operating systems

does anyone know of some other open source operating systems other than Ubuntu and Linux? because I'm getting quite pissed off at windows 2000. EDIT: there is some confusion about what I meant. I meant that Linux is the only OS that I know about. I didn't mean that I had ruled out Linux, I like Linux, I was just wondering about what other OS were out there.

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ReCreate says: Jul 8, 2009. 7:56 PM
There are Many many Linux Distros, There is ReactOS, BEos, OpenBSD,FreeBSD i don't know what others, But your best bet is Windows XP, even if you have to get it illegally, its worth it.
the_mad_man (author) in reply to ReCreateJul 8, 2009. 11:20 PM
YAY for ripping off the man!
ReCreate in reply to the_mad_manJul 9, 2009. 9:22 AM
Umm...What?
the_mad_man (author) in reply to ReCreateJul 9, 2009. 7:57 PM
the man= head of a massive corporation, in this case: Bill Gates.
ReCreate in reply to the_mad_manJul 9, 2009. 8:20 PM
Oh i get it ;)
Punkguyta says: Mar 12, 2009. 8:44 AM
Try window server 2003 doorknob?
ReCreate in reply to PunkguytaJul 8, 2009. 7:58 PM
dorknob?
Punkguyta in reply to ReCreateJul 8, 2009. 8:15 PM
Door-Knob
ReCreate in reply to PunkguytaJul 8, 2009. 10:41 PM
It was a joke...
ItsTheHobbs says: Mar 18, 2009. 1:49 PM
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ReCreate in reply to ItsTheHobbsJul 8, 2009. 7:56 PM
Not free...
ReCreate in reply to ItsTheHobbsJul 8, 2009. 7:55 PM
Not free...
Sandisk1duo says: Mar 15, 2009. 4:56 PM
can you run XP?
the_mad_man (author) in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 16, 2009. 12:05 AM
never tryed
Sandisk1duo in reply to the_mad_manMar 16, 2009. 6:43 AM
what's your CPU speed? Ram? Hd capacity?
the_mad_man (author) in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 17, 2009. 5:08 AM
cpu? dunno ram? 512 MB HD capacity? about 20-25 GB on 2 HDs
Sandisk1duo in reply to the_mad_manMar 17, 2009. 6:40 AM
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PKM in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 18, 2009. 11:26 AM
Might not want to post Piratebay links here. Just saying.
Sandisk1duo in reply to PKMMar 18, 2009. 1:42 PM
how come? it's more legal then some featured instructables
Sandisk1duo in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 17, 2009. 8:31 PM
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xACIDITYx in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 18, 2009. 1:47 PM
Or, and here's a crazy thought, but a legal version of it.
Sandisk1duo in reply to xACIDITYxMar 18, 2009. 2:10 PM
windows 7 download are no-longer available, so i can't link to that
the_mad_man (author) in reply to Sandisk1duoMar 18, 2009. 10:48 PM
even if there was, me no think it would work
xACIDITYx in reply to the_mad_manMar 17, 2009. 5:46 AM
Yeah, you could probably run XP.
11010010110 says: Mar 14, 2009. 5:46 PM
there is windows clone called reactos

