Pocket 10 watt amplifier

 by Ghild.Zero
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OK , Hi all ..
This my First Project in Instructables ^_^
I am from Indonesia , Here was held 26th SEA Games 2011... GO Indonesia !!!

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Ok check this out ,
This is 10 watt amplifier and LoudSpeaker,
Let me tell you how I make this thing

Part List :
# acrylic
# Loudspeaker
# PCB
# Some Wire
# 9Volt battery Connection 
# Unbalance Jack Female
# Power Jack Female
# Potensiometer
# Capacitor ( 2.2uF ; 470uF ; 100uF ; 0.1uF ; 1000uF )
# Resistor ( 220R ; 2.2R ; 1R )
# IC Tda2003
# Heatsink

 
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Step 1: Build Loudspeaker Box

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Tools I use :
# Saw 
# Drill machine
# Melting Glue

I think the result is not bad , 
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Ok its bad but not really , LOL
faziefazie says: Apr 19, 2013. 5:53 AM
beli akrilik yg kaya gitu dimana ya?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to faziefazieApr 19, 2013. 8:38 AM
Acrilicnya saya potong sendiri gan trus nge-lem sendiri juga , hehe...
xwilkening says: Sep 8, 2012. 2:12 PM
ok, so you said a 12 volt would make this sound better. it sounds interesting but I would need some help, for the power, do you think I could just use a DC wall wart? or would it have to be AC? (sorry if this is confusing, im kind of new to electronics, i've only been working with them for about a year now) and this project seems like a great idea since I love working with speakers and I always get lots of request to build some for people! (i've gotten a request for a mini ipod speaker for $20!)
NatDaGamer says: Jun 27, 2012. 2:59 PM
Can you please tag which capacitor and resistor are which?? I really want to make this however I can't work out where each resistor and capactior go, and how many of each I need. Good instructable otherwise :)
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to NatDaGamerJun 28, 2012. 3:00 AM
Terima kasih NatDaGamer ^_^

Please check this
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SmoothTroopa says: Apr 7, 2012. 9:21 AM
What resistance potentiometer should i put? 10Kohm or 40Kohm?
Also i seem to have a problem with huge distortions on low volumes. Could it be because of the potentiometer being 10kohm?
SmoothTroopa in reply to SmoothTroopaApr 7, 2012. 12:13 PM
Nvm solved it. For anyone wondering i had 2 4ohm speakers wired in paralel. I fixed the distortions by connecting them in series.
klija says: Feb 7, 2012. 10:39 AM
layout is on What?programma
klija says: Feb 7, 2012. 10:36 AM
layaut is on what programm
usbg3rd says: Jan 25, 2012. 1:07 AM
Also that what are Cx and Rx for in the datasheet ? there is no description of the circuit do you have any link ?
usbg3rd says: Jan 25, 2012. 1:05 AM
nice instructable and easy to build too but i have few questions

can someone help me i built it but the output was distorted not too much but it was enough to annoy some one (when the output is at max volume) at lower volume its fine enough.
CONVERSELY
and when i short the capacitor C2(1000uF) the output gets stable and distortion is reduced (at max volume) but gets distorted at lower volume .
strange but true
anyone who has built it can try himself and what is the solution for low distortion at max and min volume simultaneously.
asmith433 says: Nov 21, 2011. 3:53 PM
can you modify it to run on 12 volts or does it need 18 volts because i would like to use it on a robot that only uses 12 volts also what is the maximum wattage it can run
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to asmith433Nov 29, 2011. 4:34 AM
12volt supllay is fine ^_^
asmith433 in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 29, 2011. 3:39 PM
what is the largest speaker you can run (:
dihnen says: Nov 20, 2011. 10:12 AM
I appreciate your modularity, use of standard connectors, power, simplicity, and portability. That is really quite an excellent build.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to dihnenNov 29, 2011. 4:41 AM
Thx ^_^
yusv says: Nov 20, 2011. 7:26 PM
wah, joss tenan dap, wong indonesia iso melbu newsletter, HIDUP INDONESIA
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to yusvNov 29, 2011. 4:37 AM
Saya juga kgk nyangka gan ,, hehehe ^_^
ag621994 says: Nov 21, 2011. 7:56 AM
i have a... maybe stupd question... is it posible to put 2 or more of those in a row?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to ag621994Nov 29, 2011. 4:36 AM
I suggest you to build a stereo amplifier , it is more efective and efesien
eli241 says: Nov 26, 2011. 9:16 PM
hey bro.. can u upload your pcb layout?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to eli241Nov 29, 2011. 4:33 AM
Yes No Problem
http://www.ziddu.com/download/17590310/10wattamplifier.rar.html
ksingh18 says: Nov 28, 2011. 3:36 AM
i think this is a stupid question but can you tell me where to put the Potensiometer in the circuit?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to ksingh18Nov 29, 2011. 4:32 AM
Ok no problem ,
thx for your comment,
here is the design and layout I use
http://www.ziddu.com/download/17590310/10wattamplifier.rar.html
mposlon says: Nov 19, 2011. 8:18 AM
can i put 2x like that speakers to be lauther..or can I put speaker with 3W 3 ohms?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to mposlonNov 19, 2011. 3:07 PM
Power Battery (Watt) > Power Amplifier (Watt) > Power Speaker (Watt)

But , Power Amplifier is fixed at 10 Watt so Power Speaker should not be more than 10 Watt
Seph Cameron in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 20, 2011. 6:32 AM
Wait... haven't you got that in the wrong order? If the amp is putting out 10W max, then your speakers need to have an equal or larger power rating than their input.

