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The Jamalam8 years ago
how about stealth and speed?
plasmaspy (author)  The Jamalam8 years ago
what about stealth and speed?
Ninja Weapons of course!
plasmaspy (author)  The Jamalam8 years ago
daggers are best but there are specail ninja swords that are usualy made from black steel to hide em better in dark shadows, they are like katanas but they are like almost half the length for easy drawing.
Nonjas use Ninjatos, not Katanas
Also, you did forget to mention that Ninja-to are straight and don't have the characteristcal curve of a Katana. Another fact that is forgotten is that the sheath is longer than the actual blade itself to give the illusion of a longer blade, and, when put into the sheath, can be used as a climbing tool. Regards, Jehosephat
Nope. Real Ninjato is basically a wakizashi blade fitted in a katana koshirae. It does not have a square tsuba and all that crud, it is curved, and no, it's not used as a climbing tool. A real Ninjato is like the one used by Soke Hatsumi of Bujinkan, it is curved and is basically a wakizashi blade mounted in katana fittings. You're right about the saya being longer to give that 'long blade' illusion, but you were wrong about everything else.
Excuse me, but you are incorrect on that fact. While Sote Hatsumi did use a sword as you have mentioned, traditionally it did have a square tsuba, was straight, and the saya was used as a climbing tool. If not, then why are there so many numerous volumes of books that have been thoughroughly researched and all have supported the Ninja-to as I have described? Even Steve K. Hayes, the Grandmaster of American Ninjutsu, whom was taught by Grandmaster Hatsumi of the Tokagure-ryu, one of the oldest surviving Ninjutsu-ryu in the world, and even he supports the claim of my above described Ninja-to. If you really want to make a claim that your version is the correct one, please get a degree in Asian Culture & History like myself, and present factual evidence. I hope this is informative to you, Jehosephat
Hay umm the saya is the holder thing for the katanas thing I can't remember what part it is egsactly so you would know from explaining
Well, in all seriousness the particular shape of the tsuba doesn't matter. And no, Soke Hatsumi's Oniyuri Ninjato is not straight. It is a wakizashi blade mounted on a katana koshirae. Oh, and how have Hatsumi supported your claim in any way? Are you saying you're a close friend of his? Sounds like a big load of bull.... for me. Have you ever even seen Hatsumi's Ninjato? Have a link for the pic: http://www.tanakabuki.com/images/cimage/oniyuri.jpg

Notice the CURVED wakizashi blade mounted on the katana koshirae.
First off, I don't think a Grandmaster would advertise thier swords on Argentinian websites, for anybody can make a claim to what it is. Next, either Steven K. Hayes or Hatsumi sensei's books supports my traditional version, and, if they do use a weapon as you have described, does not make a claim that all Ninja use it and may be just an aesthetic choice by them. Furthermore, you have to consider the Ninja's humble origins of peasant farmers, and in all eventuality, stole samurai swords and other weapons and modified them according to their needs. Later on however, they studied these swords and invented a way to make their own specialized weapons. Ninja-to can both be the Ninja's sword or "utilitarian bush knife" if you will. Finally, I do not want this discussion to get out of hand and cause both of us doing something regrettable. Regards, Jehosephat

