how can i make a toy plasma thruster that actually works???
I'd like to know how to make a plasma thruster like the one on that one youtube video. If you know how, or you were the one who put up that video, please put up an instructable on it and send me the link. You can reply to this post on my orangeboard on my profile, thanks...
Youtube video: Plasma thruster:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s_wwEKp6SGk
Youtube video: Plasma thruster:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s_wwEKp6SGk

















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plasma thrusters are highly experimental and DANGEROUS.
you need HIGH density SOLID HEAT RESISTANT METAL. half an inch thick solid burn-proof glass.
you need 2 ICRH antennas (i have no idea where you would get thoes)
a quartz pipe (good luck)
a HIGH amount of hydrogen (is that even legal?) or helium gas.
HUGE magnet coils (superpowered)
a cone with high powered metal sheets around it. (magnetic again)
added to the fact the thing is MASSIVE. you could never make a "toy" plasma engine (thruster) that actually works. its impossible. they are HUGE, they need to be huge.
and the "toy" part. good luck putting that on a TOY.
That's plasma in there...
You might need some of that equipment if you want to study plasma fusion, but most working plasma thrusters are little more than CRTs with no front on the tube.
For instance:
Last summer, for fun, Batishchev’s students successfully assembled a version of the plasma rocket using a recycled glass bottle and aluminum can, instead of the quartz tube and radio-frequency antenna (see video). "This shows that this is a robust, simple design. So in principal, an even simpler design could be developed," he said.
This one runs on a plasma generated from water.
(With a long enough extension lead...)
not a plasma engine, or nitrogen engine.
whatever he might be referencing. is NOT a plasma thruster. google plasma thruster and click image.
http://spacetourismsociety.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/vasimr.png
thats a plasma thruster. they are BIG, and experimental. not used in toys like he suggests.
They're tiny compared to equivalent chemical rockets, and they are not relegated to "experimental", they're in regular use. Vasimr is experimental, but there are a dozen or more other plasma-based drives that have been developed. Russian satellite systems have used plasma drives for over 40 years.
As near as I can tell, you joined this site purely to start an argument. Sorry, try some other mug, maybe one who doesn't know what he's talking about, on some other site where attacks are tolerated.
Try YouTube.
Hope it helps.
First you need some kind of fuel to ionize. Air is convenient and plentiful. Just having air is not enough. You either need to have a blower, or a compressed air source to keep enough air flowing that the plasma stream won't move and eat your rocket.
Now that you have air, you need a high voltage continuous power source. By high voltage, I mean several hundred volts to start, many plasma torches use 400vdc.
Once you have air and power, you need a nozzle to handle the air and voltage and survive the plasma. If your rocket cannot contain the plasma for any time, it will just catch fire, and maybe explode. In many plasma torches they use an electric spark fired from an electrode into the grounded work surface to create the plasma. Air is injected twice through this nozzle, once through the spark to ignite and create plasma, and once AROUND the plasma to keep it from eating the rest of the nozzle. This also serves to keep the nozzle cool and not melt so fast.
You cannot use that method, as you have no grounded surface to touch. That being the case, you need to create a spark perpendicular (Intersecting at a right angle) to the flow of air. This will cause the air to ignite into plasma, and expand like fuel dumped into a jet engine in afterburn. The longer you can contain this plasma, the more thrust it will provide.
Please understand that plasma WILL try to get away from you. It has high magnetic fields and they are pretty random. This will "Push" the stream in different directions, and so this is inherently dangerous. If the plasma makes contact with any surface, it will eat it rapidly.
http://www.rischenterprizes.com/plasmathruster.htm
The water is zapped into charged plasma, flowing between the electrodes.
Under the white material (a sheet of PTFE) are a pair of magnets. The charged plasma is pushed by the magnets in exactly the same way as a charge-carrying wire is pushed inside a motor.
All of which you would have found if you had followed the link to the thruster maker's site.
For a similar process that uses lower voltage but achieves vaguely-useful thrust is the magnetohydrodynamic effect (sometimes known as a "caterpillar drive"), which uses water in the place of plasma.
Like this little toy from EMS: