This was a poor post 3.5 years ago, but what are you asking today?

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Me? I just like stuff thats rad and also stuff that can explode.

Can you get weedkiller containing sodium chlorate?

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well, no. i am always in search on kno3, but i cant find materials for rockets. i just dont have time. i spend a lot a my days make viniger +bs bottle bombs. i need more info of scientific reatcions.

You need powerful-oxidants or fireworks, reactions are no good without the chemicals.



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Like....

We've mentioned two already, have you thought about Thermite for fun?

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Yeah, it makes a nice fireball too :-)

It doesn't go BOOM, It just deflagrates

for explosive such as alumium + oxidant ike ammonium nitrate you need to denonate to make it explode it's like petrol, if vaporised it detonates though most things tend to burn fast or defragralate (I think that's spelt right) like guncotton You know your stuff then... I personally agree with you, ok I have illegally messed with high explosives but you can't do a crash course on the internet it's like being taught how to shoot a gun or a bow over the phone...

Correct. High explosives are generally shock sensitive just enough for another explosive to set it off. This requires a blasting cap. However, I think it's a little hipocritical for me to be telling minors not to do such because I'm only 16 (17 in May), and over a course of 2 years, I've been on and off blowing things up by making high explosives illegally. I'm finished with most of the stuff that'll get me killed by staying with things that require brains to complete. I'm confident I've got the chemistry knowledge to do it. I am not telling anyone on how to do anything that'll kill them or put them in front of a judge or similiar. If you are going to try this anyhow, then I shall try to keep you out of harm's way as much as possible by not (I mean, N-O-T) trusting the Anarchist's Cookbook. The book is old and missing lots of crucial information. If you want to go the way I did, be safe and take lots of chemistry courses like stoichiometry (very important in the energetics field) and what-not. If you have any questions on how to do something, I won't tell you how. But if you are going to do it anyways and want to do a safe check. Please, contact me by e-mail and I'll tell you when you are ready to do this. Thank you, Cobra P.S - killerjackalope, it seems you know your share too!

Same sorta thing except did it since I was 14, I was good at chemistry for a reason, I too distrust the anarchists cookbook, mainly because all web versions are made by idiots pretending to be someone who put his spin on it in a pre blog blog style... I know all too well why not to mess around with high power stuff, I got blown up a few times... but I also blew Up a cave we had a fire at the mouth of, It was good to see bits of wood burning through the sky... It's not worth letting everyone have this info, I know a fair few people who'd be in jail by now... Let them take a firework apart if they want to play, much safer than any high powered explosive, also never ever ever combine napalm and any explosive in to any device, the results are catastrophic... Ha I'm 17 in may, how odd...

I'm finished with most of the stuff that'll get me killed by staying with things that require brains to complete. I'm confident I've got the chemistry knowledge to do it.

This is so true, take making acetone peroxide for instance, as far as actually mixing it up, its as simple as making a cup of tea, however if you were to handle the finished, dryed product without the respect a high(primary)explosive deserves, you could lose a limb or your life, depending on how much you made.
Making a decent black powder on the other hand is a true art, and may take years of practice and testing to get it even half right, and it's not really that dangerous at all to handle, unless your dealing with silly amounts of course.
And what you said about the anarchist crapbook is all to true aswell, me, personnally I would'ent even class it as dangerous anymore, not with all the new bull shit 12year old litle kEwLs are publishing on he net, however it is a dinosour of a book, and most of the chemicals it talks off are no longer available to joe bloggs, on top of this most of the procedures are takin straiht from tv shows of the 70's and 80's. Its a comlete bag of wank basically.