linux can be different from ubuntu. try arch (thats what i use) and mandriva one. try the desktops too (kde 4.2 / kde 3.5 / gnome)
hacim says: Mar 12, 2009. 10:58 AM
I've never tried it but there's http://haiku-os.org it is derived from BEos. For embedded stuff there are quit a few alternatives one witch caught my eye was http://www.sics.se/contiki/.
xACIDITYx in reply to hacimMar 12, 2009. 3:19 PM
Unfortunately, HAIKU is a linux variant, I believe. Unfortunately, he wants both open-source, and non-linux.
hacim in reply to xACIDITYxMar 13, 2009. 12:03 PM
from the FAQ: "Is Haiku based on Linux? Haiku is not a Linux distribution. To achieve our goals for Haiku, we decided not to use the Linux kernel, nor to rely on the X Window System or toolkits such as GTK+ or Qt. Instead, Haiku is a self-contained operating system that includes a graphical user interface tightly tied to a unique graphics system, all configuration applications, development tools, the GNU tool chain, and a bash terminal." so I think it is safe to say the haiku is not linux and according to the above passage it doesn't appear to be very unix like either:(.
lemonie in reply to hacimMar 13, 2009. 12:53 PM
What kernel does it use? L
11010010110 in reply to lemonieMar 14, 2009. 5:39 PM
its own one. there were oses with similar kernel (zeta) but haiku kernel is unique to haiku (there are linux distros that tried to pack the entire haiku os as variant of themselfes though - but it does not make it linux)
xACIDITYx in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 3:20 PM
Yeah, I was quite sure it was based off of linux.
lemonie in reply to xACIDITYxMar 13, 2009. 3:35 PM
That's not answering my question. But Linux will have the same ancestor(s) My first experience of UNIX was HP-UX, early 90's and they already had things like multiple desktops... and the Netscape browser... L
xACIDITYx in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 4:16 PM
I wasn't trying to answer your question.
lemonie in reply to xACIDITYxMar 13, 2009. 4:20 PM
It wasn't really appropriate to comment on it then. L
xACIDITYx in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 5:50 PM
... You're being serious?
lemonie in reply to xACIDITYxMar 13, 2009. 11:18 PM
Only slightly. There that's 4 comments that didn't really serve a purpose... ; )
xACIDITYx in reply to lemonieMar 14, 2009. 7:53 AM
Like your last two? : )
lemonie in reply to xACIDITYxMar 14, 2009. 3:32 PM
Yes, that's half of them. If you don't reply to this it'll be 3:2, or would you like a tie? L
Goodhart in reply to lemonieMar 14, 2009. 3:33 PM
Nope, I have too many ties as it is..... ;-)
lemonie in reply to GoodhartMar 14, 2009. 5:30 PM
I have a lot of ties too, but I'm excluding this from the previous discussion L
gmoon in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 4:08 PM
Haiku appears to be inspired by the old BeOS operating systems, which was an independent effort in the early 90's.

Like many now-defunct OS's (amigaOS, GEM, OS2, etc.), some of it's features may have been inspired by Unix, but it's development was entirely independent.

@the_mad_man:
Unix itself was developed by Bell Labs, and there are still commercial versions available. Much of the source code has entered the public domain.

Unix variants such as Solaris, Linux, BSD (the underpinnings of Apple's OSX) are partly based on Unix, but there's no clear linear "code genealogy." Still, their intent to copy the functionality of Unix is plain...

IMHO, many people don't care for Linux simply because their favorite hardware gadget or program isn't supported (a legitimate beef.) I enjoy using it, but often cannot for that reason... But if you don't like Ubuntu interface, there are dozens of other window managers to choose from.
Goodhart in reply to gmoonMar 13, 2009. 4:39 PM
Do you mean BSD or freeBSD ?
gmoon in reply to GoodhartMar 13, 2009. 6:17 PM
I'm not certain if OS X descends from BSD or it's children (or both.)

I do know that BSD is the vector that spread the Unix source code into public distribution. That source code figured prominently in the SCO lawsuits, which ultimately held that most of the code had entered the public domain or was covered by BSD licenses.

SCO owns the Unix trademark, and Unix System V (which came much later than the original Unix or BSD.)

Linux itself may have incorporated some BSD code, but it was originally conceived as a student project to replicate the functionality of Unix, so it was coded independently. Whether Linux retains it's independence...well, I'm not sure any OS can claim to be completely self-contained or inspired.
Goodhart in reply to gmoonMar 14, 2009. 3:34 PM
I wasn't sure if there was a difference or not...
lemonie in reply to gmoonMar 13, 2009. 4:24 PM
Ta, never had anything to do with BeOS, so the information is appreciated. I have had experience of Mac OS-X and I have recognised some familiar UNIX processes (although it's that long ago I can't name any of them) L
gmoon in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 6:18 PM
I also had some dealings with HP-UX, back in my university days...
lemonie in reply to gmoonMar 13, 2009. 11:16 PM
Did the workstations have the biggest CRT monitors you've ever seen? L
gmoon in reply to lemonieMar 14, 2009. 7:09 AM
We had X-Windows terminals, but they weren't HP; probably Sun or Solaris, and pretty average size. It's been awhile, details are fuzzy. ;-) The mainframe was running HP-UX...
lemonie in reply to gmoonMar 14, 2009. 3:40 PM
The workstations were HP, but they had huge monitors, and with RGB inputs too. Only three in my cluster had floppy-drives and there was no GUI support for them - I had to write a drag-and-drop (something) that pointed to a "special device" at one end of a directory tree...