I think both have a point!
on the one hand, the ninjato Oniyuri, is a creation of Hatsumi sensei (not that model ninjato exisitio as such)
ninjato were both, straight blade as curved blade, even used from katanas to wakizashi.
in fact, the ninja sword Adapted tohis needs.
and every ninja was different.
can see a picture on my site, www.tanakabuki.com ,a wakizashi that has the blade inside the tsuka ...
with respect to shikomi zue, you can see photos of originals here ..
By the way, I am a practitioner of Bujinkan, Hatsumi student, and built replicas of weapons I saw in the house of Soke Hatsumi ...
Greats from Argentina!
"First off, I don't think a Grandmaster would advertise thier swords on Argentinian websites, for anybody can make a claim to what it is." Fail. I can provide lots of links to pictures of Hatsumi's Ninjato (the exact same one as I showed you), not only that one site. Links I can provide you include reviews from people who bought this sword and testimonials from sword experts. Steven K. Hayes supports you? Well, maybe. But Hatsumi Sensei? I doubt it. Look man, there are five authentic Ninjato types, and I know three. First, the Ninjato I described above, second is the saw-sword, Shikorogatana, and the reverse-mounted Gyaku-ni Wakizashi. Source? Hatsumi's DVDs. PM me if you wish to know more.
"I can provide lots of links to pictures of Hatsumi's Ninjato..." You Fail. That does not sound very intellegent, I sounds like something a 12 year old would say. Jehsephat sounds like he has alot of facts and that he knows what He's talking about.
Why do I fail? It's the friggin truth. I have other arguments backing me up besides that. I don't think my argument should be corrected by a guy that posted something about nunchaku in a ninja thread, because NINJA. DOESN'T. USE. NUNCHAKU. And who are you to say I have less information? If you will just browse the thread, you can clearly see me giving Jehosephat information on Togakure senban and kusari-fundo, something he doesn't know about but I do.
I never said ninja used nun-chucks, I just came in hereto talk about martial arts wepons.
Ok, but you're in no position to say that I failed.
While those statements are correct, you do forget that Hatsumi sensei's sword can be of a personal choice, and there is no claim that it is the basic weapon for all Ninjas. Also, never saw that Gyaku-ni Wakizashi, so thank you for the new information on that. Oh, and what do you exactly mean by PM? (Not familiar with all the new lingo going about nowadays). Thank you, Jehosephat
Dude, c'mon, I thought you knew better. The straight Ninjato is a Hollywood product made sometime in the 70's. Most if not all hardcore Ninjutsu enthusiasts know of this. A PM is a personal message, kinda like an e-mail you can send in Instructables.
Ah ok I'll look into that feature (must have missed it in this website...)
But, IF, and only IF, it is a Hollywood product, then how come there are sword-canes, also known as a katana shinobi-zue, existed in the 17th Century and is possibly a variation of the ninja-to?
Here's an image of actual shinobi using such weapons:

This comes from a book that I own written by Stephen K. Hayes.
It's called The Ninja and Their Secret Fighting Art .
It's really just a short autobiography of his training and a BASIC overview of Ninjutsu.
Check it out, it has some interesting facts.
I do know what shinobizue are, but FYI they are not always swords. They might also be a weighted chain concealed on a cane or other forms of weapons. The sword shape is straight because in all seriousness it won't really look like it's bamboo if it's curved and ninja can make do without a curved blade. And Hayes isn't exactly the most informed instructor there is, despite his status.... Especially not at the past, he's not....
I realize that shinobi-zue is just a broad term for concealed weapons in staffs.
and I'm saying it is straight because it is a derivative from the 'ninja-to' as i describe.
Plus, you are supporting me in saying 'ninjas can make do without a curved blade'.
And, by you saing that there is a straight sword can give evidence to a ninja-to that has a straight blade.
And you cannot discount Hayes entirely, because it is he who is the pioneer in bringing the shinobi world to us,
Technically, he 'colonized' ninjitsu to the U.S. and, in turn, other parts of the world.
Japanese straight sword: Chinese swords that were imported to Japan, otherwise called Chokuto.
Yes, I know that also, & what if the were imported? The ninja could just as easily have stolen those because of easier acess to them than a katana, because, if you remember correctly, ninja clans couldn't afford swordsmiths to make katanas. Plus, the only places to get a katana were from either stealing from a samurai or stealing from a swordsmith. The latter would be trying to steal a gun from a gunshop; it's suicide. But stalk & ambush an anaware samurai on the road,...you'd maybe have a 60% success rate. Plus, if you didn't have weapons to begin with & were trying to get one, why not get some less-guarded, ready-made cheaper swords instead of risking life & limb? Remember, it doesn't matter who makes whatever you want, it's the easiest way of getting to it. It works the same in economics, look that up. Jehosephat
a Wakizashi is the "Knife" that samurai used to commit suicide.
You must not know jack crud about Japanese weapons. The knife that samurai used to commit suicide is called tanto. Wakizashi is the samurai's secondary weapon, somewhat shorter than the katana but not as short as the tanto.
If you really want stealth and speed, you can try using either blowguns or bows. Yes, I know what you're thinking, bows are not related to the Ninja-style. But historically, Ninjas were masters of all weapons, and that did include bows, contrary to popular belief. Both of the above described weapons are silent, deadly, and fast. The only difference between the two is penetration and range. Poisoned, tranquilizing, or barbed tips add a nice touch Hope this helps, Jehosephat
But I thought more towrds the 1800's Ninjas Started using Cross bows?
Yes, but I never did mention crossbows, but they are far more accurate than the standard bow. And the shinobi have always used bows & blowguns, since the 1500s (I think...not entirely sure on that). But in all, unless you want to stick to a certain time period, weapons choice does't matter; the ninja have always had one objective: to complete the mission at all costs. Weapons & gear are just tools to make the job easier. Regards, Jehosephat
Here if this helps then no time period I'm a ninja in a spence my weapon is fast and stealthy cuz it a .50 cal lol
correct me if I'm wrong.
Um actually ninjas did use bows a lot
you do know that you dont have to sign your name at the end of the comment right?
This is true. Ninja were skilled in using Yumi (the traditional Japanese bamboo longbow) and Fukiya (traditional Japanese bamboo blowgun).
jlund4 years ago
I make my own ninja stars out of metal there better than real ones for me I can hit every thing real ones are to to to ummmmm there just stupid I can't throw them rite
Neovenetar6 years ago
did ninjas not eventually start to use matchlock guns?
dude7875 years ago
plz post ASAP
dude7875 years ago
will someone tell me how to make a duct tape kunai plz
Deathatsix6 years ago
not sure how "Ninja" it is but i did do a commission on a Katar for a person. it was pretty cool and Ninja-e. can be found on my deviant art site. http://deathatsix.deviantart.com/art/Aza-Katar-84207661
awesome blade very cool!!!!
pcisek676 years ago
im a ninja
you have broke the most sacred code that comes with being a ninja do not tell anyone you're a ninja that completely ruins your second identity.
You are right, o brother of the sacred ninjas. i have brought shame to not only myself, but to my family. I will now depart from thee.

Farewell Brethren
trainey996 years ago
sherken (throwing star)
dont forget the bo staff
kingler376 years ago
tonfas shouldn't bee that hard to make using some hard wood and varnish
Jehosephat6 years ago
Hey everybody! I have just posted a new forum & I'm hoping all of you could check it out & spread the word. Thank you for your cooperation, Jehosephat
Did anyone ever heard of a rope dart or a meteor hammer? I though it looked cool. I once made a homemade rope dart & practiced at it, it was pretty fun actually. Also, has anyone heard of the Chinese whip? Looks difficult to master, and seems quite dangerous as well, but it does look awesome.

