A pocket full of knots.

Traditionally, a knotting board is a large display of the knots a Scout can make. Being large, they became unpopular.

Now, though, spend a few minutes with card, wire and a cigar tin, and you can have a pocket-sized display fit to earn any Cub or Scout that bit extra credit towards a badge.

(You could consider this to be eight Instructables in one, since will also learn how to tie seven different knots. How's that for value?)

Step 1: What you need.

• Most small tins will do for this project, but the best tins are those flat, conveniently pocket-sized tins that hold a handful of slim cigars*.
• Odd lengths of electrical wire. Mains wire is good for this as it gives you a choice of colours, enabling you to tell one part of a knot from another.
• Wire cutters.
• A piece of stiff card.
• Superglue.
• Fine pen for labelling knots.
• Optional: paints to disguise the carcinogenic origins of the tin.

_{*Please remember, folks, all forms of tobacco are very, very bad for you. I in no way condone smoking, but I have a friend who does smoke, and he lets me have his empty tins in exchange for me shutting up about what he is doing to his health.}

Comments

[mtngrown]

I've been in Scouting for about 15 years and never heard this referred to as a "Scout Knot". As a matter of fact, the Boy Scout handbook calls this a square knot. The US Army FM 5-125, Rigging Techniques, Procedures, and Applications calls this knot a square knot (p. 2-7). I'm curious about your use of the "Scout Knot" nomenclature. Care to share the etymology with us?
Great tutorial. I love using the wire to make the knots. The running ends really stand out that way, and you don't have to worry about them moving while you take the pictures. I'm going to employ this technique with our knot board.
~Kevin~

[Kiteman]

It's the knot used on our World Badge.

[frisbeechamp1983]

But still, In the last three editions of the scout handbook, that I know of, it is referred to as the square knot. Your statement of "It is known (incorrectly) as a "square knot" in the US." is false. It's like trying to say Gasoline is known as (incorrectly) as petrol in the UK.

[Kiteman]

Might I point out that the <em>British</em> Scouting Association is the <em>original</em> (and inclusive) Scouting Association?

[frisbeechamp1983]

That's great, but, the British call things differently than us Yanks. I could make a long list of things that the British call "incorrectly" but I won't. They're just different terms, not incorrect.

I mean, just because we calls things differently doesn't mean they're incorrect, just different.

[ThatKnottyguy]

Nice!

[Kiteman]

Thank you.

[avatar_i]

That is a very nice way to show- and remember- how to make those knots.

When I was a kid, I remember an Uncel telling me how to remember the bowline like this:
[Rope held out in front of you, verticle]
Make a loop.
Think of the loop as a hole beneath a tree.
A rabbit comes out of the hole,
The rabbit goes around the three,
The rabbit goes back into the hole,
Voila, a bowline!

[hjjusa]

On the Bowline, when I was a ScoutMaster in Las Cruces NM, I was fooling around with a piece of rope. I tied a slip knot and stuck the loose end through and slipped the knot and Voila, a Bowline. I showed this to another SM and we went round and round about whether it was a Boline or not. Fast forward 10 years I was SM in another town, I was looking through a knot book and ran across the very same knot. It is called an Eskimo Bowline.

[brdavid]

there are 4 types of "Bowlines" but 2 classes! the bowline, the left handed bowline AKA: The Dutch Marine Bowline, The Cowboy Bowline, the Working end of the knot is on the outside of the look where as the working end of the Bowline is on the inside of the loop, all fall in the first class, let us call normal. The second class is harder to explain. the last loop(bright) ties around the working end and not around the standing end of the rope, thus again you will have two versions of this knot, one with the working end inside of the main loop and the other outside of the main loop. here is a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_bowline 

[Kiteman]

It's amazing the number of knots there are. It sometimes seems that almost any tangle of string has a nautical name...

[reddevved]

One of my Scout leaders called it a "Cat's Eye Knot" or something like that before but that might be because I didn't tie it with a loop I tied it with a piece of rope on a pole.

[reddevved]

I tie the "Reef Knot" (in quotes because I'm in the BSA and I know it as a Square Knot) this way. I find it faster and easier to do behind my back (to show off) in competitions.

[ERCCRE123]

didn't bear grylls demonstrate this but he cut the center so it will seperate with slack?

