are responsible for the virus attacks that many sites have been experiencing around the web recently (this is not just a problem on Instructables ), and we've got to take the fight to them to effectively stop the attacks.



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Jan 12, 2010. 12:59 PMewilhelm says:
Thanks everyone for your patience and help!  Tracking this down has been a real nightmare, and we still haven't seen the issue ourselves, which makes fighting particularly difficult. 

If you are able to consistently see it, could you install the Live HTTP Headers add-on for Firefox, set it to capture the headers while you browse Instructables, and send us the results once you see the virus warning?  All other reports are helpful, but this is the only sure way we'll be able to isolate and nail it. 
Aug 4, 2011. 7:22 AMgrundisimo says:
It's been a while since anyone was on here but i just got attacked on this very page.
Aug 4, 2011. 7:23 AMgrundisimo says:
IT says Trojan horse blocked in the red box.
Aug 4, 2011. 7:27 AMgrundisimo says:
Hopefully this is a better picture.
Oct 18, 2010. 9:04 PMkikazz says:
wow seeing this... a computer virus is just like a real one... sometimes it can even cause panic in a mad scramble to find it and then figure out how to kill it.
Mar 28, 2010. 11:08 AMM4industries says:
 Giant guide is infected.

Ads: Restaurant City, Quaker
Mar 28, 2010. 11:11 AMM4industries says:
 The popup said

Windows wants your permission to install antivirus software. 
Allow, Don't Allow
Mar 25, 2010. 1:18 PMKnexFreek says:
 Please help, Im having troubles with my pro account. I am a pro member, i bought the 2 year 40$ plan in january this year. But, i get tons of ads. Advertisements on every single solitary page i click on. They are big ads that pop up and they just are not going away. The ads themselves are broken too, when i click on the "x" in the corner to close the ads, they close and immediately re-open. I have yet to log onto ibles without being bombed by ads. its ridiculous. its not like every now and then. it is every single page i click on. even right here on your profile page.  
 
Please help.
-kevin
Feb 8, 2010. 6:46 PMKnexFreek says:
 if you hazz a mac then this wont happen. problem solved.
Mar 11, 2010. 2:18 PMDJ Radio says:
Or use adblock...
Mar 6, 2010. 12:26 PMM4industries says:
 au contraire...

I have a mac and it does happen on this site.

Here's the forum topic I posted
Mar 6, 2010. 3:01 PMLoneWolf says:
Dude, nice profile image :) I had found that same pic on google images and I had recommended to somebody else to be their profile image and I had no idea somebody already had it.
Mar 8, 2010. 6:36 PMM4industries says:
 Yeah, I've seen at least one person with the same picture on their profile. There is no rule that your image has to be unique. 
Mar 9, 2010. 12:38 PMLoneWolf says:
YEah.

and just wondering was your username suppost to have something to do with Mythbusters. If so, mythbusers is M5industries not M4industries.
Mar 10, 2010. 4:25 PMM4industries says:
 People have asked that. I did that on purpose to point out that I am similar but inferior to M5 Industries.
Mar 10, 2010. 4:33 PMLoneWolf says:
Oh ok. That's cool.
Mar 6, 2010. 1:24 PMKnexFreek says:
 I was kidding... i just read the forum topic and it had the word virus in it. :)
LOL mac = no viruses : : : forum topic with virus in the title = get a mac 
thats my logic :D

But in all seriousness, you are right .
Mar 6, 2010. 2:58 PMM4industries says:
 Sorry if I was too serious, I tend to do that too often.

But that is true, safari can catch viruses, but the actual processor  and firmware are Fort Knox safe.
Mar 6, 2010. 3:51 PMKnexFreek says:
 No you werent !!! Trust me :) 
Mar 10, 2010. 7:29 PMrosebud557 says:
I found another fake virus on: Waste Oil Furnace for Melting Metal, posted
rjeblogue on March 5, 2008.   Thanks
Mar 9, 2010. 9:30 AMBobblob says:
PEN Hack VIDEO Is infected.  A  false virus program it has screwed my  XP machine and got past my AVG protection.  I noticed I didn't recognize the video site just before clicking on it. 

I wrote this original warning a few days ago using my Linux box and put a warning on the "Pen Hack" page .. that has been removed.   Was asked to post it here too.

I booted in safe mode did a restore  then went online to find some recommended registry cleaning and spyware removal programs that worked well.   MalwareBytes Anti-Malware
 
Mar 9, 2010. 9:48 AMkelseymh says:
Could you reference the actual URL of the "PEN Hack VIDEO"?  I tried doing an I'ble search for "Pen Hack" and don't find anything with that exact name.  There are a few of "pen gun" I'bles, but none where I saw any sort of video attached.

When you wrote ".. that has been removed" above, do you mean that the I'ble itself has been removed?  The video has been removed from the I'ble?  Or that your comment was flagged and removed?
Mar 10, 2010. 8:22 AMBobblob says:
The URL:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Save-200-in-2-Minutes-and-have-the-Worlds-Best-W/  This appears on the main page  ( http://www.instructables.com/) among several others in a scrolling group of images of other Instructables. I'm not interested in selecting the video again ....sorry!  I guess my linux box would be safe but going to the 1st URL I posted here will allow you to see the video image.

