ATX to Lab Bench Power Supply Conversion

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by mat_the_w
 

introATX to Lab Bench Power Supply Conversion

In my sophomore year of college at the University of Minnesota, I started into my main electronics classes, and needed a good power supply for working on lab projects at home. My roommate Adam told me about somebody online who had converted an ATX computer power supply into a lab bench power supply, so I decided to do the same thing. You can also check out this link for a very similar guide by their user Abizarl . I have also documented this project on my website at http://www.mbeckler.org/powersupply/ if you are interested.

Warning! There are several large capacitors in ATX power supplies, that will store a dangerous charge for a long time. Please let your power supply discharge, completely unplugged from the wall outlet, for a few days before opening it up. You can probably be seriously hurt, so please be very careful. I am not a lawyer, but I hereby release myself from as much liability as I can, for any sort of injury you sustain, or any trouble you get into.
ATX to Lab Bench Power Supply Conversion
 
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step 1Background

First, a bit of background on a typical ATX power supply:

Computer power supplies are Switch Mode Power Supplies (SMPS) , which use high-frequency switching circuit elements to provide a high-quality output voltage, with good energy efficiency. One side effect of this technology is the minimum load requirement that each power supply has. In order to function properly, the power supply needs at least a very small electrical load connected to it. In other words, ATX power supplies will only work if you have something connected to it. We will be using a power resistor to provide this minimum load.

Also, modern power supplies do not simply have an OFF/ON switch, they have what is known as a "soft" power switch. This normally makes no difference to the user, as the computer behaves the same, but when you shutdown your computer, the motherboard can turn off the power supply when it has finished shutting down. This requires us to add our own power switch to the power supply chassis.

To protect our circuit from accidental (and careless!) short circuits, we will install some fuse-holders and fuses, which will disconnect the circuit supply lines if too much current flows. The size of the fuses are up to you, but a 1 amp fuse will work just fine for most circuits. You really should put fuses on all supply lines.

Update: While the diagrams show fuses on all voltage rails and no fuse on the ground line, when I actually built my power supply, I was young and foolish and only put a fuse on the ground wire. It's much safer and a better idea to put fuses on all signal lines and not the ground line. Thanks to many emails and messages on Instructables about this oversight.
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Nov 30, 2009. 5:42 AMtimbont says:
Hi, I have built the same, but what stops the supply tripping or resetting itself when turning on from power user? eg: I run a 12v dc fridge 4.5amp and after fridge has reached temp it turns compressor off, when restarting the compressor it trips the power supply and I have to manualy start it again.
I understand the earler AT box did not do this but am unable to get the full 12v.

Tim
Aug 26, 2010. 3:38 PMtank1357 says:
The reason the supply shuts off when the motor kicks on is because the supply has short circuit detection. What this means is that if it senses a large current spike, it will turn off in an effort to protect itself and the circuitry it supplies. Unfortunately, there are not many ways to get around this, as most large motors sometimes need a moderately large amount of current to get them started. This is because sometimes you have to clear a tiny spark gap inside the motor, because the motor may have stopped with its windings in poor contact. One of the only serviceable ways around this is to attach a large-ish capacitor across the terminals of the motor. It doesn't have to be done in a sexy way, just solder it right on to the two terminals. This should help with some of the issues. NOTE: motors and other coiled devices (such as relays) also throw around a lot of nasty EMF when discharged that will easily damage or destroy sensitive devices, like transistors. For instance, I once had a relay controlled by a BJT, and it worked fine for awhile, but after only maybe 50 or so on/off transitions, the transistor no longer worked properly. A way to protect against this is by using a diode arranged across the coiled device so that it is normally not conducting, but if the discharge of the coil is larger than the power supply, it'll back-conduct the spike through the coil again, treating it like a resistor, dissipating the spike until it is harmless. Of course, its hard to find diodes beefy enough to preform this duty in larger power-applications (such as your compressor motor), so in place of the diode, two capacitors in parallel (one big and one small) will suffice.
Aug 18, 2010. 3:42 AMhecxz says:
Great instructable mat_the_w, you have inspired me to make my own variation. I was just wondering how one would be able to determine if a power resistor as you mentioned would be needed on the +3.3v output. And why it's not mentioned to be required on the +12v or -12v. Your input would be greatly appreciated, since you have the experience. Thank you.
Aug 10, 2010. 7:40 AMVick Jr says:
I noticed that the switch connects the green (sense) wire to ground. Doesn't this mean that the power supply is still "on", wasting electricity, but isn't providing any power? Would it be a better idea to use the existing power switch on the back (or to move that switch somewhere more convenient) to turn it off?

Also, I have two PSUs and want to keep one as a backup for my pc. One of them is 250W and came from my old pc, so I know it works perfectly. The other is 300W (PS-PR+P4-300X, PREMIER, ATX POWER SUPPLY 300 WATT), but I got it from dumpster diving and there's some red stuff coming out of some of the capacitors (I assume that's bad). As far as I know, they both work though. I connected the greedn to ground and they both powered a small motor) Which would be better (and safer) to keep as a backup and which should I use for this project?
Apr 7, 2010. 7:10 PMsempercog says:
I'm making one of these, a little differently because I have to put the connectors in a separate box (the power supply I'm using is very small).

None of the plans I see online use the 3.3v, is there a reason for this, or can I use it without problems if I want?