[maniac_maker]

bear grylls used it but cut it.. he used the rope tied off to a tree to rappel down a cliff. BUT, he did not want to just lose the rope, so; he tied a sheep shank and cut the center cord, that way when there was tension, it would hold, but when slack, it would come apart, so the cut allowed him to pull most of the rope down with him.

[Kiteman]

It unfastens with slack anyway - cutting it just wastes rope.

[Cheezpaper]

Isn't this just a clove hitch formed outside of the anchoring object?

[AOGutierrez]

Its a clove hitch with an overhand knot under the crossing. Much more secure and it only becomes tighter as it is worked.

[Kiteman]

Not quite - look at the cross-overs of the finished knot.

[butterfly grower]

I like this. It is easyer to cary than that big bord. I added a taunt line and two half hiches

[Kiteman]

Cool. Got a picture?

[berserk]

I like your idea of a reference box rather than book :-)
Something felt wrong when I saw the sheet bend, so I looked it up on wikipediaWikipedia. I think it's backward, making it much less secure. The loose ends shound both be sticking out on the same side.

[caarntedd]

Greetings beserk (and Kiteman). I know this is an extremely belated reply but I've only just discovered this 'ible due to Kiteman's recent entry into the paracord contest.
The sheet bend is not "much less secure" for having the tails on opposite sides of the knot unless you are using the ropes at close to their maximum load.
If used to join a line to a tarp or something similar it makes no difference as the tarp will rip before the rope breaks. If joining a small rope to a larger one for the purpose of  hauling or securing the larger rope, no difference as the load is not great. If slippage is a problem then use a double bend and/or a stop knot in the tail.
When a knot or bend is placed in a rope the load capacity of the rope is significantly reduced at the point of the knot or bend (by about 20 to 50 percent depending on it's complexity), and even more so if they are incorrectly tied.
The lines need to be aligned for maximum strength and not offset around the area of the knot or bend, because when a load is applied the knot or bend will twist as the ropes pull into line, severely weakening this area. This problem is eliminated by having the tails on the same side.  For uses that have little or no load such as Kiteman's contest entry, tail orientation doesn't matter.

[Kiteman]

It works either way. When used properly, the red line is much thicker than the yellow line, and the tension that locks the cross-over in the yellow part of the knot is provided by the stiffness of the red line.

[neverdrinkoliveoil]

Isn't that an "S" shape?

[Kiteman]

Depends which way you're looking ;-) I said "Z" because the bends are so tight, rather than loose and open like an "S".

[zoltzerino]

Hey Kiteman, I am a member of the UK Scouting movement, but sadly I'm have to leave and move up to the Explorers VERY soon due to my age. My last night at Scouts will be spent skiing on a dry slope a few miles form where I live. I can remember the good old days in the Cubs - we played something called "The Smartie game" a fun, competitive, team game involving the little sugar coated chocolates. One of the things we do at Scouts is "Picking Daisies"; a codename for the alledgedly banned game of "British Bulldogs"... :-D ZZZZ

[Kiteman]

Bulldog isn't banned, as far as I am aware, but it can get risky when you're playing with such a range of sizes as you get with Scouts.

Just because you're moving up to Explorers, that doesn't stop the fun - you can be a Young Leader, work back with the young'uns, teach them all the stuff you've learned.

[xerxesx20]

Excellent idea! To learn and return is a thing of beauty, seldom seen these days!

[zoltzerino]

Well, its not just me moving up it is about half the troop. It was me and a load of mates who joined scouts at the same time, and the numbers were dwindling already ( I can't see http://susg.org lasting much longer, the beavers seem to move up to cubs, but about 90% of the cubs dont move to scouts, so, funding is an issue.)

When me and my mates move up there will only be about 5 consistent members in the scout troop all of whom are newcomers.
I may do the youg leader thing either permanently or as part of mt DofE perhaps.
ZZZZ

[Kiteman]

Time to do some recruiting then - it's St George's Parade on Sunday, phone the local press and invite them to send a photographer over, and mention that you have a few spaces left in the group.

[Kiteman]

_{(Ulverston! I'm from Workington originally)}

[zoltzerino]

Workington!
You know Ulverston?

I won't be at the parade, as I am competing in a bike race event...
I will be a young leader, and there are some Cubs moving up soon thankfully.

ZZZZ

[Kiteman]

I hardly ever went, but I know of it.

