Introduction: 2003 Dodge Caravan Broken Blend Door Hack - Fixed Mine for 2 Bucks!!!

Late spring sometime the heat in my 2003 Dodge caravan went out. After letting it go for a few weeks I started some research and found several trouble shooting web sites like the link below and I was able to determine the blend door in my van was broken. The blend door actuator (motor) tested good, but the shaft it connected to on the heater box was loose inside the heater box. When turned, the shaft sticking out would catch a little bit, but then would continue to turn a round and around, it should only turn a quarter turn or so. So I knew the shaft was no longer connected to the door.

http://www.justanswer.com/dodge/2tb5o-2003-dodge-c...

I googled and googled and all the posts I could find on how to fix the issue involved removing the entire dash from the van, or paying someone else in excess of $1,500 to do it for me! And since I paid slightly more than 5 grand for this van a little more than 5 years ago, sinking 1500 bucks into it didn't seem like a good investment nor something I was about to do. And the idea of removing the entire dash was too overwhelming for a weekend project. This Van is my daily driver after all.

So I spent a little more time looking online for a different fix and hoping to get an idea of what the heater box looked like inside and what the blend door that was broken looked like with hopes of finding a different way to fix this problem.

So I spend the summer without heat, which in Michigan this year wasn't too bad. However, as the weather started turning colder I started searching again. There's no way I want to try to get through winter without heat! In my searching this time I even made a trip to the local junk yard hoping to get some ideas, but didn't have any luck coming up with any. And I still couldn't find a fix or anything else to try, then I came across this post on flicker of someone who had gone through the process of removing their dash to fix their blend door the correct way...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/green-ghost/5221667787/

In his posts he had the first picture of the broken blend door I could find and He provided some great information about the replacement process. Namely that the blend door was not sold by itself, but rather the whole heater box assembly was sold as one unit and that whole unit had to be replaced to fix the problem. Well that told me I had nothing to loose. I had no heat and the fix is to replace the whole heater box that contained the blend door... So cutting into the heater box would cost me nothing as the whole thing would be replaced if I couldn't fix it and had to go the "correct" route to have it fixed... I started by cutting out a square slightly larger than the shaft opening around the shaft of the blend door in the side of the heater box by the drives side petals. Originally I did this with hopes of fixing the broken door in place. But once I saw the broken shaft first hand I knew it wouldn't be easy to glue or repair the door and a replacement door would be in order... So I cut a slot in the side of the heater box big enough that I could slip the whole door out... Then I decided to visit the junk yard again. As I mentioned before I had been there earlier this summer trying to get a better look at the blend door in a 'broken' van with no success. But having already visited the same junk yard I had just the van in mind to get a replacement door from. The van's dash was already mostly destroyed or removed by other people making for easy access to the heater box. I 'carefully' removed the blend door from the heater box, with a tire iron I found in the van. When I got to the desk to pay for the blend door the gentleman at the check out asked what it was and when I told him it was a blend door for a caravan he said it looked like "free" to him... So I left the junk yard only having to pay the 2 bucks it cost for admission to the yard.

When I got home I put some white lithium grease on the ends of the blend door and slipped it back trough the slot I had made in the heater box. Using some gorilla tape I taped the parts I had cut out of the heater box back over the hole. When the blend door is put back in, it falls to the coldest setting by default. So, I turned the van on and made sure the heat was set to the coldest setting and then installed the blend motor again. I tested the motor alignment by changing the heat as hot as it would go and back to cold again and I could hear the door moving as designed and stopping where intended. Now I have heat in my van once again!!! And it only cost 2 bucks to fix!

Good luck!

Step 1: WIsh I Had Better Pictures...

If I had to do it again I'd; a: take better pictures so I could explain this better... b: I would make a single cut out part so there would be a good piece to put back over the hole I made. But when I started out I was just hacking and hoping... which left me with a lot of small parts.

I used my Oscillating cutter/sander from Harbor Freight with the blade it has on it in the picture to make the cuts in the heater box.

The red rectangle shown in the picture is the approximate area that needs to be cut out to remove the blend door. You can see from my picture that the hole I made was not so nicely cut out.

***You will need the part you cut out around the shaft to put back to keep the shaft in place. So make sure you cut around that carefully! Thankfully I thought that far ahead when I started cutting. Also, be sure when cutting NOT to remove the whole stand behind the blend motor that provides support to the motor, see picture.

Feel free to contact me if you have questions and good luck fixing your blend door for a fraction of the work and cost of doing it the 'correct' way!

And remember this is a 'hack fix', no grantee how long it will last... but it could save you 1500 bucks or more!

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Flux101 made it!(author)2016-11-29

Thanks for this! Completed it today for a customer. He couldn't afford the repair in addition to the other repairs his 2007 Caravan needed so I told him I'd give this a try.