lol they are awesum ive gotta make these. (i already gotta collection of metal and wooden swords ive made from house hold objects)
Do you by chance have an Instructable on how to make swords in your collection? It would be of great help if you can post one. Thank you, Jehosephat
Hey Jehosephat I just have a quick question, are you Einglish because you have excelant volcabulary and sound propper. I was asking because I went to Eingland years ago while my dad was stationed in Italy My family went on alot of trips around Europe and I got to see alot of awsome stuff. While in Eingland I got to go to the largest toy store in the world, I got to see the Big Ben, the outside of Perlemint, and just walk all over Eingland. So yah just ask'in! -Freerunner
Actually yes, I am, thanks to my Irish mum & Scottish dad! (Don't know how that works {laughs}) I lived in London for most of my childhood before moving to the United States. I then went to colledge & live here. That was pretty cool that your family got the opportunity to go abroad & visit my homeland; personally I'm a big fan of the Tower & Big Ben. Oh, I do miss the motherland so...(nostalgic memories kick in) But what part of Italy did you live in? I visited Rome & lived in Naples for a year at my mate's house; love Italian food by the way. (laughs) But yes I'm flattered & glad you noticed. Thank you, Jehosephat
We live on some small island called La Maddelana it was very small and very boring the only thing fun to do was the beach and even that got old. Spending 2 years on a 8 mile long tourist is not as fun as it sounds.
on the begining I meant to put a "d" on live
Eh, no problem. I do the same sometimes.
Oh! I know exactly where that is! Unlike that island, I bunked with my mate in Naples, & let me tell you, it is crowded!!! Good thing there was always a party going on somewhere. Rome has the BEST colledge parties in the world!!! Those Italians know how to throw one hell of a party! Brings back memories...good times...(stares off in the distance & laughs) But yes, I do know what you mean. Get a plane ticket to Rome when you turn 18. Trust me you'll love it. Jehosephat
I think they used that in Wushu. Anyone here hear about a kusari-gama, it's similar.
Correct Joseph1608. The Chinese Iron Whip was used by Shaolin Monks and in forms of Kung-Fu and Wushu. The kusari-gama is a small sickle with either a rope or chain that had a weight at the end. The chained or corded part was used more often to distract an enemy, then follow up with an attack from the sickle, than to be used offensively. The Iron Whip is mainly a offensive weapon, while the kusari-gama is a surprise/snaring weapon. Regards, Jehosephat
Amen Freerunner. If we needed someone to really piss off the entire Ninja community, why not just say "Go to bloody hell?" But, alas, everyone here would throw a smoke bomb at you and slit your throat fom behind. Pure Ninja skills. Jehosephat
If you think that about the people in this forum then why even come in here and waste the space on the screen of everyones computer?
Who want's chinese weaponry? We Kicked their asses, Samurai lost not one casualty, Yet all the chinese warriors were killed T.T Could have been because their ships were destroyed by a typhoon after they retreated though.
Jehosephat6 years ago
By the way everybody, rate this Community forum so we can get more people to join & get more insights...(& hopefully be more popular {laughs}) To all, Jehosephat
squirrelMLM7 years ago
ya know theres a show on discovery channel called "Deadliest Warrior" where they basically collect stats from 2 different warriors that have never fought eachother and used a computer to make them fight. So one episode was Ninjas vs Spartans Spartans pwned XD
You forget that Ninjas kill when you least expect them to. They were the ancient world's black ops. They would run from that Spartan and kill him in his sleep when he has no armor and weapons to his disposal. You can't kill what you cannot see. For the insight, Jehosephat
very true, very true
I would love to see how the Spartan would fair against the Japanese samurai or a French knight. Regards, Jehosephat
Dude, The Samurai pwned the Viking!!!
I know! That made my day! No...my week! (laughs) I wonder what would happen if we put a Samurai versus the French Knight. Hmmmmmmm...... I'm pretty sure Samurai wins hands down. Jehosephat
Jehosephat6 years ago
Oh, by the by, has anybody heard of the kusari-fundo? To anybody reading this, Jehosephat
Kusari-fundo: Basically a length of chain with two metal weights attached at the end. Kusari-fundo weights tend to be square or octagonal shaped, while it's counterpart manrikigusari's weights tend to be more stick-like in appearance. A traditional kusari-fundo is usually 17-32 inches in length (I think).
correct me if if I'm wrong but I thought that a chain with weights at the end is called a "Manriki chain." you can get them for $8.99 at www.allcombat.com PS. sorry if I was a little rude in the posts up top. I was just having a bad day.
Manrikigusari (manriki chain) and kusarifundo are basically the same thing.
True. I was unsure of certain differences in comparison to other weapons and I posted to make sure I was correct. Thank you in earnest, Jehosephat
You're welcome. I'm always here to lend a helping hand.
tanto the sharpest of all samurai arsenals
We're not talking about samurai here lad; this is the ninja haven. Jehosephat
my favorite ninja tool is probably the senbon Japanese throwing spikes
plasmaspy (author)  Masteroffencing7 years ago
yeah same throwing needles are awesum! [ i practise regularly with senbon, bo-shuriken and hira-shuriken. and evn home make ninjato swords.
I kind of like to practice with nun-chucks
Nunchakus are hard to master, just like senbon shuriken. Unfortunately, not even I can throw needles straight. (T.T) I don't want to sound boastful, but I am quite good as far as hira-shuriken are concerned. I mean, anybody could virtually pick up and use this effectively, because the business end is always facing fowards; the only thing necessary is technique. Regards, Jehosephat
Senbon shuriken? Ha! Dude, seriously? There are no such thing as a senbon shuriken! The senbon shuriken is the Naruto version of bo-shuriken! FYI, senbon means "a thousand needles". No such tool existed in real life, the real life name for that particular tool is the bo-shuriken. The senbon is merely the creation of Masashi Kishimoto, the guy behind Naruto. If you're talking about the square shuriken, they are called the SENBAN, and is used by Ninja of the Togakure-ryu.
Ah thank you for that! Yeah I thought I did a typo, but I wasn't sure and decided to risk it. I was not sure if it was senbOn or senbAn. Thank you for the correction, Jehosephat
You're welcome. And you clearly stated in your comment above, "Unfortunately, not even I can throw needles straight." Well, Senban shuriken aren't needles, they are square shuriken that was originally used as tools by carpenters that the ninja eventually improvise.
I thought I got the two mixed up. When I said "needles" I was referring to bo-shuriken, not the senban. Oh, by the by, I claimed to be an authority for Asian Culture & History, not an authority on Hatsumi sensei or his personal weaponry. Thank you again, Jehosephat
Oh... Eh well, to err is human. Thanks for clearing things up.

