Step 6: Assemble Drive System

To assemble the drive system,

Take the completed pipes with swing attachment and pressed roller clutches,

A shaft collar for each side of the pipes, pillow blocks, and gear,

And the Gear,

And slide the drive shaft back through everything. Tighten the shaft collars after everything is where it should be, with the drive shaft sticking out one side and the gear on the outside.

Be sure to leave room for flailing arms and legs when swinging. on an eight foot wide swing, we found two adults fit.
Swinging from the end of a lever allows you to swing toward and away from the fulcrum which causes a dramatic increase in work being done. Adding extra weight to the seat allows more weight to shift its position relative to the fulcrum. The changing forces on the other end of the lever chan drive our pumps and generators witg less work than otherwise possible. <br>Check out swinggen.com for more...
I just read all 83 comments and I am blown away! What amazing things can be created when so many brilliant minds share thoughts and ideas. I am so impressed. We need other great minds working on everything it would take to get us all of the grid if that is our desire. I have no doubt that it could be done especially with internet sharing like you have done here. Way to go!!!
Congratulations!! You've done something I've always wanted to do, but only accomplished perhaps on rare occasions after a show storm {help shoveling...} -<br> <br> YOU'VE HARNESSED KID-POWER!! *AND* made it FUN!! You ought to get a Nobel Prize or something.
I was highly skeptical when I initially landed on this instructable; however, after a careful read.......VERY GOOD JOB!!
If you placed an additional generative device on the opposite side of the swing, it would allow energy to be produced in both swinging directions with very little modification to your i'ble here.
sir i m orvil diaz doing mechanical engg final sem!!1 we r doing des project of urs for our final semester...sirr we plzz u to gve us some more knoledge abt des...sir cn we meet on fb??
Morning, Cleveland.<br> <br> Success with my swingset - pumping water at 3 liters a minute - videos here...<br> <br> <a href="../A-Garden-Swing-Powered-Water-Pump/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instructables.com/id/A-Garden-Swing-Powered-Water-Pump/</a><br> <br> And here's another swingset being used to pump water, this time in Africa...<br> <br> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oictq_v_kN4&feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oictq_v_kN4&amp;feature=related</a><br> <br> How's yours coming along?
We're planning on using a similar set-up and this is pretty much where we're headed with the Math for this...<br> <br> In step 10, you mention the length of the chains affecting the speed of the drive shaft turning...<br> The length of a pendulum directly affects the time taken for that pendulum to complete one &quot;swing cycle&quot; or &quot;period&quot;... the longer the pendulum the longer the time taken to complete one period.<br> There's a mathematical formula to calculate this period - it's<br> <br> T=2<span class="st">&pi;</span><span class="st">&radic;L/g<br> <br> where:<br> T = </span>period<br> <span class="st">&pi;</span><span class="st"> = 3.142 (Pi)<br> L = the length of the pendulum<br> g = 9.81&nbsp; (gravitational acceleration)</span><br> <br> there's a website with an automatic calculator here <a href="http://easycalculation.com/physics/classical-physics/simple-pendulum.php" rel="nofollow">http://easycalculation.com/physics/classical-physics/simple-pendulum.php</a><br> <br> A 2 meter long pendulum takes 2.84 seconds to complete 1 period, which gives 21.1 periods per minute.<br> <br> Based on a swing arc of 90 degrees, work out the amount of travel made by a point on the circumference of the pivot gear, &quot;x&quot;....&nbsp; x = <span class="st">(&pi;d)/4&nbsp;&nbsp; where </span>d=diameter of the gear.<br> Work out the circumference of the smaller gear, &quot;y&quot;.... y = <span class="st">&pi;d</span><br> Divide x by y to get the amount of revolutions made by the smaller gear for 1 pendulum swing, and then multiply that by the periods per minute to get the rpm figure for swinging at a 90 degree arc.<br> <br> For us, using the rim of a bike wheel at the pivot to drive a toothed or V belt which in turn drives a BMX freewheel, and using a 1.5 meter pendulum, the Math gives us an rpm of around 90 at the freewheel, which is perfect for our purposes.<br> <br> Variables:<br> Length of pendulum<br> Diameter of pivot gear<br> Diameter of smaller gear<br> Swing arc degrees<br> <br> We've set ourselves a deadline of 2 weeks from today to get this up and running and will post details of results when we have them.
Hey Azizas,<br><br>Thanks you very much for taking the time to reply with those calculations! I am very excited to see how your project turns out.<br><br>I would expect since the pendulum in this case is a self powered swinger, and not simply gravity, the timing will be different than your formula would suggest. Since the arc will be generally be longer than 90 degrees, and the swinger can speed up and slowdown as they wish. <br><br>That said, I think those calculations will be a great starting point.<br><br>I also agree with you that the solid bars will reduce thrust loss in each chain link. <br><br>I am beginning to build the second version of the swing set now and am only useing car parts and bicycle parts as would be available in developing nations. Having learned the lessons of the first prototype i think that this second one will be more efficient, cheaper to build, and easier to source parts for, taking it out of the realm of an art project and into a possible source of power.<br><br>Please let me know how your project goes, i am very interested in seeing your results.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Cleveland<br>