Battery power > Amp power < Speaker power
Like that. Because it doesn't matter whether the battery power is higher than the speaker's rating, it's effectively regulated by the amp.

The battery power needs to be higher than the amp power, otherwise you won't get the full 10W. Also, if the amp were fixed at 10W it would be putting out a constant DC current. That doesn't happen. 10W is the maximum rated power you can put through it before you break it.
luvasu in reply to Seph CameronNov 21, 2011. 10:21 AM
Sorry...I miss one data... "I" (amperes). In the case of connecting 18 VDC, appart of the need of a REAL BIG heat sink, and obtain a "near 10W" (probably only 8W), our friend the 2003 will "swallow" near to 3 amperes (I). (Expected NOT to use batteries. )
Seph Cameron in reply to luvasuNov 22, 2011. 12:37 AM
Actually it has a stated efficiency of around 70%, meaning that if the output is 10W with an 18V supply, it'll be going through 0.8A max.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to Seph CameronNov 20, 2011. 7:54 AM
hmmmm...

I think you are right at "10W is the maximum rated power you can put through it before you break it"...thanks

for battery power, Tda2003 have max Voltage Suplay at 18volt and each IC having different max voltage , u can see it at datasheet...

But I have question, how amplifier can amplify something bigger than itself ???

Thank you for your comment ^_^
Seph Cameron in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 20, 2011. 8:25 AM
18 volts isn't power though. It's voltage.

The amplifier is amplifying the input signal, not the power from the battery, that'd be impossible. The simplest way of looking at it is that it's a switch, and the trigger is the signal. It's switching the battery power on and off which is used as an output.

And they're not necessarily amplifiers, you can make signals smaller with them too, or keep them the same size. Any signal can go in, within reason.
iparuk says: Nov 21, 2011. 6:49 AM
It looks like the 100uF and the 100nF capacitor are not realy neccisary sicne you are using batteries. Nice work though.
luvasu in reply to iparukNov 21, 2011. 10:08 AM
100uF, at least, is necessary to maintain a "near constant" drain from the batteries.; as the dynamics of the music calls for instant supply on the TDA2003. The 100nF works here as ripple drain, so, using neat DC (batteries) is not necessary.
Syncopator says: Nov 20, 2011. 10:42 AM
The maximum continuous power developed in an amplifier's load is given by P = Epp² x 8RL, that is, the square of the voltage across the load multiplied by eight times the load impedance.

The following doesn't take into account the maximum ratings of any particular i.c. or other circuit, which may be lower than these figures.

For a 9V supply, the p-p voltage is, depending on the actual circuit, about 8.
With an 8Ω load that translates to a power of 1W, in a 4Ω load 2W, and in 2Ω 4W.

The arithmetic for a 12V supply gives 1.56W in 8Ω, 3.12W in 2Ω and 6.35W in 2Ω.

With an 18V supply the figures are 4W in 8Ω, 8W in 4Ω and 16W in 2Ω.


emerson.john in reply to SyncopatorNov 20, 2011. 3:58 PM
Where in the world did that equation come from? According to that my power amp with +60V and-60V rails should be rated 921,600 W/ch at 8 ohms.
Syncopator in reply to emerson.johnNov 20, 2011. 4:35 PM
Where on earth did you get that figure from?

Let's do the arithmetic, using the equation I gave (which is, believe me, correct.)

The equation is:

power in load = peak to peak voltage across the load divided by 8 times the load impedance

i.e. assuming an unlikely rail to rail swing, 120 x 120 ÷ (8 x 8)

14,400 ÷ 64 = 225W
emerson.john in reply to SyncopatorNov 20, 2011. 7:29 PM
Look again at the equation you gave in your first comment:
P = Epp² x 8RL
In your second comment you used: P = Epp² / 8RL

I can live with the second equation just fine! It works the same as the formula I use: Pavg = (Vpeak)^2 / 2R

My amp clips cleanly and symmetrically at 120 Vp-p at 8 ohms, will not clip at 4 ohms, just blows the 8A line fuse before it gets to clipping. These tests used dummy loads, of course!
Syncopator in reply to emerson.johnNov 21, 2011. 1:33 AM
Aaah, yes John. Sorry about the silly mistake. I should check more carefully before pressing the POST button.
panic mode says: Nov 20, 2011. 11:50 AM
Congratulation on your build. I see that you are quite handy man and did all stages from etching the board to putting it all into custom enclosure. Nice job, keep it coming.