"Oh, by the by, I claimed to be an authority for Asian Culture & History, not an authority on Hatsumi sensei or his personal weaponry."

Never said you were an expert on Japanese weaponry. I just don't really like the fact that you're using your Asian degree or something to prove that you're credible, because apparently throughout our conversation even I, a mere 14 year old, is more informed than you in terms of weaponry, which is the subject at hand.

Still, the information that you do possess is worth a lot. If I need something regarding Asian history to be cleared up, I'll be sure to ask you =)
Oh hey no problem! And by the by, I am not trying to sound superior to anybody in this. I was just stating facts. And, really, you are only 14? Surely you jest! But, aside all that, I have no problems answering questions you might have. Regards, Jehosephat
Dude, I am 14. Believe it or not. My English is just that good and I am that informed in true Ninjutsu despite my age and nationality (I live in Indonesia and English happens to be the fourth language my parents force-fed me). Just ask Kiteman, Lithium Rain, DJ Radio or any other famous I'bler. Heck, I'm actually not even 14 yet, I'll be 14 next month....

If you're still not convinced, you can take a look at my face, a headshot of me is one of my many profile pictures, although I kinda look a little older than what a generic 14 year old is supposed to look like, so I don't know how convincing that might be =P

And thanks for wanting to answer my questions, good buddy!
I remember when I talked to you on Skype, your voice reminded me of some dude in my class, he is very short and looks like hes 10 or something. Hell, you actually kinda look like him, except he has lighter skin and longer hair.
Cool. Is he stoned? Tell me he is. We can have a stoner party..... I got stoned 2 days ago. Some guy forced a lot beer on to my throat in my school soiree. And... Well, you get the picture. Oh, and you kinda look like this kid in my class, Odang. He just lost his v1rg1n17y last week, no offense.
Hey, getting "stoned" is for druggies, not alchoholics. By the way, I wouldn't mention that stuff online; It got a buddy of mine in sh*t up to his knees a while back, you know "Juvi" & such. Just trying to make sure the people who I like to debate with don't get kicked out. Jehosephat
Not always. Wikipedia clearly states that getting stoned can also mean getting in a state of drunkenness. And I won't get kicked out, what I do in my personal life has nothing to do with this site whatsoever.
True. I'm just watchin out for people. (By the way, Wikipedia's information is not reliable in the least. The patrons change the articles to something they think is right so it doesn't have any solid reasearch evidence.)
Yeah well, Dictionary.com says the exact same thing =)
Well, I guess it's true people learn something new everyday. (Laughs)
Haha, so true.
Heh, very unexpected. I'm more than happy to help you. Just send me a message. Jehosephat
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