Also, some show one wire of each color connected to the post, and some say connect them all.  After installing the resistor I have 11 ground wires and half a dozen of each of the voltage wires.  Should all really be connected?

Thanks for this project,
Semper Cogitant
Apr 8, 2010. 5:30 PMsempercog says:
Well, finished building it, think I have the wiring right after testing tracing the wires several times.  The standby LED is on when plugged in, but the power LED goes on and off when it's turned on and there is only like two volts on the 12 volt post, and barely anything on the 5v post.  I have a gray wire that is apparently supposed to be connected to either 3.3 or 5v, tried both and without it being connected and no difference.  Also the fan doesn't come on at all.
May 4, 2010. 4:15 PMsempercog says:
OK, took some time doing something else, then came back to this project.  I guess it was a bad power supply because I retried everything and it still didn't work.  Then I tried it with another, slightly newer, power supply and it works great. 

I used a lighted switch instead of a separate LED, and I put the connectors and fuses in a little project box on top of the unit because it's a pretty cramped space inside.

Thanks for the great article.
Jul 29, 2010. 9:39 AMtahoetomahawk says:
Hi, I'm also trying to add a lighted switch but the only ones I can find are 12v. Did you use a 12v? If so, how did you wire it up to get enough power but still short the PSU green wire to ground to get it to turn on? Thanks!
Jul 29, 2010. 2:15 PMsempercog says:
I used a 12v lighted switch from the parts bin at Radio Shack, just the green wire on one end and a black on the other. Perhaps not perfect, but it works, the switch lights up, but not very brightly. The pictures aren't very good, and the garage is a disaster, but you can see here what I did.
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Apr 9, 2010. 1:04 PMsempercog says:
Yeah, used a power resistor as described, on 5v, 3.3v and on both.  As for it working in a computer, it was once, but that was years ago.  Guess I tinker with it a while longer, then try it with a different unit.  That at least will prove it the problem is with the power supply, or with my work.
Jun 22, 2010. 12:46 PMhitachi8 says:
guy just a question , i made a Benchtop power supply ( almost finiched ) and i didn't put any resistor on the 5volt rail ...( i didn't use the 5volt ) the power supply run fine and everything seems to work ... is that normal ? Do i realy need to put a R on the 5volt ? ( i am using an old power supply : pentium 2 or lower
Jun 23, 2010. 7:34 AMhitachi8 says:
My output voltage move ( when i plug or unplug something ), but just a little bit . like .4volt ... but for my need , i dont realy need a constant 12volt so ... Also , i put my fuse( 220volt 1amp) on one of the 110volt Input Wire . is that O.K ? Thank you for helping people , it is realy nice .
Jun 27, 2010. 7:09 AMpurpulhaze says:
Possibly would be better to add separate fuses for use with different projects needing more or less current.
Jul 24, 2010. 5:11 AMArchive555 says:
Yeah, especially since most of the different power lines (3.3V, 5V, 12V) each have different load ratings. I know, for example, that mine has a maximum of 18A output for the +12V line, but yours might be different, although it will probably say on the side of the PSU. If not, look up the specs of yours online.
Jul 11, 2010. 9:01 AMamando96 says:
I tried this in 2006, got a shock and blanked out, woke up today.
Jul 24, 2010. 5:05 AMArchive555 says:
So did you finish it?
Jun 4, 2010. 8:57 PMpurpulhaze says:
Can anyone suggest fuse ratings for the output lines?
Jul 8, 2010. 7:17 PMjimtran93 says:
some people say 1 Amp is ok, i would just go with a 5 Amp though. it really does depend on your power supply limitations and what your going to use it for
Apr 18, 2010. 2:03 PMmaclover201 says:
 This tutorial worked awesome for me. I didn't need the huge resistor though.
Jul 8, 2010. 7:20 PMjimtran93 says:
Same with me, and it is a new ATX power supply. It must just really depend on the type you get.
Jul 13, 2009. 10:45 PMkhr1stian says:
Does anyone know of a way to disable the short circuit protection? I am using mine to power a jacob's ladder / plasma speaker, and it really is quite annoying having my psu randomly shut off on me.
Dec 18, 2009. 4:22 PMshadowdude77 says:
Ugh, that's a shame, I was gonna use mine to power a flyback for a plasma speaker as well. How often does it shut off? There must be a way to disable short circuit protection, and I can't imagine it's a complicated procedure.
Jun 27, 2010. 2:02 PMhitachi8 says:
yeah , you can put something like a fake load , on the PSU ... like a Resistor , a little light ...
Apr 21, 2010. 10:34 AMpcline2 says:
i was looking at the circuit and was wondering if the resistor is connected to the cathode or anode of the LED. otherwise a nice 'able
Apr 22, 2010. 3:11 PMpcline2 says:
Thanks for the response. i was wondering about the value of the resistor, it seem a bit high to me.  were your LED's a different voltage than the standard 2 v for red LEDs. just a question
Apr 2, 2010. 2:24 PMthinkerer says:
I have very little experience with electronic devices so my question may seem naive.  I built a bench top power supply like this and when I shut it off the LED flickers and slowly sputters out.  Since there is + and - 12 and 5 volts the AC input must be full wave rectified.  If I use the +12 volt wire to connect a coil is this pulsed DC? 
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