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30lb Fighting Robot-Nyx

30lb Fighting Robot-Nyx
I recently built a new 30lb fighting robot for the NERC Sportsman class and Dragon*Con Robot Battles events. This instructable will follow the build process and will include links to parts suppliers, machining resources and .dxf drawings of the custom components used to make the robot.

If you are serious about building your own version of this robot, contact me and I'll be happy to help where I can.
 
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Step 1A pile of parts and the first day of the build

A pile of parts and the first day of the build
The pile of flat stock was waterjet cut by Westar Mfg. out of 6061 aluminum and 4130 steel.

Drawings for this collection of parts along with materials, thicknesses and quantities can be found here.

The top armor and two supplimental weapons were not included in that collection to allow modifications to be made for weight purposes. Those files are located here.

These drawings were done with the intent that most would be made on a waterjet, and as such did not require dimensioning. Each of the drawings that was meant for waterjet cutting has a 1" reference square on the sheet.

With the great deal of interlocking components, the order of assembly is important. The first components to be assembled are the weapon hub, support hubs and weapon sprocket. Doing this first also showed the first issue in the build. The sprocket model on McMaster.com did not have the correct hole spacing which meant only 3 of the 6 planned bolts would fit. These holes are all meant for a #10 bolt, and without a clearance hole bit on hand, one had to be ordered.

The other main piece of the day was countersinking the holes on the inner rails to ensure there would be no contact between the moving roller chain and the bolt heads. The front threaded spacers also needed to be added and loctited as the bolt heads will be covered by the D shaped bearing blocks during assembly. A product called Nutstrip is used to connect the panels together, allowing for quick assembly.
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Feb 11, 2012. 11:35 PMumair.moiz says:
ghfgh
Feb 11, 2012. 8:02 PMrocketman7 says:
Great Robot! My friend builds fighting robots too! He is in the Combot competition... He says that you have to hit it with a sledgehammer and drop it off a high building. If it breaks, then it will certainly break in the competition.
Feb 5, 2012. 5:54 PMgraydog111 says:

What happened to "Battlebots" on TV? That was one of my favorite shows.
Feb 7, 2012. 11:28 AMgraydog111 says:
Thanks Mike. I'd love to see them back on the air every week. It would sure beat basketball.
Feb 6, 2012. 7:57 AMdustinnewton says:
I always wondered who had control of the episode rights. That's one series that I would gladly buy on DVD in a heartbeat. I always enjoyed watching them.
Feb 2, 2012. 9:30 PMKelpbot says:
It seems like a very solid robot! Very nice job. Im not sure about what you want from this robot, but it seems that it has almost more speed than it needs. I would consider using a 1:3 or more gear ratio for the drive system. Although some speed would be sacrificed, the control over turning would increase, and there would be less stress on the motors (although they are very durable). I personally would prefer this to lowering the motor power to slow it down.
Feb 5, 2012. 10:25 AMlawsonuw says:
A better idea is to keep the speed and install a tail-rotor gyro between the receiver and the v-tail mixer. Even the cheapest gyro will let you power-slide around the arena like a god. (works great on ice too :D ) The Holmes Hobbies controllers look like they do synchronous rectification so they're better than the Victor 883's my first bots used, but a gyro is the best.

Also, the side plates holding your wheels look fairly weak. A spinner hit to the corner of the bot and the long spacer bolts will bend right off.

P.S. My most successful bot is Micro Vice http://www.buildersdb.com/botdetails.asp?botid=6135 uses a steering gyro and is a blast to drive.
Feb 6, 2012. 10:54 PMlawsonuw says:
Ah, a no spinner class. In that case you're armor's too heavy :P

No plans to compete right now. While Insomnia had a wicked weapon, it was lightly armored, so it got "retired" in it's last battle. (certainly still competitive with enough spare parts) I botched up the execution of Vice, so it's mostly a sculpture now. Micro Vice was born as a test-bed for a rebuild of Vice, but is FAR more effective than I expected.  I was slowly iterating the design when I got a good idea how to make an AWD motorcycle.  The motorcycle has since chewed up all my time.