I agree with the black powder argument. However, with acetone peroxide, even though it is an organic peroxide and amongst the explosives you do not want to encounter, is a great thing to learn with when you have enough knowledge and the right equipment. For instance, I have a $50 chem set with accessories like heat pads, extra beakers and flasks. Since I've done enough chemistry courses, I'm pretty confident that I can handle quite a few things "safely". However, I still don't feel like it's safe enough to produce explosives because there are many things that could screw up that many "kewls" don't know about. This is what troubles me when these 12 year old kids go around buying the chemicals they think they need and mixing them together or something. Well, this could go wrong very easily. I'll take the thermite mixture for instance. It's relatively safe to any adult or experienced chemist. When making the iron oxide (Fe2O3), the "easiest" synthesis to oxidize an iron material by putting it in bleach and adding chlorine tabs or the such. They usually make a cup of this mixture and hide it in their room from their parents. Now, for you people that know the slightest bit of chemistry or more, you see where I have a problem with this? Sure, the reaction takes place oxidizing the iron, but the sodium hypochlorite breaks down and the chlorine tabs, together, release chlorine gas (Cl2). If this is under your bed, the smoke detector won't pick it up and you will surely die. Like I said (sorry guys, just want to be sure), if you are going to do something for sure, please contact me so I can guide you through it safely (in the most respectful terms for the paradox that safety doesn't happen in making energetic materials)! Thanks Mr Slippy Fist and Killerjackalope for understanding and explaining everything! -Cobra

try that only about three hundred times bigger (front loader tyre) that blew at some point after 120psi...

I can just imagine.....I went nearly deaf from the bike tire :-)

That's burning, not exploding. Salt peter doesn't explode.

All explosions are burning. It just depends on how fast it burns. An explosion is the build up of gas pressure from combustion. Its all oxidation. Rust is very slow burning. Potassuim Nitrate is the oxidizer

Not quite, an explosion is where a pressure wave causes decomposition (TNT, nitroglycerin, Semtex, c-4...). If you want to use the English (rather than chemical) definition, then not all explosions are burning-an over-filled balloon 'explodes' but does not burn, someone can 'explode' in anger or 'explode' into action.

oh, didn't know that. PS tobacco is baaad, it causes lung cancer cancer, and is gross

Cheese is bad, made from the secretions of a modified sweat gland and left to rot after going threw the stomach of an animal. I tell you what, you don't comment on my given name and I won't comment on your lack of taste.

yes but cheese does not cause cancer and kill your family

Only obesity, and clogged arteries :) I love cheese.

not if you run track and cross country

Ah, so you admit to tormenting farm animals and killing their young so that you can satisfy some insane desire? You had a choice, I was not given one : )

Ugh, veg heads. Oh teh noses we eat cheese. Cheese comes from cows. Apparently jtobako thinks that milking cows torments them and kills their babies (WtH?) So apparently we kill cows by eating cheese. Gotta love that kind of logic. -_-

If you read the post above( May 19, 2007. 8:07 PM TheCheese9921), you might understand. Otherwise, you can go stick your head in a bucket of fetid dingo's kidneys : )

um, play nice now :-)

He put the little smiley face at the end of his not-nice comment. That makes it totally legal.

Oh ok, my failing eyesight missed that LOL

(that previous comment was sarcastic) (next time I'll use italics)

I seem to be missing a lot today......must be the hole in the ozone layer...or maybe I am not paying attention.... *shrug* :-)

For more on the darker side of cheese...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ht1vouSNy4I

Who the hell where those guys? I am somewhat acquanted with BritCom, but those guys are a completly different leval.

They are "Reeves and Mortimer", used to be fashionable amongst students some years ago. Plenty more about, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JdJipPOhno&mode=related&search=

lol, I just wached it its guna be stuck in my head all day, leave it to the British to do that

my dad just got vista and I need the plug in for firefox, so I can't watch it right now I HATE BILL GATES

If at first your don't succeed... Call it Version 1.0

That's a shame. Or you could blame you dad for getting Vista (while it's still a young and unrefined version...). The link is a song & dance routine, which asserts a link between cheese and Voodoo...

If you were to mix 1/3 parts hydrogen and oxygen it would be a lot more interesting.(remember to use a longer pole and hearing protection)

is saltpeter with sugar legal?

then you get gunpowder, black powder, smokelesspowder or whatever you want to call it YAY!!!

That was Enschade, and the camera-man did not live
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuurwerkramp

That he wants a trip to the hospital : (

Uh, I agree.