I like this.<br> <br> In looking for a motive power source for our project, we came up with and discussed this idea. We've done enough of the Math to know that it's viable for us.<br> We don't have the access to the type of parts and engineering that you have, though, and will be making this from readily available components - mainly bicycle parts.<br> A 27&quot; bike wheel at the pivot driving a BMX style freewheel would give around 2 rotations of the freewheel for one pendulum swing - flywheel regulated to try to avoid too much variation in output - that's what we're aiming for.<br> Nice to see that the idea can work.<br> <br> A thought, if I may... as an offshoot of this, if you ditched the electrical generation side, you could power most anything requiring a low rpm rotational movement if you add weight to the swing seat to up the torque generated.<br> Also, solid bars instead of chains would be a definite efficiency improvement.<br> <br> You have a good, solid project here - all the best of luck with it!<br> <br> Aziza's Place, Cambodia<br> <a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Coil-Pump-V20-testing-rig/ ">https://www.instructables.com/id/Coil-Pump-V20-testing-rig/ </a>
Nice project you are really thinking outside the box. Have you tried a fixed bar instead of the chain, that would allow you to put maximum torque to the thrust bearings and would allow you to drop the seat height back down to give a longer swing stroke. If you check out the mythbusters video of is it possible to 360 on a swing they point out that the you can only 360 on a fixed bar. seems you loose a percentage of your possible thrust on every link in your chain. with a fixed bar you get 100% Adding a massive flywheel something like a car wheel with the tire filled with concrete, would be slow to get going but would store a mass of energy to keep the generator going a a decent speed on your back swing. fixed arms combined with a flywheel would be my 2 cent worth. Fantastic post. Andy.
I think you are on the money with this Dr. An added advantage of fixed bars would be the swings could possibly be permanently &quot;fixed&quot; to the bar in phase with each other which we have found to be the most effective swinging. if they were fixed we wouldn't need to deal with loss of thrust with the ratchet bearings... of course then you'd have these steel bars swinging pretty quickly even if only one was being swung...
Brilliant! Energy from humans. When do you think it will become self aware ?
Brilliant! I've often thought of an electricity generating treadmill for pets. So they could earn their keep while I'm at work. 10 minutes of treading drops out a morsel or two of food. :D
hey you could scrounge the one one way clutch from old bikes
dude hook it up to a flashing light display and bring it to the burn!
Look for it in the deep playa, it'll come alive when you swing.
Too Darn Cool! Leave it to you California Swingers... LOL
what about using solid swing attachments for half the length of the swing arm... this would allow some free movement at the bottom, but also give a longer connection point to make sure you are turning the drive shaft a considerable amount. I think it would also help out in the torque dept, and allow for a larger gear on the drive shaft.
if you can get to twelve volts, you could get an alternator, and a surge protector... and charge a laptop, or what ever you want to..... at the voltage you are trying to use now, you could only do things like hand held gaming devices, cell phones, e-readers... portable stuff....... thats my two cents!
I think it would be great if the swing could power a regular emergency generator or battery cells that could be used for any number of purposes.
hi i was thinking about making this for a physics project comming up and i was just wondering around what the cost to make this was?
&nbsp;the generator alone i received a grant for which cost around 1500$. the swing was given to me, and the rest of the parts involved cost at least another 500. you could certainly do it cheaper if you could use an exiting generator, but the machine parts like the drive shaft, collars, roller clutches etc, get pretty pricy. good luck, let me know how it turns out.
pz give detale knowlge in this project.<br /> &amp;this step.................
Just thinking...<br /> <br /> You could make a linear generator and use the substantial speed and arc of the swinger to really generate some juice. Plus the higher you swing the more juice you will get.&nbsp; There are several ways I can imagine how to accomplish this feat while allowing the swinger to swing naturally.&nbsp; I'll let you work on how that may be accomplished but, it is very doable.&nbsp; <br /> <br /> You would need to deal with the polarity reversals in such a setup&nbsp;but you could also handle&nbsp;that several ways with your obvious ingenuity and electro mechanical&nbsp;skills.<br /> <br /> Great,&nbsp;and creative&nbsp;Instructable.&nbsp; Thanks for sharing it with us all.
I wonder if a flywheel on the generator shaft would boost its power output? At the very least, it would even things out a bit.