There were several questions about power so I will try to explain a bit. While the chip is rated for up to 10W output, actual power depends on several factors (supply voltage, speaker impedance, cooling of the chip and level of distortion user can tolerate).

Obviously one cannot get 10W output from 0.5W speaker. Also distortion is important so keeping it under 0.1% is a very good idea. For example rated 10W output is at massive 10% distortion which is not really usable.

Figure 7 of ST datasheet ( http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/stmicroelectronics/1449.pdf ) shows that on 4 Ohm, good quality output can be produced only up to 4W (when powered from 14.5V). To get a bit more power (and keep distortion low) one needs lower impedance speaker and higher voltage. We could use this ratio as rule of thumb to estimate reasonable power output at low distortion to be less than half of rated (4W is close to half of 10W).

Figure 3 of mentioned datasheet shows relationship voltage/speaker impedance/maximum power. that on 4 Ohm and 9V for example, maximum output power is 2W (or about 1W if we want to keep distortion low).

Figure 11 shows efficiency of the amp with 4 Ohm speaker.
For power up to 4W or so, efficiency is under 50%.
this means that 4W on speaker,is only half (or less) of power amplifier takes from DC power source. The difference is turned into heat. One of my soldering irons is 8W so even little power can reach high temperature if concentrated in small area (this is why we need heatsinks- it is to increase cooling area). But for cooling to be efficient, it need to allow air circulation, otherwise it will only work until air inside enclosure warms up. After that, area of the enclosure and heat conductivity of the enclosure walls are another limit.

Battery operation of course limits maximum output specially since 9V batteries are only good for low current. For example one of top brands is Energizer and here is datasheet for 9V battery:
http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/522.pdf

Note that at higher current draw, capacity drops down. For example at 500mA capacity is only about 300mAh so it would drain in (300mAh/500mA)*60min = 36minutes. But look closer, the datasheet shows that this is to discharge battery down to half of rated voltage or 4.8V. For amplifier this is unusable. Probably the most one can get is discharge to say 7V which is maybe half this time. Also batteries one get may not be top brand and maybe they were sitting on the shelf for long time so capacity is lower.

My estimate is that is good for up to 0.25-0.3W in current application (which is still plenty of fun).
thrawn1 says: Nov 20, 2011. 9:35 AM
I built my self a not dissimilar stereo version of this (using the TDA2003) a few years ago, it is still going strong as my garage sound system. Thanks for not being lazy and sharing it with the world.
rimar2000 says: Nov 17, 2011. 4:38 PM
Are audio output these 10 watts? Or are AC intake?

10 watts of audio are a lot for a so little amplifier.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to rimar2000Nov 18, 2011. 12:39 AM
The Power Output of IC tda2003 is 10 watt
Yes , it a little amplifier but I prefer look at the concept ^_^
rimar2000 in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 18, 2011. 5:39 PM
With 10 Watts well managed, you can make a good HiFi stereo player.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to rimar2000Nov 18, 2011. 5:52 PM
Really ???
I must learn a lot from you ...
rimar2000 in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 19, 2011. 11:57 AM
Oh, sorry! That is the only thing I know about the matter, and I have already taught it to you...
WWC says: Nov 18, 2011. 4:12 PM
Can this be used with a mic input?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to WWCNov 18, 2011. 5:50 PM
I am sorry it can not
rifakungen says: Nov 17, 2011. 10:13 AM
Pretty fun build. but using a 9V battery connector is not really a good idea...
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to rifakungenNov 17, 2011. 11:47 PM
I think 9V battery connector more simple and easy ^_^
have better idea ??
thx for your comment
rifakungen in reply to Ghild.ZeroNov 18, 2011. 1:17 AM
a 1/8th inch headphone jack and connector would be much better. As when you are usiong a 9V battery connector it's easy to accidentially connect the battery to the speaker output. Or even to he speaker if someone withouth knowledge start to play around with the stuff.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to rifakungenNov 18, 2011. 4:18 AM
Yes You're right ^_^
maybe I will draw a mark to define it
Newton says: Nov 18, 2011. 3:59 AM
Nice build, well done.
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to NewtonNov 18, 2011. 4:16 AM
Thx Dude ^_^
asoo says: Nov 17, 2011. 2:00 PM
Well, I would try to fit the batt in the casing, anyway well done
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to asooNov 18, 2011. 12:33 AM
Nice ^_^
asoo says: Nov 17, 2011. 1:59 PM
U can also used permanent marker to draw out those circuit line
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to asooNov 18, 2011. 12:32 AM
Yes , but at the time I only have marker with big diameter ^_^
So I use wire to make it clean and neat
vmališ says: Nov 17, 2011. 1:50 PM
Hi, I happen to have a TDA 2006 can it be used instead?
Ghild.Zero (author) in reply to vmališNov 18, 2011. 12:29 AM
I think so,
because they have same pinout,
but max supply power for td2006 is 15Volt and for tda2003 is 18volt.
Power output tda 2003 is 10 W and tda 2006 is 12 W...
but I suggest you use the circuit for tda2006
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