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the_mad_man (author) says: Mar 13, 2009. 12:17 AM
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lemonie in reply to the_mad_manMar 13, 2009. 12:28 AM
the_mad_man (author) in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 12:37 AM
that was a quick reply
lemonie in reply to the_mad_manMar 13, 2009. 11:44 AM
Interesting to read, but how many of them are worth bothering with I wonder? I know Sun's Solaris is a decent system, but I'd not heard of OpenSolaris... L
Lithium Rain in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 5:53 PM
Already posted it!! :-D
fwjs28 says: Mar 13, 2009. 1:37 PM
http://www.linux.org/dist/ and fill out what you want/need....and pick from the list....slax is very user friendly with adding programs....
PKM says: Mar 13, 2009. 10:13 AM
In response to "what other operating systems are there":
- there are UNIX-based non-linux systems like BSD, which are similar to Linux but mostly less friendly.
- There is Mac OS, which is expensive and requires piracy to run on any non-Mac hardware, so I don't recommend (but will be instantly contradicted by gmjhowe)
- And there are some very obscure others which, assuming you are using standard PC hardware and are not the ultimate computer wizard of all time, I wouldn't recommend.

If you want a free alternative to Windows but don't like Ubuntu, I suggest you try a different distribution. I started a thread asking which distros people like and why- Slax and PCLinuxOS are mentioned favourably. I personally like Puppy but it takes some getting used to, and like Windows it's easy to pick up but hard to really customise.
Labot2001 says: Mar 13, 2009. 5:31 AM
What are your hardware specs?
lemonie says: Mar 12, 2009. 1:00 PM
Dump Windows2000, but why not for something UNIX-like?

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the_mad_man (author) in reply to lemonieMar 13, 2009. 12:12 AM
i never said no to linux, just that's all i know about at the moment
ReCreate in reply to lemonieMar 12, 2009. 3:15 PM
he said no...unix = linux
lemonie in reply to ReCreateMar 12, 2009. 4:22 PM
I asked why?

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ReCreate in reply to lemonieMar 12, 2009. 4:25 PM
hey what wha? i thought you replied to my other comment down under my comment i thought you replied to my comment
lemonie in reply to ReCreateMar 12, 2009. 5:05 PM
I commented on the Forum topic. Then you commented on my comment, then I commented on that. ? L
ReCreate in reply to lemonieMar 12, 2009. 9:32 PM
I thought that the comment that says
Dump Windows2000, but why not for something UNIX-like?

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Was a reply to the comment that says
you mean like windows xp?
There...is ...a site...and ...it...works...be...cause...i.....down.....loaded.........it...........and...................installed...................................it........Windows xp corporate edition...

because it was under it like all of the other replies
ReCreate says: Mar 12, 2009. 11:14 AM
you mean like windows xp? There...is ...a site...and ...it...works...be...cause...i.....down.....loaded.........it...........and...................installed...................................it........Windows xp corporate edition...
ReCreate in reply to ReCreateMar 12, 2009. 9:34 PM
a pm should fix your problem
xACIDITYx in reply to ReCreateMar 12, 2009. 3:13 PM
Ah, you mean illegally? Never the way to go.
ReCreate in reply to xACIDITYxJul 8, 2009. 7:58 PM
Or is it?
ReCreate in reply to xACIDITYxMar 12, 2009. 3:15 PM
*whistle*
Lithium Rain says: Mar 12, 2009. 5:14 PM
yourcat says: Mar 12, 2009. 3:40 PM
Ubuntu is Linux. Linux is based on Unix, and together that covers almost everything non-M$. Unix: BSD. I don't really know much about it, but it might be worth a try. Linux: You're not the only one who doesn't really like Ubuntu. I would try PClinuxOS, it's very fast and easy to use, does desktop effects perfectly on my Intel 915, and just works very well.
xACIDITYx says: Mar 12, 2009. 6:07 AM
Ubuntu is Linux, although I can direct you to DistroWatch. Also, ReactOS is being worked on, but is still in a very very alpha stage. On that note, aside from Linux, you can try BSD.
lowercase in reply to xACIDITYxMar 12, 2009. 8:19 AM
what's wrong with linux? (ubuntu). If you're pissed with windows then get OS X.
xACIDITYx in reply to lowercaseMar 12, 2009. 8:46 AM
What? I run ubuntu on my home computer; I love it. where did you get that I hated it?
lowercase in reply to xACIDITYxMar 12, 2009. 9:02 AM
the_mad_man is looking for an OS "other than Ubuntu and linux" so I guess he doesn't like it. I run fedora 10 at home (I moved from xubuntu and then from ubuntu) and I'm really happy with it but for serious and stable work I still prefer OS X at my office.
xACIDITYx in reply to lowercaseMar 12, 2009. 10:50 AM
Ah; it was a reply to me so I assumed it was talking to me.
lowercase in reply to xACIDITYxMar 12, 2009. 11:47 AM
Oops!, you're right ...sorry.
xACIDITYx in reply to lowercaseMar 12, 2009. 3:13 PM
No problem.
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