_{I've just heard that our Akela can't make it to the parade - it's his mother-in-law's 70th - so it's just me and 24 Cubs...}

[struckbyanarrow]

this is kinda of cool but you should of mentions altoids tins they rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kiteman]

Simple reason: I didn't have an Altoids tin (they're not so common in the UK).

[zoltzerino]

Not so common... meaning they are found in places? Where would you find them in the UK? I haven't found them anywhere. ZZZZ

[Kiteman]

In "corner" sweet shops, and I think I've seen them in either Tescos or Morrisons.

M&S have a similar product, except I think their tins are green.

[zoltzerino]

I've come across the Marks and Sparks ones - they are not all there cracked up to be. ZZZZ

[Lithium Rain]

That's weird, since the curiously strong altoids claim to hail from England! Hmm, want to buy one from me off ebay? :D

[Kiteman]

Oh, they may be English, but they're more often sold in corner shops than supermarkets (for no reason I can see), and then only in the better-stocked shops. Far more popular are Polos and gum.

[bad ass pope]

Don't forget Fisherman's Friend!

[Lithium Rain]

That's weird. It's exactly the opposite here-supermarkets are lousy with them, but the little stores? Forget it.

[zzoe]

Great inst'able, wish i'd written it. Splendid, cool, useful....&c. But what about the rye? You left out the rye.

[Kiteman]

I left out the four-and-twenty blackbirds as well :-D

[zzoe]

I do not 'laugh out loud', but merely smile, wryly.

[unpicky]

great instructable and fantastic pictures! i like the fact that you use different colors of wire

[Kiteman]

Thank you. I "pinched" the colours idea from knot books - they usually use different colours of rope for clarity.

[joejoerowley]

Nice!! Well Done! Is there a boy scout program in the uk? Is it affiliated with the US scouts? Just wondering, thanks

[Kiteman]

Splutter!

The Scouting movement was invented here, one hundred and one years ago.

As early as 1908 Scouting was starting in many of the British outposts of the Empire. After a trip to South America, Scouting started in Chile, and it was already crossing the channel into Europe. The big step across the Atlantic, and into the United States came more by chance. In 1909, an American business man, William Boyce, was lost in the fog of London, when a small boy approached him, and offered to take him to his hotel. Once there, the boy refused any offer of money for the service, saying that it was his good turn as a Boy Scout. Joyce was intrigued by this and tracked down B-P. before he left London to discover more of this. When he got back to the U.S.A. he went about setting up the Boy Scouts of America. By 1918, its numbers had risen to 300,000, and had reached the million mark before the end of the twenties.

[Southpaw_Jim]

Brought up a lot of memories reading that. I had forgot William Boyce's name, but I remembered Lord Baden Powel. Almost 20 years since i learned all of that. I still remember the scout laws, the oath, and of course the motto. I received my Eagle in 1993. Now i am wondering if all the focus on being Politically correct, has caused them to change any of the wording around. Also this makes me wonder, does the European scouts have the same scout Laws? What is the wording difference in their scout Oath? Sorry, thinking out loud, and a little off subject.

[Kiteman]

BP's original oath:

On my honour I promise that---
1. I will do my duty to God and the Queen.
2. I will do my best to help others, whatever it costs me.
3. I know the scout law, and will obey it.

Current UK version:

On my honour, I promise that I will do my best,
To do my duty to God and to the Queen,
To help other people,
And to keep the Scout Law.

Current US version:

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty To God and my country
And to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

BP's original laws:

1. A SCOUT'S HONOUR IS TO BE TRUSTED.
2. A SCOUT IS LOYAL
3. A SCOUT'S DUTY IS TO BE USEFUL AND TO HELP OTHERS.
4. A SCOUT IS A FRIEND TO ALL, AND A BROTHER TO EVERY OTHER SCOUT, NO MATTER TO WHAT SOCIAL CLASS THE OTHER BELONGS.
5. A SCOUT IS COURTEOUS
6. A SCOUT IS A FRIEND TO ANIMALS.
7. A SCOUT OBEYS ORDERS
8. A SCOUT SMILES AND WHISTLES
9. A SCOUT IS THRIFTY

Current UK Scout Law:

1. A Scout is to be trusted.
2. A Scout is loyal.
3. A Scout is friendly and considerate.
4. A Scout belongs to the worldwide family of Scouts.
5. A Scout has courage in all difficulties.
6. A Scout makes good use of time and is careful of possessions and property.
7. A Scout has self-respect and respect for others.