The Instructable remains there.. As soon as I could get my Linux machine booted I posted a warning in the comment section at that instructable.  I could not and can not find it now after just checking all 3 pages of comments ...So I'm guessung it was removed.   Thanks for following up on this!
Mar 7, 2010. 10:27 AMchotii says:
I just navigated directly to my own Instructable. MSE flagged a trojan: Trojan:JS/Redirector.

I went to this page http://www.instructables.com/you/backtalk/?action=reply&commentId=CPFA9HWG69MUWGV

However, returning to that page did not create the same flag. I'm sorry, I don't know what ad came up the first time, as I was too alarmed to notice.

I am running Windows 7. I am in Seattle, WA
Mar 6, 2010. 12:29 PMM4industries says:
 I see them here and there. No correlation to the topic or add that I have noticed.
Mar 6, 2010. 12:30 PMM4industries says:
 PS. I work on a Mac too and I get them.
Feb 14, 2010. 7:42 AMlemonie says:
I just got this one, immediately after logging-in - sorry didn't catch the ad.

L

Feb 15, 2010. 11:54 AMewilhelm says:
Can you confirm that you are only seeing house ads (ads that link to Instructables)?  Knowing that this is unrelated to an ad network will help me track it down.
Feb 15, 2010. 12:23 PMlemonie says:
I'll confirm that. But before I logged-in I may have had something else.
My default login is via http://www.instructables.com/you?show=DISCUSSIONS so that took me to the "login and we'll take you to you" login page. Click button - that thing popped up.
(I wasn't paying attention past clicking the button I'm afraid)

L
Feb 15, 2010. 7:02 PMewilhelm says:
What browser are you using?  Have a look at
http://www.instructables.com/id/Instructables_Ad_Networks/
to help track it down.
Feb 15, 2010. 11:18 PMlemonie says:
Ah.... there's an idea. I'll try tonight.

L
Feb 15, 2010. 11:47 AMewilhelm says:
Since you're pro, you're not seeing any network ads (and I don't think we're running any direct campaigns right now, but I'll check).  So, you should only be seeing house ads.  So, this is quite strange.  If you can get it consistently, please try Live HTTP Headers mentioned above to help me track it down.
Feb 14, 2010. 11:52 AMHiyadudez says:
I got that! lOOK AT MY NEWEST FORUM.
Jan 17, 2010. 7:13 AMJJYork says:
I come to this site frequently and have not had anymore problems since the 7th
Jan 13, 2010. 4:21 PMTool Using Animal says:
HTTP Headers

Since I can't get this to occur under Firefox I installed IEwatch, which has a free trial.

Anyways here's what I captured from ctrl r'ing the sweather legging instructable,sorry it's 7 meg.

BTW if I'm abusing the servers by ctrl-r'ing to get the problem to happen, let me know.
Jan 10, 2010. 2:26 PMqwertyboy says:
Got the virus scanner again. I was looking at SaskView's Useless Machine 'Ible. I run Win XP and am using IE8, also, I use AVG.

Link: http://online-spyware-killl1.com/scn1/?id=%3Dnm39jTuMzA5LjEyNi4yMSZwaWQ9NDBzMSZ0aW1lPTEyNjIxOYENNAkM

Photo 1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34888294@N02/4263351251/
Photo 2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/34888294@N02/4264103222/in/photostream/
Jan 13, 2010. 2:55 PMqwertyboy says:
So far I havent had any problems. I've been going to some of the more "popular" 'ibles and haven't had any problems (the popup seemed to happen most to me on those).

Thanks and I hope you figure out the culprit!
Jan 12, 2010. 5:42 AMcrapflinger says:
had one today and one yesterday. sorry but i didn't have time to catch the specific alert as trendmicro closes the site immediately. only happening in the forums for me, i've yet to get popped while reading ibles.
Jan 11, 2010. 11:19 PMPhotoMaster says:
I am trying again, as my last comment vanished. For several weeks now, the first instructable I decide to view launches a bogus virus warning and scan, which if I click through will infect my computer. I had it happen on an older computer. On this PC I deactivate my network card, close my internet explorer, re-connect my network card, re-connect to the internet, and finally reconnect to instructables. After this I am fine to use instructables until the next day when I will have the same scenario. I had it happen again this morning (NJ time). My cache was cleared earlier, so I know it is not in my cache. The problem still exists as of around 12:30am, 1/12/10.

Greg
Jan 9, 2010. 11:52 AMnewtoon says:
Since a couple of days something leads me to this adress when I visit instructables.com.

I´m not logged, when this happens.