It would likely even out the power spikes a bit, but not particularly necessary unless the circuit can't handle them. Sadly, it would not increase output.
Unless you get one of them fancy perpetual generation flywheels... is there more/less loss of power from the circuitry vs. the friction of the flywheel's added mass? ie: does the circuit blow off spikes as heat? if so, it might be more efficient w/ the flywheel, and thus increase net output.
I have a different approach possibly for the power generation. You could use induction. If instead of having the swing force move a flywheel or such, have a decently large magnet, and have it swing by a wire. if you put it through a rectifier, you can be generating power in both directions of the swing, and there would be WAY fewer moving parts to get your clothes sucked off by! I believe an earlier magazine issue had a project to power your tv remote by using a tube with copper wire wrapped around it with a magnet in it, you shake the remote for a few seconds and you have power. Same idea, just on a bigger scale.
And if they're wearing a watch while swinging... or a cell phon or anything like that... It's gone (: (Unless you have some really weak magnets that won't be able to reach between the swinger and the set)
Umm, im talking about magnets. Not an EMP burst....... I'd keep your Hard drive away maybe...
And credit cards. I rethought your idea and realized I interpreted it differently... It's all about wording! Keep any data things (USB, Hard Drive, Floppy Disks (If that applies), Credit cards, Library cards, Any cards (Not playing cards unless they are microchip-equipped or something)), and yea that's about it. Watches and cell phones are fine.
Ok. I don't think you have a very good grasp on just how strong a magnetic field would have to be to wipe credit cards, hard drives, anything at all from an apreciable distance. You probaby have a better chance of having that happen by using a blender. Look. I'm an engineering student, I've taken E&M. There's no worries about something like that happening with what I'm proposing.
Alright, you're right, I was wrong. (: Now we're both happy?
I'd power a fan! I live in HOT!!! Florida, and would rarely swing out there in that heat!
lol ya, swing to power a fan to cool you from swinging :p
I don't know where you live, but here in NW Florida, it's HOT, and swingin' don't give off much of a breeze!
interesting idea to say the least, grats on making it work =]<br/>
Bike technology is cheap, well understood and adaptable. A rear hub has the one way drive and can be adjusted for the number or size of swingers. There are tons of parts in yard sales, shops, community organizations.
Have'nt read all the comments but I always thought of using one of those exercise bicycles for the same purpose. A contraption such as this, would be smaller and would be possible to use indoors and outdoors as well. This swing idea is fantastic but for some who cannot afford the outdoor space, there should be an indoor alternative. I think I better get cracking on this one.
I didn't read all of the posts, so maybe someone has already made this suggestion. I am assuming that you have come up with a way to waterproof it? As, it would be somewhat ineffective as an outdoor swingset. With that in mind, why not a "security" light of some sort, to illuminate the play area. Perhaps this would draw too much power. I don't know. I am still trying to wrap my noggin around all the differences and interaction of watt, kilowatts, amps, volts, etc.
There exists a mechanism to translate a back-and-forth motion such as a swing into a constant force. It lives in many top-loading washing machines with agitators. You might try using a washing machine transmission between the drive shaft and the generator to double the efficiency of the swing. Dunno if it would work, but you might give it a try!
yes, it is actually a very simple mechanism. But i think that by having it be a one way clutch it works out more advantagiously, in this set up you can stop swinging and it will just freewheel to a stop. If there is a constant linkage, as soon as you jump off, the chain would just get wrapped up by the momentum from the charger/transfer mechanisms.
sorry, I didn't realize it until i hit post, but the one way clutch would still work correctly and there wouldn't be the "winding up" problem that i described above.
things to power ideas: You could put some lights on the swing set so that kids (or adults) could go swinging when it's dark out and have light. Maybe add some batteries or large capacitors so it's not always going on and off. or dimming Could power a music player of some sort so it plays music when swinging. Worlds largest music box? :) you could add a motor to give small pushes to another swing so you could swing a small child or baby. that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
<em>...You could put some lights on the swing set so that kids ... could go swinging when it's dark out and have light...</em><br/>I just have to point out that doing so is a great idea!<br/>
If you wanted to be boring, you could attach it to a rechargeable battery some how. If that doesn't work for some reason, you could put it to the charger it self.
Interesting. Very interesting..... I like it, and possibly a more efficient way is with fixed bars instead of chains. But the swing might not work as well.... Oh well. Me and my ideas.

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