Current US Scout Law:

A Scout is:

1. trustworthy,
2. loyal,
3. helpful,
4. friendly,
5. courteous,
6. kind,
7. obedient,
8. cheerful,
9. thrifty,
10. brave,
11. clean, and
12. reverent.

The wordings may vary, but the meanings are the same.

[unpicky]

i hope you're giving credit where credit is due

[Kiteman]

Huh? For what?

[Southpaw_Jim]

Thank you, and it is good to see the US one hasn't changed since i learned it. Jim

[Ribs]

What you've said there is all mostly correct but you've left out some important details. Scouts was started by Robert Baden-Powel (later to be lord baden powel) Who was in the British army during the Boer war or South African war. During the....... Anglo-boer war the siege of Mafikeng (a town in the north-west province) took place. Baden powel and his british troops where trapped in the town for something around 200 days. During that time BP started using young boys as messengers and for various other tasks because there not enough men to do them and he soon realized how much it benefited the boys and how much they enjoyed it. When BP returned to England he wrote a book called scouting for boys. the reception of this book was quite overwhelming and in a few months there where small scout groups all over England. BP saw this and decided to start a formal scout movement which started with the experimental camp for scouts and guides on brownsea island. The cub movement started quite a bit later when BP realized that the scouting idea may work for younger boys too. So it is not south America but south Africa where scouting actual started. But it is true that scouting did get taken to america by William boyce.

[Kiteman]

You didn't read the extract (which is from the Scouting organisation's own history site) properly - after BP took a trip to South America, South American scouting started in Chile.

The text was not a response to "how did scouting start?", but to "how did scouting start in the USA?"

Click the link and read the whole thing.

The book, by the way, was originally published as a part-work, and it was after only the first 2 or 3 chapters had been published that boys started forming groups. When he discovered this fact, BP altered the focus of later chapters from scouting skills to scouting philosophies (self-discipline and citizenship, for instance).

(Actually you've just inspired me to dig out my 1963 edition of Scouting for Boys and re-read it.)

[Johenix]

There is some evidence that William Boyce (or was it Joyce?) had heard of the Boy Scouts before the lost in the fog incident and had planned to meet Lord Baden-Powell for some time. Like the Salvation Army, the Boy Scout/ Girl Scout movement started in the United Kingdom. We need more Boy Scouts on Wall Street.

[dchall8]

Pretty funny! Every good scout should know where the scouts originated.

[joejoerowley]

Oh! My bad, I didn't know that. Very Interested!! Are you a scout master ?

[Kiteman]

Cub Leader - my pack name is Mang - the bat who brings the night.

[joejoerowley]

Cool! So are cubs the younger group?

[Kiteman]

Nearly - there are now Beavers as well (age 6-8), then Cubs (8-10.5), Scouts (10.5 - 14), Explorers (14-18), then Network up to about 25.

http://www.scouts.org.uk/
http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/

[joejoerowley]

Cool, I am not a scout. In america they won't let anyone with parents that are homosexual join and my parents don't believe thats cool so they won't let me join. (There not gay btw)

[Kiteman]

??!!?? As far as I'm aware, that is not the case. Such discrimination may, in fact, be illegal over here.

[joejoerowley]

Opps, my bad got my facts wrong. It is against scout leader/masters and scouts them selves but most gay parents wouldn't let there kids join. Here is an article on someone experience w/ this problem.

[Kiteman]

Good grief. That's appalling.

Over here, all leaders and most parents have a "CRB" check - that is, their criminal background is examined to check suitability for access to children.

Sexual offences can restrict access to minors, financial irregularities can restrict access to group funds etc.

None of the questions in the check refer to the applicant's sexuality.

I am pretty sure, in fact, that discrimination like that you linked to is in contravention of the European Convention of Human Rights, and the International declaration of Human Rights as well.

_{"Land of the free"?}

[RebelWithoutASauce]

It is actually pretty bad. What happened is back in the 1990's there were gay Scout leaders and Scouts. Then a gay scout leader wanted to include something to teach the scouts about sexuality and he got shot down, he claimed it was because he was gay that they refused.