Here`s the link:  http://antispywareonlinel6.com/scn1/?id=%3D3G09DDuMzcxLjc4LjEzMiZwaWQ9NDBzMSZ0aW1lPTEyNjEwNYYOMAkM
Jan 11, 2010. 12:30 PMDoctor What says:
All of your ad networks?  Does that take a hit in the profit area?
Jan 11, 2010. 4:05 PMDoctor What says:
Sorry to hear that.  I hope you get well soon (instructables being sick and all)!
Jan 11, 2010. 12:28 PMBrick Moon says:
After one occurrence yesterday, so far so good this afternoon. No problem after viewing about 20 various Instructibles pages. Apparently no evil from Google.
Jan 7, 2010. 3:19 PMJJYork says:
Happened to me. Had done a search on "magnets" and clicked on the instructable "how to obtain cheap rare earth magnets". Had not clicked on an outside site but one is contained within the instructable. Just closed out
Jan 7, 2010. 4:15 PMJJYork says:
Yes
Jan 9, 2010. 9:43 PMFrivolous Engineering says:
A viewer of my youtube video left a comment tonight about a virus after clicking a link to my 'ible.  I had a couple earlier but didn't think they were real.

This REALY sucks, cause a hefty percentage of the traffic here lately has been because of my 'ible.

Instructables should have contacted all the members and alerted them to this problem.  Not sweep the issue under the rug, and continue letting rogue ads slip though.

NOT HAPPY AT ALL! 
Jan 10, 2010. 1:26 AMBrick Moon says:
The problem continues. On viewing random Instructables pages (which I usually open in a new tab), an average of perhaps one out of eight times, the rogue antispyware warning immediately appears. I just run the task manager and shut down IE browser. So far, restoring the session afterwards has not resulted in the same occurrence.
Running IE8, XP.
Jan 10, 2010. 10:28 AMchotii says:

Doggone it, the "antivirus" ad popped up when I was reading THIS page, about the virus!!

It redirects me to onlineantivirust5.com, but I don't know what ad was showing at the top of the screen when that happened, because boom it was gone and I was redirected.

I am not a Pro member, but I was logged in. I am running IE8, with Windows 7.

Jan 7, 2010. 8:23 PMkatmckee says:
sorry to bear the bad news. i went into the home page not signed in, clicked on next page of popular ibles, clicked on the crocheted moustache hat ible, and bam... warning I have viruses, fake scanner, attempt to save a .exe
Jan 8, 2010. 12:27 PMewilhelm says:
As a pro member, you shouldn't be seeing any ad networks.  Can you confirm that you were logged in when you saw this?
Jan 8, 2010. 12:29 PMDoctor What says:
Quote, " i went into the home page not signed in".
Jan 7, 2010. 6:33 PMcylonics says:
 I have not seen it again recently. Have been surfing ibles and hitting F5 with impunity.  I have noticed however, the ads no longer change with refresh. Will just surf more and tempt fate. 
Jan 7, 2010. 6:45 PMcylonics says:
Correction: If the page is allowed to load fully, F5 will load a new Ad.  Just refreshed 10x at 3 different ibles, the problem did not reappear.  Also noticed the ads before were the tall vertical type, and are now square, and mostly "Ads by google".   Will post if  it shows again, but feeling warmer and fuzzier... 
Jan 6, 2010. 3:36 PMTool Using Animal says:
Hey Noawh I don't know if it's any use to you but I captured my temporary internet files when this happened.

I set my temp dir to my ram disk, restarted to flush everything, loaded ie, navigated to Christy's eggnog instructable and ctrl-r'd until the fake scanner came up, copied and zipped the dir.


Jan 7, 2010. 2:57 PMTool Using Animal says:
I'll go mess around and let you know
Jan 7, 2010. 4:13 PMTool Using Animal says:
Looks like you got it, an hour of random walking instructables and nothing happened.
Jan 6, 2010. 7:51 PMkatmckee says:
using IE and MS Vista on my laptop at home in Gainesville FL on the Dell laptop.

I logged in, navigated to my profile, clicked on one of the groups I'm in - Outrigger Canoe  - and then 2 seconds later the little dialogue box was there, I x'd out of it, then the big fake windows browser pops up with counters flying about all my trojans etc. I closed IE, then the other dialogue box was there again. I x'd out of that. that was it.

sorry I didn't see what ad was on the page at the time. It happened about 6 min ago! good luck...
Jan 6, 2010. 3:33 PMBerkin says:
My Norton software detected an Infostealer.Gampass trojan located at

"http://www.instructables<DOT>com/files/orig/FQW/G5Y1/F4L2T7N8/FQ
WG5Y1F4L2T7N8.tmp"
Jan 6, 2010. 6:13 PMBerkin says:
Okay, thanks.
Jan 6, 2010. 3:20 PM=SMART= says:
I havent experienced this, I'm on a mac too, running FF 3.7.

Really well handled though, im sure this will get  sorted quickly :)
Jan 6, 2010. 1:36 PMrandofo says:
I suspect the "slow script" bug in Safari is the malware ineffectively trying to load itself and getting caught in an recursive loop. This happens before the page has time to load and has frozen my browser more times than I care to think about. It is very frustrating.

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