P.S. the GWS P-03 was my gyro of choice.  Cheap, fairly symmetrical CW to CCW, and a minimal dead zone. 
Feb 2, 2012. 10:13 PMKelpbot says:
Valid point. Just an idea. Good luck with your battles!
Feb 5, 2012. 2:07 PMthrashermanTotalDIY says:
nice! check out my contest for this. Battle bots Contest. Please Enter
Feb 2, 2012. 6:28 AMfrank26080115 says:
That's awesome.

How much did this cost?

I saw your other robot, what lessons did you learn from the other robot that you applied to the design of this one?

Do the "nano-tech" batteries really make a difference over traditional Li-poly?
Feb 5, 2012. 7:26 AMGiesterfarher says:
As to batteries. I'm not too familiar with the voltages required for your robots, but for weight savings, you might look into these Shorai Lithium/Iron batteries.

Yes. I said Iron. :)

They have a carbon fiber case, and the one I bought for my Sportster weighed less than 1 lb. and was half the size of my stock battery. The neatest thing about them is, the hotter they get, the more efficient they are, so in an enclosed space with hot motors running right next to it/them, voltage losses should not be an issue.

Good luck with your competition!

http://www.shoraipower.com/c-1-batteries.aspx

Feb 5, 2012. 9:01 AMKinnishian says:
Hmm, your battery is most likely Lithium Iron Phosphate, also referred to as LiFePO4 and LiPO4. I tried to find more information on the website about the battery type, but couldn't. I am actually very skeptical of battery resellers who don't include more information about their product.


That said, LiPO4 can offer a lot of energy/kg. It's not particularly volumetrically dense, though, and can take as much as 1.5 or 2x the space of bare LiPo packs. Overall, nanotech beats LiPO4 in almost all measures except 1) safety and 2) lifespan.

Anyway. I also wanted to comment in case someone pops up and says "no, you're wrong. Lithium/Fe is _____ type of battery." Because i'd love to hear about something new.
Feb 5, 2012. 9:40 AMGiesterfarher says:
You are correct about them being LiFePO. There is a FAQ section on the site, and there used to be a technical section there as well that was way over my head, but I can't find it now. It's possible it gave away too much and they took it down to protect proprietary secrets?

I'm not familiar with nanotech batteries, but if there is a safety issue, or for that matter a cost issue, then maybe the LFX batteries ARE worth a look. It wouldn't do to have the robot explode when a titanium spike pierces it resulting in mass destruction and death of the audience, would it? ;)

Here's the FAQ section, in case you didn't see it before.

http://www.shoraipower.com/t-faq.aspx
Feb 2, 2012. 7:00 AMlewisb42 says:
Regarding cost, I'd particularly like to know how much the waterjetting was, in case it might just accidentally fit my budget. :)

Also, I like the way you offset the wheels in order to fit the drive chain and sprockets in. That's an great potential solution to a problem I've been mulling over for my next 3-lb robot. (Though I'd be doing it with timing belts, not chain.)
Feb 5, 2012. 9:34 AMdausmus says:
How does that waterjetting cost compare with laser cutting the same parts?
Feb 4, 2012. 4:20 PMVinceJDJ says:
I logged in just to favorite this. Nice work dude!
Feb 3, 2012. 5:41 PMlakiyama says:
Wow, way to set the bar high! Good luck in the Make it Real challenge
Feb 2, 2012. 6:00 PMad895 says:
very cool i like the design. i too build battle bots, but mine is though my school. we have a weight limit of 15 lbs our designs look alot like yours but with a different weapon ours is like a 3-5 pound beater bar
Feb 2, 2012. 2:19 PMblack hole says:
Is this named for Nyx, the Greek goddess of the night?
Feb 3, 2012. 2:13 PMblack hole says:
Have you used Enyo (i-nye-oh), the war goddess? It would be fitting.
Feb 2, 2012. 2:20 PMblack hole says:
Great job, by the way. I voted and I hope you win!
Feb 3, 2012. 4:29 AMehudwill says:
Good looking robot. Seeing this makes me nostalgic for the days when Battlebots was on television.
Feb 2, 2012. 6:34 AMNotquitepinoy says:
your robot is awesome it has a virtually flat profile... hopefully it fights well... good job
Feb 2, 2012. 2:44 PMAron313 says:
Wow i didnt know there was a competition in PA! I live near coatesville i when is the competition?
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