But people agreed that lessons on sex/sexuality isn't a part of the scouting program so they went along with this. Then slowly this debate started about 'morally straight' in the scout law applying to sexuality. Then they announced that a troop could choose to not accept a gay scout leader. Then this became policy and the council (local and national) members who found this unacceptable stopped participating at that level. So you only had the people who were ok with the prejudice and now they exclude gay leaders altogether and also exclude openly gay scouts.

It is just a mess that snowballed out of control, and now a lot of the government agencies that used to help the scouts for free have to charge them because of anti-discrimination laws.

So the end effect is that scouting in the USA is suffering a lot because of these weird rules that never existed before, and anyone who would have done anything about it gradually became exhausted with the organization and left it.

I was in the BSA and became and Eagle Scout and it's really sad to see this sort of nonsense undermine what is otherwise a really great organization.

[joejoerowley]

No Joke about the "land of the free". That saying has lost all of its meaning it should be "Land of the free, if you are Caucasian and heterosexual"

[chardster]

No, it should be, "Land of the free, if you are caucasian and heterosexual, with a penis...

[zzoe]

"Land of the free, if you are caucasian and heterosexual, with a penis, and not poor or migrant..."

[chardster]

this could go on for ages. haha onion is hilarious :)

[w00ty32]

Sad, america is. Why can't they be like the military..... "dont ask, don't tell".

[joejoerowley]

That reminds me of a great onion video. :)

[idiotjohn]

lol

[Khaos11]

+1

NICE

[Kiteman]

+1? Could I scrounge a click on the Vote button as well?

[Khaos11]

that's what i meant

[Kiteman]

Cool, thank you.

[rhondalicious]

This is FANTASTIC! I'm a Cub Scout leader, and I totally need to do something like this with my boys - the last group I did knots with, they struggled with some tricky bits while tying - I'm betting that using wire will make it much easier, since it won't slide around on them as they are trying to figure things out. Now I just need to think of a box - I don't think anyone I know smokes cigars...

[Kiteman]

It doesn't have to be a cigar box - you could glue a lot of matchbox trays side-by-side and put a knot in each box.

[rhondalicious]

Hmm, that could work too - I'm even thinking an Altoids tin might work, since I think my boys only need to learn small sized knots - depends on how dexterous their fingers are!

[Kiteman]

_{Oh, and any chance of a vote?}

[rhondalicious]

Ooh, sure! I didn't even notice the big vote button at the top until you mentioned it!

[lawizeg]

Nice one, yet again, kiteman! I love your instructables!

[DGerman]

Use of 2 colors is great. +1 I have a bag of 3' soft white nylon 1/2" ropes with 1/2 of the length painted black. Useful for bowline too. "Pedro knows"

[DELETED_craz meanman]

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[Kiteman]

One for the actual tin as well.

7 knots + 1 display idea = 8 'ibles. Best value in the whole contest, never mind the quality, feel the width...

[nerdnurture]

Cool! This is small enough to actually bring it with you to a place where a person might need it!

[technick29]

+1 because I wanted to learn how to do more knots. :D

[Kiteman]

Any chance of a vote as well?

[technick29]

Already done my friend. I know how it feels to be in a competition.. ; )

[Thornburg]

Kiteman, you some amazing instructables. Voted for you, and hope you win something. Creative title, and work. Thorn

[ARIrish]

This one gets a fave, and then just as soon as I pool some cash I'm going to make a desk-sized version with rope. About the best I can manage so far is to tie my shoes :)

[its a lion]

Nice iBle. I guess I'm in the minority of having heard of and learned to tie the half hitch from my dad. We had a small boat that he would use half hitches to tie it in the truck with. Granted, I was in the scouts, but I had learned it before then. You get my vote (I'm only voting for one person this time, so don't worry).

[Kiteman]

:-D

[zorro3355]

this could help us scout pass scout standed

[Sandisk1duo]

nice

[robmannn]

Very good Instructable. BP would be proud of you. Very resourceful and keen. I'll get my troop on to this. Knots are and fascinating and therapeutic endeavor. Thanks

[sdallesasse]

Great way to show knots! I like the idea of the wire, makes them more permanent. Try doing this with different types of weaving / braiding.

[SWV1787]

from an eagle scout great work and nice idea, you would have my vote for the pocket contest.

[Kiteman]

Thank you!

[FireandIcebike]

You might add pipefitters to the list of people who use this, though I always end up using a clove hitch and two half hitches.

[surfreak]

We always called it a girth hitch climbing, but kiters seem to like lark's head.