To repair the door I drilled a hole in the end of the gear piece and a smaller hole in the shaft of the door and used a long screw to pull them together. I finished it off with some quick set JB Weld fire strength and will be using Gorilla Tape to seal the box.

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Juise99 made it!(author)2015-10-29

Thanks for posting this, saved my ass! Rather than making a new post I'll just add my pictures here and deposit my $.02 on the process.

When checking your actuator don't assume it works as it's supposed to just because it moves! As it turns out my climate control module was at fault for the blend door breaking. The gear on the actuator should only do about 30% of a rotation, mine was somewhere around 110%! Since these are actuators and not servos they keep going until the power is killed.

Unless you're 5'1" and 95lbs, remove the driver side seat! You'll need a 21mm deep well socket to do it.

I used a dremel and a hot knife to cut the plastic. I didn't take a picture but I sealed it all up with duct tape when I was finished.

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zooedca made it!(author)2016-09-15

What epoxy/glue did you use? I tried Gorilla glue epoxy and it did't hold. I even cleaned the joints etc with brake cleaner.

When putting the door back in, was it easy to get the far end back in the pivot?

My cut out didn't go as nice as yours and used same tools. The bottom half under actuator had thicker plastic in places so only got half out but was enough to get the door out.

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funcky made it!(author)2015-10-29

You are very Welcome! Makes me really happy to know this was helpful for You! And thanks for the extra info and pictures!

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TamraH2 made it!(author)2016-07-20

I have a 2002 dodge Grand Caravan and my blend door is cracked need help fixing it. Please thank you will pay but i am on ssi need help befor winter hits

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funcky made it!(author)2016-07-28

Tamera, unfortunately I am not a mechanic by trade and do not have the time or availability to work on anyone else's vehicles. But I hope you are able to find someone that can help you.

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rgerber1 made it!(author)2016-06-08

you can buy sheets of ABS plastic in different thicknesses/ sizes , I realize the dash is plastic but sanding it and JB weld plus some gorilla glue RTV has saved me from trying to piece back the small hacked out pieces

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klajn made it!(author)2015-12-03

Hi,

I've got '98 Grand Voyager with the same heating problem. Actuator works (when I move the temp dial unscrewed actuator turns). Flap door is ok (it goes up and down quarter turn only). Only that when I change its position manually all it does is to move cold air towards windshield or legs respectively. Metal hoses bringing coolant are warm/hot. I get warm air randomly in short blasts but mostly its cold and I have to drive in hat/gloves. Should I hack in and try to fiddle with its intestines?

Thanks for any ideas.

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funcky made it!(author)2015-12-08

I'm not a mechanic, but did a quick google search and it looks like the 98 has a different style heater box than my 2003... not sure this 'fix' will apply. But from what you are stating, the flap moves fine and only changes the direction of air flow, "...it does is to move cold air towards windshield or legs respectively"... I'm thinking You are looking at the wrong actuator...? is there another actuator? should be the looking for the mode door, not the zone door...

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klajn made it!(author)2015-12-10

Thanks for reply. Actuator is the good one - temperature dial moves it. The other one is for windshield/face/legs and works as well. My working theory now is thermostat or clogged core. Problem is I can work on it only in Sundays and only when it doesn't rain (means not very often). Will let you know what it was once I find the cause.

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JohnnyB21 made it!(author)2015-10-21

i had same issue with my 07 caravan [broke door] , i took out heater core and forced door open through heater core hole , jammed it open , put core back in , real heat now , thanks this helped alot .

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funcky made it!(author)2015-10-22

I'm glad to hear this was able to help You!

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sonicb00m made it!(author)2015-01-01

I see that my Actuators are all working. Is it possible the blend door isn't moving even through the actuators are?

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funcky made it!(author)2015-01-01

It sure is, that is what was happening on mine. The actuator worked but the shaft was broken. Fastest test is to remove the actuator motor and try to turn the shaft of the blend door by hand. ...if the shaft turns all the way around, the door needs to be replaced. The shaft should only be able to make about a quarter of the circle if the shaft is still attached to the door, it might catch a bit but if it goes all the way around the shaft is no longer connected to the door.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/green-ghost/5251154103/in/photostream/

The above picture shows the broken blend door in the lower right with the broken part of the shaft laying next to it... might looked just like that when it came out.

Good luck!

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mvezinabeaulieu made it!(author)2014-11-16

Hi funcky
I don't know if this post is too old for you to see it but I have to thank you. After searching the entire net, your post saved me a lot of money. I dig at the same place as you, found the godamn trap and succesfully fixed it in heat mode. It was urgent since in quebec, we sometime reach -30° C in winter. Thanks again. This post was really useful.

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funcky made it!(author)2014-11-16

I'm so happy to hear you were able to find and benefit from this Instructable!! Thanks for letting me know, and You are very welcome!!

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MsSweetSatisfaction made it!(author)2014-09-21

Nice fix! Thanks for sharing!

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funcky made it!(author)2014-09-21

Thanks.

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