AA Battery Powered "Tesla Coil"

 by JoeBeau
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Step 5: Flyback Transformer

This is easily the most time consuming and tedious part of the build. While many other people might rewind their own primary coils on the flyback, I prefer to use the ones already available, since they are already nicely potted in the flyback. Unlike most flyback driver circuits, which use a primary and feedback coil, this just uses one primary coil. To find the primary coil, its down to trial and error. Using a multimeter, measure the resistance across each pair of pins. I find that in a majority of flybacks, the primary coils (as there are usually more than one) are situated so that their inputs are next to each other. That being said, this is not always the case. As you measure across each set of pins, take note of their resistances, as the one with the lowest resistance has the fewer number of coils. This is the one we are after. However, make sure that this is an independent coil, and that there isn't a third pin connected to it. Once this coil is located, the secondary coil needs to be located. Part of this is already done, since one "pin" is the fat (usually red) wire that comes out of the top of the transformer and has a suction cup on the end. The method for locating the second pin is relatively crude. Connect a 9 volt battery to one of the primary coil pins with an alligator clip, and to the other primary coil pin, connect an alligator clip. Don't connect this alligator clip to the battery yet. Take fat the red wire, and with the suction cup removed and the end stripped, place it close to one of the unused pins. Tap the disconnected terminal of the battery with the loose alligator clip, and look for a spark between the wire and pin. If there is none, move it closer and try again. If there is still no spark, move onto the next pin. If the wire doesn't spark to any of the pins, reverse the polarity of the battery and try the whole process again. Eventually, you will come across the pin you are looking for. Before disconnecting the battery from the flyback, take note of the polarity of the primary coil pins. If you are using one of the new flybacks, the polarity is important, since they contain a rectifier and voltage multiplier circuit. Once the primary coil is located, solder two long wires to it, and to the pin that the fat red wire sparks to, solder another wire. Then, just to be safe, pot the pins in hot glue. Make sure to use plenty of glue, and fill all gaps and spaces. This prevents unwanted arcing. Once this is done, the coil is all set. 
 
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MadGuitarist says: Jan 19, 2013. 8:04 AM
thanks joe for solving my problem and concerns , but ive got anothe prob here ive bought a bigger flyback from my local electronic repair shop the guy tlod me that it was removed from old TV but it is giving smaller sparks can you tell me why is it so?
JoeBeau (author) in reply to MadGuitaristJan 30, 2013. 3:49 AM
Is it a rectified type or unrectified? The old flybacks have just a pancake coil on them, with no rectifier circuit. The rectifier circuit of modern flybacks also have a voltage multiplier in them, which can give you longer sparks. That being said, if you build a ZVS type flyback driver you want the unrectified type because then you can run it at higher power without destroying the rectifier circuit.
I would check to make sure you are running it at the proper polarity, if it is rectified, as well as making sure you are using one of the lowest resistance coils.
MadGuitarist in reply to JoeBeauFeb 1, 2013. 8:34 AM
i dont know but looks like the same one as the one you shown in the picture
MadGuitarist says: Nov 23, 2012. 8:31 PM
hey joe ur project is awesome i have also made it i had removed the core of the flyback and the discharges were more longer than then ones when the core is attached & do u have any suggestions that how can i get more larger sparks when one end of secondary coil is grounded
JoeBeau (author) in reply to MadGuitaristDec 5, 2012. 10:09 AM
Winding your own turns on the transformer could increase the output spark lengths, potentially. Coupling will be a problem, however, unless you continue to use the core. With the core removed, there is a potential to be able to tune the circuit to operate at a resonant frequency, similar to a true tesla coil. This is why you are probably getting longer sparks. Playing around with the capacitance value could be used to tune the circuit, and this would then allow the circuit to behave more like a traditional tesla coil.
croseman says: Jul 17, 2011. 12:30 AM
Can you use a Microwave Oven transformer?(MOT)
JoeBeau (author) in reply to crosemanJul 18, 2011. 4:28 AM
I haven't tried it, but it would seem that any step-up transformer can be used in place of the flyback. But the flyback would work better since it steps the voltage up higher.
The Lightning Stalker says: Jul 7, 2011. 2:09 PM
RTV silicone makes the best HV potting.
JoeBeau (author) in reply to The Lightning StalkerJul 7, 2011. 5:01 PM
I know hot glue is faaar from ideal, but i wanted to make this as cheap as possible. i had plenty of hot glue, so i went that route. In the future though, if i am to build anything more powerful, i would definitely agree with you and get some real potting compound
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