[dchall8]

Finally, a good Instructable on knots. I was just thinking the other day that there should be better knot Instructables. I even toyed with some ideas to make one. Your presentation is much better than I was thinking. Great Job! I'm going to vote for you but I doubt you'll get enough popular appeal to win a shirt.

[Kiteman]

Maybe, but there's a different judging system this time.

[shepard1]

An old U.S. Army Green Beret who is a Scout Master and taught my troop how to repel and belay once said to me, if you want to know a knot practice it 6 times a day for 6 days. Do it while you are sitting around the camp fire, or at home while watching TV. After awhile you will be tying the knot without looking. Now when I am in my Scout uniform I have about a six foot length of line, so when someone asks how to tye a knot I can show them. When teaching someone else to tye stand behind them and reach around (kind of so that your hands are theirs)and tye the knot . this way they see how it is to be tyed in the correct direction, and not backwards. This happened to me and for the longest time I was tying the Bowline backwards. Today I have the 8 Basic Boy Scout knots down cold, but I have moved on to more interesting knots. Thanks for a wonderful Instructable.

[Rob K]

+1 I'm still do scoutiing at 20, but I'm now in a venture crew that does scuba diving mostly. I use a bowline and a taut-line hitch to hold my bed together in the dorm. The headboard is falling apart.

[1up]

Wow! I have so much to say about this Instructable! First of all, very nice Instructable! Great explanations, it can be very hard to describe knots using only words, yet I knew exactly how to do the Bowline just by reading your instructions. Lots of useful knots! The only ones I really knew before reading this Instructable were the Lark's Head Hitch and the Reef Knot. You learn something new everyday. ;-) Great idea, using the cigar tin to display them. It was just the right size, and it looks really nice. Overall, awesome Instructable, learned some sweet new knots, and actually had a good time reading it. +1 rating and favorited so I can look at the knots later. :D You've done it again, Kiteman!

[1up]

Oh yeah, I voted for it, too! :D

[origamimavin]

wow, this is very nice. i like the idea of using wire to tie the knots instead of rope to show how. i don't need to know knots for everyday use, so i won't be making on to carry around, but i think i will make one for my workbench or just to have. nice work!

[LinuxH4x0r]

Cool! A little bulky, but very useful.

[Kiteman]

It fits nicely in my uniform shirt pocket.

[LinuxH4x0r]

Not in my crowded pockets!

[Doveman]

The Bowline is accually a res-q knot,used to tye around yourself if you are stuck in a ditch or somewhere like that. You can also run the tag end of rope (i.e. the other end of rope not affliated witht the knot) and run it thru the loop and you have a snare. My favorite knot is the bowline =D

[Drew-Oz]

joejoerowley: The scouting movement was started by a Brit (Baden Powell) and was for at least the first half of the 20thC the very embodiment of everything good about Britain. Baden Powell House (the global centre of the scouting movement) is in Knightsbridge, London - look it up. Better still, Google it - save yourself a Tube fare. Also, on a general note about knots, the best way to learn how to tie knots is to practise them regularly. OK, simple you may think, but knowledge keeps like fish so if you don't tie knots on a daily basis, it can be difficult to recall how to tie a particular knot when you need to. One way to overcome this is of course to carrying around a Pocket-full-of-knots to jog you memory a bit. But failing that, another solution is to carry around a short piece of string in your pocket. The idea is that whenever you have a moment to yourself (waiting for a train, stuck in traffic, walking to the shops etc), take the piece of string out and practise tying a knot over and over again for a while. Practise one knot at a time until you have mastered it, then move on to the next knot on your list. By using this method you will find you have mastered a whole host of knots over a short period of time. So whenever comes the time you actually do need to tie a knot, you can do it automatically. A very experienced skipper on a yacht I crewed on taught me this method - it worked a treat for me! Oh, and great Instructable kiteman. Love yer work!

[KentsOkay]

Cool!

[alvincredible]

lol "pocket full of knots" this one made me laugh

[Kiteman]

Really? How so?

[Gjdj3]

Very cool and well done. +1 !

[xtank5]

Well done!! And yay I learned a few knots!! +1

[GorillazMiko]

Great job Kiteman! You always post great stuff. I better get to work to post a couple of Instructables for this contest... +1 vote.

[xboxteen01]

nice instructable. +1 vote